Hey!Skjellyfetti wrote:About as well as the "Kraken" lawsuit
look who slinked (slunk?) back in with a comment on conspiracy theories!
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Hey!Skjellyfetti wrote:About as well as the "Kraken" lawsuit
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/13/us/p ... hodes.htmlStewart Rhodes, the leader and founder of the far-right Oath Keepers militia, was arrested on Thursday and charged along with 10 others with seditious conspiracy over what prosecutors said was their wide-ranging plot to storm the Capitol on Jan. 6 last year and disrupt the certification of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s electoral victory.
The arrest of Mr. Rhodes, 56, was a major development in the sprawling investigation of the Capitol attack. He and the other Oath Keepers are the first to be charged with sedition among the more than 700 people accused so far of taking part in the assault.
Mr. Rhodes was arrested shortly before 1 p.m. at his home in Granbury, Texas, his lawyer, Jonathon Moseley, said.
The Justice Department has brought a variety of charges in connection with the Capitol attack; it has prosecuted about 275 people for obstructing Congress’s duty to certify the 2020 presidential vote count, for example. But it had not previously brought a sedition charge, with the legal weight and political overtones it carries about an election in a highly polarized country.
The charge of seditious conspiracy, which can be difficult to prove, requires prosecutors to show that at least two people agreed to use force to overthrow government authority or delay the execution of a U.S. law. It carries a maximum of sentence of 20 years in prison.
I forgot all about them.
Sarasota's Cyber Ninjas, the inexperienced firm that drew national attention after being picked to audit presidential ballots in Arizona, has dissolved after a disastrous week, its CEO told the Sarasota Herald-Tribune.
Sounds good on paper. But MAGA is the Republican Party and that won't change unless Trump croaks before November '24.CID1990 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:42 amIt used to be Dems all across the board that had the attitude that they could never lose on policy .. only if the other side cheats. They are still uniformly that way.Ibanez wrote: It will be " Stop the Steal: Blue Edition" for sure. The loud mouths and so called "progressives" can't fathom that there are more people like them. They'll call it a return to the 3rd Reich and any other asinine, hyperbolic analogies they can make.
MAGA adopted that same playbook which is why they need to be squashed right along with the Dems.
The best way to do that is to run the way Youngkin did in Virginia. Don’t pander to MAGA but appeal to them on common policy concerns. Don’t be a rhetorical bomb thrower and don’t respond to the same (the way Nancy Mace does). Act like an adult, be a fiscal conservative, and even moderate Dems will vote for that candidate given their bench.
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Slings. Easy to make, easy to conceal. Seen shepherd kids in Morocco that can put a rock in your pocket from 50 yards.kalm wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:45 amI think there’s some truth here. The left might hate the establishment Dems as much as they hate the R’s. Both parties appear to be in a state of civil war.Winterborn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:48 am
Nope. Pretty much a slam dunk and after the promises they made to their constituents, it is going to be very messy.
Looking past the 2020 elections, their actions (and reactions) are going to setting the tone for the party down the road. (Exactly like it has been for the R's).
I also bet quality throwing rock and Molotov bottle sales will be through the roof!![]()
^^The illusory truth effect on full display.houndawg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:38 amSounds good on paper. But MAGA is the Republican Party and that won't change unless Trump croaks before November '24.CID1990 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:42 am
It used to be Dems all across the board that had the attitude that they could never lose on policy .. only if the other side cheats. They are still uniformly that way.
MAGA adopted that same playbook which is why they need to be squashed right along with the Dems.
The best way to do that is to run the way Youngkin did in Virginia. Don’t pander to MAGA but appeal to them on common policy concerns. Don’t be a rhetorical bomb thrower and don’t respond to the same (the way Nancy Mace does). Act like an adult, be a fiscal conservative, and even moderate Dems will vote for that candidate given their bench.
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...somebody else spelled that for you.
I think we're going to see a mini-pandemic of sphincter-lock among the oathkeepers if the sedition charges stick.Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:47 pmhttps://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/13/us/p ... hodes.htmlStewart Rhodes, the leader and founder of the far-right Oath Keepers militia, was arrested on Thursday and charged along with 10 others with seditious conspiracy over what prosecutors said was their wide-ranging plot to storm the Capitol on Jan. 6 last year and disrupt the certification of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s electoral victory.
The arrest of Mr. Rhodes, 56, was a major development in the sprawling investigation of the Capitol attack. He and the other Oath Keepers are the first to be charged with sedition among the more than 700 people accused so far of taking part in the assault.
Mr. Rhodes was arrested shortly before 1 p.m. at his home in Granbury, Texas, his lawyer, Jonathon Moseley, said.
