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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 1:31 pm
houndawg wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:34 am

I guess since he doesn't vote he doesn't understand the procedure - but its possible he's just that dim
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I’ve given you ample opportunity to connect the dots Mr Christmas…. Your reply totally ignores what’s going on and illustrates you’re living in the past

Visit a NYC DMV lately ?
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houndawg wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:52 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 1:31 pm

:ohno:

I’ve given you ample opportunity to connect the dots Mr Christmas…. Your reply totally ignores what’s going on and illustrates you’re living in the past

Visit a NYC DMV lately ?
Haven't been to NYC since a gig 25 years ago on A Praire Home Companion. Had a great time and the people were very friendly, not at all like their stereotype.
CH says Hound is living in the past

Hound replies and says he went to NYC 25 years ago ….totally oblivious that NYC has changed

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:32 am
houndawg wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:52 am

Haven't been to NYC since a gig 25 years ago on A Praire Home Companion. Had a great time and the people were very friendly, not at all like their stereotype.
CH says Hound is living in the past

Hound replies and says he went to NYC 25 years ago ….totally oblivious that NYC has changed

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CH asks if I've been to NYC recently. I answer.

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Interesting facts. Spin away.
Key Findings
Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local governments.

Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of $8,889 per person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented immigrants who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional tax revenue.

More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants go toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs that these workers are barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7 billion in Social Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion in unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.
At the state and local levels, slightly less than half (46 percent, or $15.1 billion) of the tax payments made by undocumented immigrants are through sales and excise taxes levied on their purchases. Most other payments are made through property taxes, such as those levied on homeowners and renters (31 percent, or $10.4 billion), or through personal and business income taxes (21 percent, or $7.0 billion).

Six states raised more than $1 billion each in tax revenue from undocumented immigrants living within their borders. Those states are California ($8.5 billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New York ($3.1 billion), Florida ($1.8 billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion), and New Jersey ($1.3 billion).

In a large majority of states (40), undocumented immigrants pay higher state and local tax rates than the top 1 percent of households living within their borders.

Income tax payments by undocumented immigrants are affected by laws that require them to pay more than otherwise similarly situated U.S. citizens. Undocumented immigrants are often barred from receiving meaningful tax credits and sometimes do not claim refunds they are owed due to lack of awareness, concern about their immigration status, or insufficient access to tax preparation assistance.
Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase. Under a scenario where work authorization is provided to all current undocumented immigrants, their tax contributions would rise by $40.2 billion per year to $136.9 billion. Most of the new revenue raised in this scenario ($33.1 billion) would flow to the federal government while the remainder ($7.1 billion) would flow to states and localities.
https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
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kalm wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:10 am Interesting facts. Spin away.
Key Findings
Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local governments.

Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of $8,889 per person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented immigrants who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional tax revenue.

More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants go toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs that these workers are barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7 billion in Social Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion in unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.
At the state and local levels, slightly less than half (46 percent, or $15.1 billion) of the tax payments made by undocumented immigrants are through sales and excise taxes levied on their purchases. Most other payments are made through property taxes, such as those levied on homeowners and renters (31 percent, or $10.4 billion), or through personal and business income taxes (21 percent, or $7.0 billion).

Six states raised more than $1 billion each in tax revenue from undocumented immigrants living within their borders. Those states are California ($8.5 billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New York ($3.1 billion), Florida ($1.8 billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion), and New Jersey ($1.3 billion).

In a large majority of states (40), undocumented immigrants pay higher state and local tax rates than the top 1 percent of households living within their borders.

Income tax payments by undocumented immigrants are affected by laws that require them to pay more than otherwise similarly situated U.S. citizens. Undocumented immigrants are often barred from receiving meaningful tax credits and sometimes do not claim refunds they are owed due to lack of awareness, concern about their immigration status, or insufficient access to tax preparation assistance.
Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase. Under a scenario where work authorization is provided to all current undocumented immigrants, their tax contributions would rise by $40.2 billion per year to $136.9 billion. Most of the new revenue raised in this scenario ($33.1 billion) would flow to the federal government while the remainder ($7.1 billion) would flow to states and localities.
https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
Not facts. Skimmed after 1st sentence because there’s no such thing as ‘undocumented immigrants’ which is used about 10x in the article As far as that 96.7 billion in the 1st sentence lol:

(Nov 2023):
Border Crisis Costs American Taxpayers $451 Billion Annually

In a 49-page report released Monday, the House Committee on Homeland Security found that nearly half a trillion dollars is being lost in the healthcare, law enforcement, education, housing, and other sectors due to an influx of illegal immigration in the past two years. The $451 billion figure takes into account the millions of illegal migrants released by Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas’s Department of Homeland Security, as well as 1.7 million so-called gotaways, the Center for Immigration Studies revealed in May.

“Only a small fraction is ever recouped from the taxes paid by illegal aliens, with the rest falling on the shoulders of American citizens and lawful residents,” it adds”…..

….Anywhere between 16.8 million and 29 million illegal aliens currently live in the U.S., according to data provided by the Federation for American Immigration Reform and Yale University. Since President Joe Biden assumed office in January 2021, at least 3.8 million illegal aliens have entered the country…”
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/bor ... rt-claims/

You don’t need a report to tell you this. Just listen to the officials in democrat sanctuary cities all iver the country. Simple: If illegal aliens overall were good for the economy, you wouldn’t have sanctuary cities all over the country complaining about illegal aliens draining their coffers to the tune of tems of billions a year.. Ex NYC alone is claiming illegals are costing them 4-5 BILLIION annually. NYC is getting more illegals than any other city, but they are only getting a fraction of the overall total.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:37 am
We are just starting to learn of the magnitude of what they did, and how they did it.

