I wonder if it's infected anyone on this board?"There are members of Congress today who still incorrectly say that this conflict between Russia and Ukraine is over NATO, which of course it is not," he added.
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His comments come on the heels of remarks House Foreign Affairs Committee Chair Michael McCaul made this week about how Russian propaganda has taken root among the GOP.
McCaul, a Texas Republican, told Puck News that he thinks "Russian propaganda has made its way into the United States, unfortunately, and it’s infected a good chunk of my party’s base."
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"[The propaganda] makes it more difficult for us to really see this as an authoritarian versus democracy battle, which is what it is," Turner told CNN, adding, "President Xi of China, Vladimir Putin himself have identified as such."
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GOP Reps. Mike Turner and Mike McCaul say Russian propaganda is being repeated by Republicans

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I wonder why we had to keep Russia as public enemy number one after we won the Cold War …. The long term outcome should of been much better for the US and the worldUNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:26 pm GOP Reps. Mike Turner and Mike McCaul say Russian propaganda is being repeated by Republicans
I wonder if it's infected anyone on this board?"There are members of Congress today who still incorrectly say that this conflict between Russia and Ukraine is over NATO, which of course it is not," he added.
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His comments come on the heels of remarks House Foreign Affairs Committee Chair Michael McCaul made this week about how Russian propaganda has taken root among the GOP.
McCaul, a Texas Republican, told Puck News that he thinks "Russian propaganda has made its way into the United States, unfortunately, and it’s infected a good chunk of my party’s base."
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"[The propaganda] makes it more difficult for us to really see this as an authoritarian versus democracy battle, which is what it is," Turner told CNN, adding, "President Xi of China, Vladimir Putin himself have identified as such."![]()
China should be the enemy but that can’t happen with Xiben in office ..
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I thought radical Muslims replaced Russia for awhile?Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 4:18 amI wonder why we had to keep Russia as public enemy number one after we won the Cold War …. The long term outcome should of been much better for the US and the worldUNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:26 pm GOP Reps. Mike Turner and Mike McCaul say Russian propaganda is being repeated by Republicans
I wonder if it's infected anyone on this board?![]()
China should be the enemy but that can’t happen with Xiben in office ..
How would you like us to regard Russia?
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We can only have one enemy at a time?Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 4:18 amI wonder why we had to keep Russia as public enemy number one after we won the Cold War …. The long term outcome should of been much better for the US and the worldUNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:26 pm GOP Reps. Mike Turner and Mike McCaul say Russian propaganda is being repeated by Republicans
I wonder if it's infected anyone on this board?![]()
China should be the enemy but that can’t happen with Xiben in office ..
As Representative McCaul said:
China is a greater threat, especially long-term but Russia is also a threat along with Iran and North Korea."I have to explain to them what’s at stake, why Ukraine is in our national security interest," he said. "By the way, you don’t like Communist China? Well, guess what? They’re aligned [with Russia], along with the ayatollah [of Iran]. So when you explain it that way, they kind of start understanding it."
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It’s to late nowkalm wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:40 amI thought radical Muslims replaced Russia for awhile?Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 4:18 am
I wonder why we had to keep Russia as public enemy number one after we won the Cold War …. The long term outcome should of been much better for the US and the world
China should be the enemy but that can’t happen with Xiben in office ..
How would you like us to regard Russia?
How many times did Putin ask former Presidents about Russia joining NATO?
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I don’t know?Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:16 pmIt’s to late now
How many times did Putin ask former Presidents about Russia joining NATO?
How many times has NATO invaded a country?
If that was Putin’s concern, his actions grew the size of NATO and brought it closer Russia. Good job!
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I know he asked at least twicekalm wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:53 amI don’t know?Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:16 pm
It’s to late now
How many times did Putin ask former Presidents about Russia joining NATO?
How many times has NATO invaded a country?
If that was Putin’s concern, his actions grew the size of NATO and brought it closer Russia. Good job!
