Coronavirus COVID-19

[Gil Dobie]

And NC is considering reinstating stay at home.

There’s no fucking palatable reason for ANY person to stay home now that the rioters have been allowed to go unchecked for weeks now.

I’d tell any governor/mayor to go pound sand and open my business.

Especially if everyone followed protocol, the risk of spread would be very low.

[JohnStOnge]

Until places like Arizona and Houston are considering going back to stay at home.

Aside from your willingness to let millions die instead of 100’s of thousands at some point inaction creates a greater economic hardship than no action and dealing with it for years.

And where were these concerns when tens of thousands took to the streets to protest/riot/loot? Good luck with any future stay at home orders from here on out.

I've seen those concerns expressed pretty frequently. There's just nothing anybody can do about it without going into authoritarian mode. Also, there are people making the argument that the systemic racism thing is a public health issue so that more may be gained by what's going on with the protest than will be lost by the protests contributing to SARS-CoV-2 spread. I don't agree with it but I've heard that argument.

[kalm]

There’s no fucking palatable reason for ANY person to stay home now that the rioters have been allowed to go unchecked for weeks now.

I’d tell any governor/mayor to go pound sand and open my business.

Especially if everyone followed protocol, the risk of spread would be very low.

That’s the problem. We’re collectively too selfish and uninformed to get there.

[Gil Dobie]

Especially if everyone followed protocol, the risk of spread would be very low.

That’s the problem. We’re collectively too selfish and uninformed to get there.

And ugly partisans.

[AZGrizFan]

Especially if everyone followed protocol, the risk of spread would be very low.

That’s the problem. We’re collectively too selfish and uninformed to get there.

Blame the rioters.

[AZGrizFan]

And where were these concerns when tens of thousands took to the streets to protest/riot/loot? Good luck with any future stay at home orders from here on out.

I've seen those concerns expressed pretty frequently. There's just nothing anybody can do about it without going into authoritarian mode. Also, there are people making the argument that the systemic racism thing is a public health issue so that more may be gained by what's going on with the protest than will be lost by the protests contributing to SARS-CoV-2 spread. I don't agree with it but I've heard that argument.

Utter bullshit. Many, many MANY politicians (mayors, governors, senators) ENCOURAGED the riots and even participated in them. They didn’t want to DO anything about them. They LOVED them. So fuck them right in the ass. They have ZERO argument for shutting it down now with a “second wave” of cases showing up. Open this mother fucker up full throttle and c’este la vie.

[Gil Dobie]

That’s the problem. We’re collectively too selfish and uninformed to get there.

Blame the rioters.

Lump the rioters in with the others that don't follow protocol.

[kalm]

I've seen those concerns expressed pretty frequently. There's just nothing anybody can do about it without going into authoritarian mode. Also, there are people making the argument that the systemic racism thing is a public health issue so that more may be gained by what's going on with the protest than will be lost by the protests contributing to SARS-CoV-2 spread. I don't agree with it but I've heard that argument.

Utter bullshit. Many, many MANY politicians (mayors, governors, senators) ENCOURAGED the riots and even participated in them. They didn’t want to DO anything about them. They LOVED them. So fuck them right in the ass. They have ZERO argument for shutting it down now with a “second wave” of cases showing up. Open this mother fucker up full throttle and c’este la vie.

Especially those planned riots that turned into protests!

But yeah...that genius virus cares about human behavior and politics! Punch Covid in the face, I say!

[Gil Dobie]

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

This COVID bullshit was never a thing last November and it's still not a thing now.

It's a media hyped flu and it's news for one reason and one reason only.

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[Gil Dobie]

This COVID bullshit was never a thing last November and it's still not a thing now.

It's a media hyped flu and it's news for one reason and one reason only.

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If everyone had followed protocol this would have been over by now and the country would have been open a month ago. Too may Bunker Boy worshipers out there that wanted to make it political.

[kalm]

This COVID bullshit was never a thing last November and it's still not a thing now.

It's a media hyped flu and it's news for one reason and one reason only.

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If everyone had followed protocol this would have been over by now and the country would have been open a month ago. Too may Bunker Boy worshipers out there that wanted to make it political.

This is sadly true.

[UNI88]

Utter bullshit. Many, many MANY politicians (mayors, governors, senators) ENCOURAGED the riots and even participated in them. They didn’t want to DO anything about them. They LOVED them. So fuck them right in the ass. They have ZERO argument for shutting it down now with a “second wave” of cases showing up. Open this mother fucker up full throttle and c’este la vie.

Especially those planned riots that turned into protests!

But yeah...that genius virus cares about human behavior and politics! Punch Covid in the face, I say!