Poor Mayor Adams who spoke the truth about Jojos migrant invasion and how it potentially could destroy NYC for a generation and what happened to the Mayor? he was indicted for stuff they knew about long ago and were just waiting for him to get out of line.... power and control

good grief the USA is all fucked up and if Gypsey Curses wins, at least I still have the playa. If youre living in a Banana Republic, it needs to come with all the charms of one as well.... :lol:
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:05 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:37 am
We are just starting to learn of the magnitude of what they did, and how they did it.

Poor Mayor Adams who spoke the truth about Jojos migrant invasion and how it potentially could destroy NYC for a generation and what happened to the Mayor? he was indicted for stuff they knew about long ago and were just waiting for him to get out of line.... power and control

good grief the USA is all fucked up and if Gypsey Curses wins, at least I still have the playa. If youre living in a Banana Republic, it needs to come with all the charms of one as well.... :lol:
another Biden wrong is righted

DOJ officials plan to move to dismiss Adams’ corruption case, at least temporarily — a prospect that arose after months of the mayor cozying up to Trump.

The letter announcing the move contended that Adams’ charges could be politically motivated because of his past criticism of the Biden administration’s actions on the US-Mexico border and the ensuing migrant crisis.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:20 am
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:19 am Woke sanctuary cities also have huge homeless problems.

Asylum seekers are at least going through a legal process.

Bigger view: border security and immigration are every state’s problem. But it will require more funding and bigger government (not just border patrol, but processing and expediting the citizenship process) to truly solve.

This purely political stunt not withstanding.
If what the governors are doing is a political stunt what was Biden opening the borders?
a) a political stunt
2) a dereliction of duty
III) gross incompetence
d) all of the above

Because despite posturing, it sure as sh!t wasn't a humanitarian gesture.
here we have an example of before

any recent post by 88 is an example of after

Nurse Ratchet would be very interested on when and how he went nutz :lol:
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:39 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:20 am
If what the governors are doing is a political stunt what was Biden opening the borders?
a) a political stunt
2) a dereliction of duty
III) gross incompetence
d) all of the above

Because despite posturing, it sure as sh!t wasn't a humanitarian gesture.
here we have an example of before

any recent post by 88 is an example of after

Nurse Ratchet would be very interested on when and how he went nutz :lol:
It's completely rational to be critical of trump and biden. Nutz is falling for eithers' grift and believing that person is looking out for the peoples' best interests.

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:39 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:20 am

If what the governors are doing is a political stunt what was Biden opening the borders?
a) a political stunt
2) a dereliction of duty
III) gross incompetence
d) all of the above

Because despite posturing, it sure as sh!t wasn't a humanitarian gesture.
here we have an example of before

any recent post by 88 is an example of after

Nurse Ratchet would be very interested on when and how he went nutz :lol:
Yep, only an anti American tool would not want what Trump is selling. Crime is already down in Chicago and its only going to get better the more we deport.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:34 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:05 am

We are just starting to learn of the magnitude of what they did, and how they did it.

Poor Mayor Adams who spoke the truth about Jojos migrant invasion and how it potentially could destroy NYC for a generation and what happened to the Mayor? he was indicted for stuff they knew about long ago and were just waiting for him to get out of line.... power and control

good grief the USA is all fucked up and if Gypsey Curses wins, at least I still have the playa. If youre living in a Banana Republic, it needs to come with all the charms of one as well.... :lol:
another Biden wrong is righted

DOJ officials plan to move to dismiss Adams’ corruption case, at least temporarily — a prospect that arose after months of the mayor cozying up to Trump.

The letter announcing the move contended that Adams’ charges could be politically motivated because of his past criticism of the Biden administration’s actions on the US-Mexico border and the ensuing migrant crisis.
Already paying dividends…
NYC Mayor Eric Adams promises to reopen ICE office on Rikers Island after meeting with Trump border czar
Adams said an executive order was being prepared to let ICE agents resume their work in the jail complex

Adams said the pair discussed how to combat violent migrant gangs and embedding more New York Police Department officers into federal task forces.

Unlike many blue city mayors, Adams has expressed interest in working with the Trump administration to crack down on illegal immigration in an effort to combat crime.

He noted that New York shouldered a larger number of migrants transported to blue cities from the southern border.

"New York City has been forced to shoulder the burden of a national humanitarian crisis where more than 230,000 migrants have come to our city seeking support, at a cost of approximately $7 billion, with little help from the previous administration," Adams said.

"That is why I have been clear that I want to work with the new federal administration, not war with them, to find common ground and make better the lives of New Yorkers," he added…..
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nyc-ma ... order-czar
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Jobozo America hating think tank: how can we destroy Americas greatest city?

Biden: “Watch me”

“Pam Bondi said Wednesday the Department of Justice had filed charges against the state of New York, Gov. Kathy Hochul, state Attorney General Letitia James and Marc Schroeder, the commissioner of the state's Department of Motor Vehicles.

"This is a new DOJ, and we are taking steps to protect Americans...New York has chosen to prioritize illegal aliens over American citizens. It stops today," Bondi said. "As you know, we sued Illinois, and New York didn't listen. So now, you're next."
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That’s 4 years Obama 2nd term, 4 years Trump 1, 3.75 years. Biden:
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I am waiting for the stories about the Border Patrol "whipping" Illegals and all the human rights angles that should be coming along soon. The lame stream medias playbook is old and worn out.

If they didn't want to be whipped, they should have stayed on their own side
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