Clinton followed by George Bush
The Cold War was over and yet that fact didn’t seem to sink in 25 years ago when he was told …. Don’t think so
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This was all debated earlier in the thread. Putin’s actions have proven it was not a wise choice.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:18 pmI know he asked at least twice
Clinton followed by George Bush
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Not being able to work with him has proven to be a disaster. Back in the day some young journalists would lay it all out, but now you better get in line with the puppet masters or elsekalm wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:35 pmThis was all debated earlier in the thread. Putin’s actions have proven it was not a wise choice.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:18 pm
I know he asked at least twice
Clinton followed by George Bush
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Why are siding with Putin? Do you think his actions engender trust?Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:11 amNot being able to work with him has proven to be a disaster. Back in the day some young journalists would lay it all out, but now you better get in line with the puppet masters or else
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I’m not siding with Putin. I’m also not nodding my head in agreement with everything in the establishment tells you.kalm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:05 pmWhy are siding with Putin? Do you think his actions engender trust?Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:11 am
Not being able to work with him has proven to be a disaster. Back in the day some young journalists would lay it all out, but now you better get in line with the puppet masters or else
There are a lot of shaky characters in the world that the US has managed to get along with. For some reason they could never get it right with Putin and Russia, after the cold war was over.
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Caring more than Hamas is not a difficult standard to exceed
I think Netanyahu is OK with losing the hostages if it prolongs his time in power
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Whachoo talkin' bout, Willis?Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:02 pmI’m not siding with Putin. I’m also not nodding my head in agreement with everything in the establishment tells you.
There are a lot of shaky characters in the world that the US has managed to get along with. For some reason they could never get it right with Putin and Russia, after the cold war was over.
We got along pretty well until Putin took power - glasnost, perestroika, Yeltsin, Gorbachev ... The Russians lost a great deal of their sphere of influence when the Soviet Union came apart and Putin's schtik has always been about returning to the good old days of the Soviet Union as a nuclear superpower. Invading the breadbasket of Europe is a big step in that direction.
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houndawg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:28 amWhachoo talkin' bout, Willis?Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:02 pm
I’m not siding with Putin. I’m also not nodding my head in agreement with everything in the establishment tells you.
There are a lot of shaky characters in the world that the US has managed to get along with. For some reason they could never get it right with Putin and Russia, after the cold war was over.![]()
We got along pretty well until Putin took power - glasnost, perestroika, Yeltsin, Gorbachev ... The Russians lost a great deal of their sphere of influence when the Soviet Union came apart and Putin's schtik has always been about returning to the good old days of the Soviet Union as a nuclear superpower. Invading the breadbasket of Europe is a big step in that direction.
Restoring the lost glory of the old empire is literally in their daily propaganda.
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But, but, but putin asked about joining NATO and we didn't take him seriously. Invading Ukraine was just a temper tantrum to show his displeasure. It wasn't his fault, it was ours. That and Zelenskyy is corrupt and a Nazi and ...kalm wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:54 amhoundawg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:28 am
Whachoo talkin' bout, Willis?![]()
We got along pretty well until Putin took power - glasnost, perestroika, Yeltsin, Gorbachev ... The Russians lost a great deal of their sphere of influence when the Soviet Union came apart and Putin's schtik has always been about returning to the good old days of the Soviet Union as a nuclear superpower. Invading the breadbasket of Europe is a big step in that direction.![]()
Restoring the lost glory of the old empire is literally in their daily propaganda.
... MAQA yahoos will keep throwing logical bullshit at the wall and hope something makes sense. All in the name of defending trump and is mentally unstable obsession with dictators like putin and jong un.
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You're alive! I assumed that you're working out your explantion for why the godless commies closing down Ukraine's version of Christianity is a good thing for all concerned. Not that I disagree, just having fun watching you warm up the pretzelogic boogieSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:20 pmYou do remember there is a whole thread on you being gullible about Russia collusion...right?Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:16 am IT WAS UKRAINE.
ok, fine. it was ISIS. but, maybe ukraine still?
and SeattleGriz laps it up.
https://www.politico.eu/article/putin-a ... st-attack/
Just checking.
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What does Trump have the do with any of this?UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:30 amBut, but, but putin asked about joining NATO and we didn't take him seriously. Invading Ukraine was just a temper tantrum to show his displeasure. It wasn't his fault, it was ours. That and Zelenskyy is corrupt and a Nazi and ...![]()
... MAQA yahoos will keep throwing logical bullshit at the wall and hope something makes sense. All in the name of defending trump and is mentally unstable obsession with dictators like putin and jong un.