The Justice Department has brought a variety of charges in connection with the Capitol attack; it has prosecuted about 275 people for obstructing Congress’s duty to certify the 2020 presidential vote count, for example. But it had not previously brought a sedition charge, with the legal weight and political overtones it carries about an election in a highly polarized country.
The charge of seditious conspiracy, which can be difficult to prove, requires prosecutors to show that at least two people agreed to use force to overthrow government authority or delay the execution of a U.S. law. It carries a maximum of sentence of 20 years in prison.
Have one of your great grandkids explain what it means when they come change your colostomy bag.
Histrionical hyperbole!?!?Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:47 pmhttps://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/13/us/p ... hodes.htmlStewart Rhodes, the leader and founder of the far-right Oath Keepers militia, was arrested on Thursday and charged along with 10 others with seditious conspiracy over what prosecutors said was their wide-ranging plot to storm the Capitol on Jan. 6 last year and disrupt the certification of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s electoral victory.
The arrest of Mr. Rhodes, 56, was a major development in the sprawling investigation of the Capitol attack. He and the other Oath Keepers are the first to be charged with sedition among the more than 700 people accused so far of taking part in the assault.
Mr. Rhodes was arrested shortly before 1 p.m. at his home in Granbury, Texas, his lawyer, Jonathon Moseley, said.
The Justice Department has brought a variety of charges in connection with the Capitol attack; it has prosecuted about 275 people for obstructing Congress’s duty to certify the 2020 presidential vote count, for example. But it had not previously brought a sedition charge, with the legal weight and political overtones it carries about an election in a highly polarized country.
The charge of seditious conspiracy, which can be difficult to prove, requires prosecutors to show that at least two people agreed to use force to overthrow government authority or delay the execution of a U.S. law. It carries a maximum of sentence of 20 years in prison.
Good boy, ReekSkjellyfetti wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/13/us/p ... hodes.htmlStewart Rhodes, the leader and founder of the far-right Oath Keepers militia, was arrested on Thursday and charged along with 10 others with seditious conspiracy over what prosecutors said was their wide-ranging plot to storm the Capitol on Jan. 6 last year and disrupt the certification of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s electoral victory.
The arrest of Mr. Rhodes, 56, was a major development in the sprawling investigation of the Capitol attack. He and the other Oath Keepers are the first to be charged with sedition among the more than 700 people accused so far of taking part in the assault.
Mr. Rhodes was arrested shortly before 1 p.m. at his home in Granbury, Texas, his lawyer, Jonathon Moseley, said.
The Justice Department has brought a variety of charges in connection with the Capitol attack; it has prosecuted about 275 people for obstructing Congress’s duty to certify the 2020 presidential vote count, for example. But it had not previously brought a sedition charge, with the legal weight and political overtones it carries about an election in a highly polarized country.
The charge of seditious conspiracy, which can be difficult to prove, requires prosecutors to show that at least two people agreed to use force to overthrow government authority or delay the execution of a U.S. law. It carries a maximum of sentence of 20 years in prison.
Politically motivated charges by the Biden DOJ & AG Garland. Waited until an election year to bring charges against some yahoos tbat they likely won’t get a conviction on, but won’t be tried until after the election, so the left will be to use as an election season talking point. Remember the last time the govt levied seditious conspiracy was the Obama DOJ in 2010 against those yahoos from Michigan, the case fell appart, and the charges got dismissed.Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:47 pmhttps://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/13/us/p ... hodes.htmlStewart Rhodes, the leader and founder of the far-right Oath Keepers militia, was arrested on Thursday and charged along with 10 others with seditious conspiracy over what prosecutors said was their wide-ranging plot to storm the Capitol on Jan. 6 last year and disrupt the certification of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s electoral victory.
The arrest of Mr. Rhodes, 56, was a major development in the sprawling investigation of the Capitol attack. He and the other Oath Keepers are the first to be charged with sedition among the more than 700 people accused so far of taking part in the assault.
Mr. Rhodes was arrested shortly before 1 p.m. at his home in Granbury, Texas, his lawyer, Jonathon Moseley, said.
The Justice Department has brought a variety of charges in connection with the Capitol attack; it has prosecuted about 275 people for obstructing Congress’s duty to certify the 2020 presidential vote count, for example. But it had not previously brought a sedition charge, with the legal weight and political overtones it carries about an election in a highly polarized country.
The charge of seditious conspiracy, which can be difficult to prove, requires prosecutors to show that at least two people agreed to use force to overthrow government authority or delay the execution of a U.S. law. It carries a maximum of sentence of 20 years in prison.