Change riots to protests. How many politicians encouraged and even participated in protests where physical distancing was not followed and not all protesters wore masks? They are absolutely hypocrites if they allowed large protests but try and limit other gatherings or argue for a second shutdown.

[kalm]

Especially those planned riots that turned into protests!

But yeah...that genius virus cares about human behavior and politics! Punch Covid in the face, I say!

Change riots to protests. How many politicians encouraged and even participated in protests where physical distancing was not followed and not all protesters wore masks? They are absolutely hypocrites if they allowed large protests but try and limit other gatherings or argue for a second shutdown.

Wait...are you suggesting some politicians are going to be hypocritical? GTFO!

The virus will determine what happens until we have TTTQ or a vaccine. Regardless of political hypocrisy and feels.

[UNI88]

Change riots to protests. How many politicians encouraged and even participated in protests where physical distancing was not followed and not all protesters wore masks? They are absolutely hypocrites if they allowed large protests but try and limit other gatherings or argue for a second shutdown.

Wait...are you suggesting some politicians are going to be hypocritical? GTFO!

The virus will determine what happens until we have TTTQ or a vaccine. Regardless of political hypocrisy and feels.

The blatant hypocrisy of essentially saying that protests are more important than commerce and jobs isn't just hypocrisy. It shows hubris and an ignorance of how the economy works. Hubris, ignorance, and hypocrisy are frightening traits to have in an elected leader.

It's our reaction to the virus, not just the virus itself that will determine what happens.

[kalm]

Wait...are you suggesting some politicians are going to be hypocritical? GTFO!

The virus will determine what happens until we have TTTQ or a vaccine. Regardless of political hypocrisy and feels.

The blatant hypocrisy of essentially saying that protests are more important than commerce and jobs isn't just hypocrisy. It shows hubris and an ignorance of how the economy works. Hubris, ignorance, and hypocrisy are frightening traits to have in an elected leader.

It's our reaction to the virus, not just the virus itself that will determine what happens.

Wait...are you saying some politicians are full of hubris? GTFO!

The virus doesn’t care about the economy either. It will infect and kill a few people. The tolerance level of deaths couched within economic hardship both from restrictions and inaction which leads to longer term economic hardships is really the only debatable point.

We had a narrow window to stop it in its tracks. We still have an opportunity to mitigate its health and economic effect. But the economy has already changed significantly and will continue to do so.

[UNI88]

The blatant hypocrisy of essentially saying that protests are more important than commerce and jobs isn't just hypocrisy. It shows hubris and an ignorance of how the economy works. Hubris, ignorance, and hypocrisy are frightening traits to have in an elected leader.

It's our reaction to the virus, not just the virus itself that will determine what happens.

Wait...are you saying some politicians are full of hubris? GTFO!

The virus doesn’t care about the economy either. It will infect and kill a few people. The tolerance level of deaths couched within economic hardship both from restrictions and inaction which leads to longer term economic hardships is really the only debatable point.

We had a narrow window to stop it in its tracks. We still have an opportunity to mitigate its health and economic effect. But the economy has already changed significantly and will continue to do so.

I would argue that over-reaction will lead to greater longer-term economic hardships than inaction (or more honestly, under reaction). The damage done by overreaction is a snowball that develops into an avalanche of economic damage.

One of the many mistakes that was made early in this crisis was to rely on epidemiologists and not get the opinions of psychologists and other experts on how to structure the response from a people perspective to improve the likelihood of compliance. I don't think they gave enough consideration to how people would react, what words should be used (social distancing was a stupid choice), etc.

[kalm]

Wait...are you saying some politicians are full of hubris? GTFO!

The virus doesn’t care about the economy either. It will infect and kill a few people. The tolerance level of deaths couched within economic hardship both from restrictions and inaction which leads to longer term economic hardships is really the only debatable point.

We had a narrow window to stop it in its tracks. We still have an opportunity to mitigate its health and economic effect. But the economy has already changed significantly and will continue to do so.

I would argue that over-reaction will lead to greater longer-term economic hardships than inaction (or more honestly, under reaction). The damage done by overreaction is a snowball that develops into an avalanche of economic damage.

One of the many mistakes that was made early in this crisis was to rely on epidemiologists and not get the opinions of psychologists and other experts on how to structure the response from a people perspective to improve the likelihood of compliance. I don't think they gave enough consideration to how people would react, what words should be used (social distancing was a stupid choice), etc.

You can make that argument. Historical evidence and how it’s playing out so far and what’s predicted to occur in the short term aren’t leaning your direction.

Part of the problem is the Fed is still sitting on asset reserves designed EXACTLY for this situation. Those will eventually have be used to avoid a recession by floating states and the working class.