Putin was under control when Donny was in power
Have you noticed how everything started falling apart when Joey Idol took over…
You guys are seriously infected
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There is a difference between causation and correlation.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:12 amWhat does Trump have the do with any of this?UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:30 am
But, but, but putin asked about joining NATO and we didn't take him seriously. Invading Ukraine was just a temper tantrum to show his displeasure. It wasn't his fault, it was ours. That and Zelenskyy is corrupt and a Nazi and ...![]()
... MAQA yahoos will keep throwing logical bullshit at the wall and hope something makes sense. All in the name of defending trump and is mentally unstable obsession with dictators like putin and jong un.
Putin was under control when Donny was in power
Have you noticed how everything started falling apart when Joey Idol took over…
You guys are seriously infected
If you can assume that biden was the reason that "everything started falling apart" then I can assume that trump dismissed his interpreter in Helsinki so that there would be no witnesses when putin tied him up and played dominatrix.
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Wut? Didn't Zelensky restrict/confine Christianity in Ukraine already? Putin's putting the cherry on top, you say?houndawg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:09 amYou're alive! I assumed that you're working out your explantion for why the godless commies closing down Ukraine's version of Christianity is a good thing for all concerned. Not that I disagree, just having fun watching you warm up the pretzelogic boogieSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:20 pm
You do remember there is a whole thread on you being gullible about Russia collusion...right?
Just checking.
On a more important note. I slapped an engineer around today. Cried like a baby. Like you.
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Not sure, don't care, doesn't matter. Just getting a chuckle out your contortions.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:29 pmWut? Didn't Zelensky restrict/confine Christianity in Ukraine already? Putin's putting the cherry on top, you say?
On a more important note. I slapped my weewee around today.
Zelensky hasn't sent troops into churches.
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I thought Obama said Russian boogey men were 80's.Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:12 amWhat does Trump have the do with any of this?UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:30 am
But, but, but putin asked about joining NATO and we didn't take him seriously. Invading Ukraine was just a temper tantrum to show his displeasure. It wasn't his fault, it was ours. That and Zelenskyy is corrupt and a Nazi and ...![]()
... MAQA yahoos will keep throwing logical bullshit at the wall and hope something makes sense. All in the name of defending trump and is mentally unstable obsession with dictators like putin and jong un.
Putin was under control when Donny was in power
Have you noticed how everything started falling apart when Joey Idol took over…
You guys are seriously infected
What the fuck did that lazy bastard Obama do to America to make Russia such a powerhouse in so little time.
Thanks Klam, Hdoge, StUni and GFan for your substantial short sightedness.
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‘Stop Bringing Up Nazis and Hitler’: Moskowitz Goes Off On Marjorie Taylor Greene In Tense Hearing
Moskowitz slaps marge so hard that he might have knocked putin off his bear.Now I want to address something else that went on in this committee. By another member and I say this as someone whose grandparents, escaped the Holocaust. My grandmother was part of the Kindertransport out of Germany. Her parents were killed in Auschwitz. My grandfather, her husband, escaped Poland from the pogroms. Her parents were killed in Auschwitz. My grandfather, her husband escaped Poland from the pogroms. You know, the idea that we pretend that behavior is acceptable and regular. There are no concentration camps in Ukraine. They’re not taking babies and shooting them in the air because they’re Jewish. There’s no gas chambers. There’s no ovens. They’re not railing people in. They’re not ripping gold out of people’s mouth. They’re not taking stuff out of their home. They’re not trying to erase a people, the Ukrainians.
Stop bringing up Nazis and Hitler. The only people who know about Nazis and Hitler are the 10 million people and their families who lost their loved ones. Generations of people who were wiped out. It is enough of this disgusting behavior using Nazis as propaganda. You want to talk about Nazis? Get yourself over to the Holocaust Museum, you go see what Nazis did. It’s despicable that we use that and we allow it, and we sit here like somehow it’s regular.
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US weighs sending additional military advisers to Ukraine as Russia gains momentum
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/us ... r-AA1nmNeo
Military advisors in a foreign conflict. Where have we heard that one before? Remember when Trump was going to get us into WWIII?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/us ... r-AA1nmNeo
Military advisors in a foreign conflict. Where have we heard that one before? Remember when Trump was going to get us into WWIII?
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It’s becoming clearer now why they hated Trump so much. This country needs war and the swamp will do whatever is necessary to keep it soBDKJMU wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:50 pm US weighs sending additional military advisers to Ukraine as Russia gains momentum
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/us ... r-AA1nmNeo
Military advisors in a foreign conflict. Where have we heard that one before? Remember when Trump was going to get us into WWIII?