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
Do you think they were over charged?BDKJMU wrote:Politically motivated charges by the Biden DOJ & AG Garland. Waited until an election year to bring charges against some yahoos tbat they likely won’t get a conviction on, but won’t be tried until after the election, so the left will be to use as an election season talking point. Remember the last time the govt levied seditious conspiracy was the Obama DOJ in 2010 against those yahoos from Michigan, the case fell appart, and the charges got dismissed.Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:47 pm https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/13/us/p ... hodes.html
Probably.CID1990 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:58 pmDo you think they were over charged?BDKJMU wrote: Politically motivated charges by the Biden DOJ & AG Garland. Waited until an election year to bring charges against some yahoos tbat they likely won’t get a conviction on, but won’t be tried until after the election, so the left will be to use as an election season talking point. Remember the last time the govt levied seditious conspiracy was the Obama DOJ in 2010 against those yahoos from Michigan, the case fell appart, and the charges got dismissed.
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..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
Except they won’t. Which is why I’m NOT cool with throwing the book at them.
Yep.
Yep.If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
I know they won’t. Which is all the more reason to hold these morons accountable.AZGrizFan wrote:Except they won’t. Which is why I’m NOT cool with throwing the book at them.
Anything to keep the "1/6 was an insurrection" narrative alive.CID1990 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:29 pmGood boy, ReekSkjellyfetti wrote: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/13/us/p ... hodes.html
Now go back in your hovel
Oh, and good. I hope they make a hard example out of these clowns and anybody else who commits or conspires to political violence
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Well the upside to charging these guys with sedition is that we still have courts and the government will have to make its case. So I am pretty sure that we will all know precisely what these guys said and did surrounding Jan 6.SDHornet wrote:Anything to keep the "1/6 was an insurrection" narrative alive.![]()
BTW, Ray Epps was/is an oathkeeper, he getting charged too or nah?
These charges are obviously politically motivated, as of now I'm leaning on another self own by the Biden administration given their unwillingness to release footage from that day. We'll see how this plays out, but I'm thinking this will continently make the headlines when more Biden admin blunders come up...CID1990 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:55 pmWell the upside to charging these guys with sedition is that we still have courts and the government will have to make its case. So I am pretty sure that we will all know precisely what these guys said and did surrounding Jan 6.SDHornet wrote:
Anything to keep the "1/6 was an insurrection" narrative alive.![]()
BTW, Ray Epps was/is an oathkeeper, he getting charged too or nah?
And just as with the spin coming out of the White House on just about every topic these days, normal people will know if it is bullshit or not
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I’m not saying “be lenient”…charge them with trespass, whatever, slap them on the wrist (which is STILL more than they’ve done to ANTIFA and BLM rioters), and send them on their way. Politically motivated charges do nothing but further the divide in this country when a blind eye is turned to ONE side’s actions, while the others are held under a microscope and lives are destroyed. It’s not like we’re sending any kind of message to the Dem party….because they sure as fuck aren’t listening. I mean, they literally view these people as terrorists, so they don’t see anything wrong with politically-motivated charges, and in fact don’t see them as such.CID1990 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:43 pmI know they won’t. Which is all the more reason to hold these morons accountable.AZGrizFan wrote:
Except they won’t. Which is why I’m NOT cool with throwing the book at them.
Let the Democratic Party remain the party of political violence. Its no excuse for the GOP to be lenient with its own rabble
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When the GOP holds the strings of Federal power and starts rightly cracking down on political violence - they will hold the moral high ground if they don’t make excuses for these guys.AZGrizFan wrote:I’m not saying “be lenient”…charge them with trespass, whatever, slap them on the wrist (which is STILL more than they’ve done to ANTIFA and BLM rioters), and send them on their way. Politically motivated charges do nothing but further the divide in this country when a blind eye is turned to ONE side’s actions, while the others are held under a microscope and lives are destroyed. It’s not like we’re sending any kind of message to the Dem party….because they sure as fuck aren’t listening. I mean, they literally view these people as terrorists, so they don’t see anything wrong with politically-motivated charges, and in fact don’t see them as such.
SDHornet wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:02 pmThese charges are obviously politically motivated, as of now I'm leaning on another self own by the Biden administration given their unwillingness to release footage from that day. We'll see how this plays out, but I'm thinking this will continentlymake the headlines when more Biden admin blunders come up...CID1990 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:55 pm
Well the upside to charging these guys with sedition is that we still have courts and the government will have to make its case. So I am pretty sure that we will all know precisely what these guys said and did surrounding Jan 6.
And just as with the spin coming out of the White House on just about every topic these days, normal people will know if it is bullshit or not
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...and retards like jelly will lap it up.