How do you know that psychologists haven’t been consulted?

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

This COVID bullshit was never a thing last November and it's still not a thing now.

It's a media hyped flu and it's news for one reason and one reason only.

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If everyone had followed protocol this would have been over by now and the country would have been open a month ago. Too may Bunker Boy worshipers out there that wanted to make it political.

The country has never closed there isn't o e thing I do regularly that I didn't do throughout the media fraud virus. In fact most things were way fucking easier to do.


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[BDKJMU]

I would argue that over-reaction will lead to greater longer-term economic hardships than inaction (or more honestly, under reaction). The damage done by overreaction is a snowball that develops into an avalanche of economic damage.

One of the many mistakes that was made early in this crisis was to rely on epidemiologists and not get the opinions of psychologists and other experts on how to structure the response from a people perspective to improve the likelihood of compliance. I don't think they gave enough consideration to how people would react, what words should be used (social distancing was a stupid choice), etc.

You can make that argument. Historical evidence and how it’s playing out so far and what’s predicted to occur in the short term aren’t leaning your direction.

Part of the problem is the Fed is still sitting on asset reserves designed EXACTLY for this situation. Those will eventually have be used to avoid a recession by floating states and the working class.

How do you know that psychologists haven’t been consulted?

You mean just print and give away trillions more in funny money?

[kalm]

You can make that argument. Historical evidence and how it’s playing out so far and what’s predicted to occur in the short term aren’t leaning your direction.

Part of the problem is the Fed is still sitting on asset reserves designed EXACTLY for this situation. Those will eventually have be used to avoid a recession by floating states and the working class.

How do you know that psychologists haven’t been consulted?

You mean just print and give away trillions more in funny money?

We’re you bitching when we bailed private equity firms and the Fed bought up junk bonds at the start of this?

[BDKJMU]

You mean just print and give away trillions more in funny money?

We’re you bitching when we bailed private equity firms and the Fed bought up junk bonds at the start of this?

How many trillions in bailouts can we do without causing inflation to skyrocket? Another 3 trillion on top of the 3 trillion already? I might need to go buy a wheelbarrow.

[kalm]

We’re you bitching when we bailed private equity firms and the Fed bought up junk bonds at the start of this?

How many trillions in bailouts can we do without causing inflation to skyrocket? Another 3 trillion on top of the 3 trillion already? I might need to go buy a wheelbarrow.

Answer the question.

It will take at least another trillion and probably from direct congressional spending and it will happen. The time to bitch about this was when we’re not funding the war in Iraq and when we were cutting taxes.

[dbackjon]

Outside of getting safeguards in for the vulnerable (retirement communities, extra protocols at hospitals, etc) the whole thing was a waste. Ok we bent the curve, which apparently now means nothing according to some of the fear porn narratives circulating.

The shutdown was a knee jerk reaction due to fear and now its obvious nothing has changing until a vaccine/treatments are developed. Literally nothing has changed. The Chinese Flu is nowhere near as deadly as the "experts" claimed it would be. Now it's not the flu, it's worse but its not the catastrophic virus that will kill millions of American.

You mean the same safeguards that prevented a shit ton more deaths since March? Man are you stubborn on this...

While some countries have successfully addressed the health crisis, others appear ill-equipped to prevent its spread. The lack of testing, resources, manpower, medication, and facilities to handle diagnosed cases might be the biggest factors contributing to increased transmissions. On the other hand, another likely reason is the sheer disregard of individuals to follow safety directives. Currently, 7.27 million cases have been recorded worldwide. What's alarming is that 2.06 million are from the United States alone.

Hence, medical experts are concerned as to why lockdowns have been eased in the country despite no clear evidence that the infection rates have gone down. Moreover, the nationwide protests against racial injustice following the death of George Floyd in police custody may have contributed to even more transmissions. Images and videos of these rallies clearly show the absence of social distancing and lack of personal protective equipment such as face shields or surgical masks.

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/google-search ... nt-1679500

He is being stubborn on it.

[kalm]

From The RevSFA on AGS:

City of Alice Emergency Management Media Release – Jim Wells County Juan Rodriguez and City of Alice Mayor Jolene Vanover issue travel advisory to the Houston / Galveston area

For Immediate Release: June 12, 2020; 4:45 p.m.

Based on the latest medical information and thru continual state surveillance for COVID-19 Jim Wells County Judge Juan Rodriguez and City of Alice Mayor Jolene Vanover are issuing a travel advisory for travel to the Houston / Galveston area. Any resident of our community or visitor from this area is strongly encouraged to self-quarantine for 14 days and strongly encouraged to get tested for COVID-19 from 5 to 7 days on return.