The Ukraine Crisis

[UNI88]

Oh no, 2 companies trying to get facts out so the other 30 don't manipulate the world. Sick bastard

Which 2 companies are those?

It sure as sh!t ain't OAN or Newsmax. Your belief in their propaganda doesn't mean it isn't propaganda and isn't just as bad as what the 30 are spreading.

You probably believe tucker's opinions are facts as well.

[Bobcat]

Oh no, 2 companies trying to get facts out so the other 30 don't manipulate the world. Sick bastard

Which 2 companies are those?

It sure as sh!t ain't OAN or Newsmax. Your belief in their propaganda doesn't mean it isn't propaganda and isn't just as bad as what the 30 are spreading.

You probably believe tucker's opinions are facts as well.

I cant believe you missed the point

Fox OAN Newsmax

ABC NBC CBS MSNBC CNN HNN REUTERS AP NYT PBS HUFF POST BBC ATLANTIC MOTHER JONES NEW YORKER WaPost not gonna list the other hundreds.

Yeah fair and balanced

[UNI88]

Which 2 companies are those?

It sure as sh!t ain't OAN or Newsmax. Your belief in their propaganda doesn't mean it isn't propaganda and isn't just as bad as what the 30 are spreading.

You probably believe tucker's opinions are facts as well.

I cant believe you missed the point

Fox OAN Newsmax

ABC NBC CBS MSNBC CNN HNN REUTERS AP NYT PBS HUFF POST BBC ATLANTIC MOTHER JONES NEW YORKER WaPost not gonna list the other hundreds.

Yeah fair and balanced

REUTERS??? They might be the most fair and balanced of all the ones you named.

Let's not forget to include the NY Post, Washington Examiner, Conservative Treehouse, etc. with Fox, OAN & Newsmax.

Let's also acknowledge the echo chambers where MAQA yahoos go to spout their conspiracy theories and come away believing they're factual despite the lack of proof/evidence because so many other people were spouting the same bullsh!t that it has to be true.

What has happened to the media in this country is a shame but that shame isn't limited to ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, etc., Fox, OAN, Newsmax, NY Post, Washington Examiner, etc. are just as biased. They've all guilty of calling opinions facts and propaganda news in order to promote their agendas rather than reporting the news.

[Caribbean Hen]

I cant believe you missed the point

Fox OAN Newsmax

ABC NBC CBS MSNBC CNN HNN REUTERS AP NYT PBS HUFF POST BBC ATLANTIC MOTHER JONES NEW YORKER WaPost not gonna list the other hundreds.

Yeah fair and balanced

REUTERS??? They might be the most fair and balanced of all the ones you named.

Let's not forget to include the NY Post, Washington Examiner, Conservative Treehouse, etc. with Fox, OAN & Newsmax.

Let's also acknowledge the echo chambers where MAQA yahoos go to spout their conspiracy theories and come away believing they're factual despite the lack of proof/evidence because so many other people were spouting the same bullsh!t that it has to be true.

What has happened to the media in this country is a shame but that shame isn't limited to ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, etc., Fox, OAN, Newsmax, NY Post, Washington Examiner, etc. are just as biased. They've all guilty of calling opinions facts and propaganda news in order to promote their agendas rather than reporting the news.

NY Post always gets it right

They broke the hunter laptop story that was covered up by the Biden loving 4th Estate and the social media big boys blocked the story from their networks as well. Nobody is allowed to see it.

All happened a few months before the election

Joey Rottens deep swamp rushed to his rescue with 51 fake signatures, saying the New York post story on the laptop was Russian disinformation. This was the same laptop that was used to prosecute Hunter.

Not one of these media outlets has admitted they got it wrong

So don’t tell me the election wasn’t stolen because it was stolen in plain sight

[kalm]

REUTERS??? They might be the most fair and balanced of all the ones you named.

Let's not forget to include the NY Post, Washington Examiner, Conservative Treehouse, etc. with Fox, OAN & Newsmax.

Let's also acknowledge the echo chambers where MAQA yahoos go to spout their conspiracy theories and come away believing they're factual despite the lack of proof/evidence because so many other people were spouting the same bullsh!t that it has to be true.

What has happened to the media in this country is a shame but that shame isn't limited to ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, etc., Fox, OAN, Newsmax, NY Post, Washington Examiner, etc. are just as biased. They've all guilty of calling opinions facts and propaganda news in order to promote their agendas rather than reporting the news.

NY Post always gets it right

They broke the hunter laptop story that was covered up by the Biden loving 4th Estate and the social media big boys blocked the story from their networks as well. Nobody is allowed to see it.

All happened a few months before the election

Joey Rottens deep swamp rushed to his rescue with 51 fake signatures, saying the New York post story on the laptop was Russian disinformation. This was the same laptop that was used to prosecute Hunter.

Not one of these media outlets has admitted they got it wrong

So don’t tell me the election wasn’t stolen because it was stolen in plain sight

Which copy of the hard drive?

[Caribbean Hen]

NY Post always gets it right

They broke the hunter laptop story that was covered up by the Biden loving 4th Estate and the social media big boys blocked the story from their networks as well. Nobody is allowed to see it.

All happened a few months before the election

Joey Rottens deep swamp rushed to his rescue with 51 fake signatures, saying the New York post story on the laptop was Russian disinformation. This was the same laptop that was used to prosecute Hunter.

Not one of these media outlets has admitted they got it wrong

So don’t tell me the election wasn’t stolen because it was stolen in plain sight

Which copy of the hard drive?

The one they used for the guilty verdict in court

[kalm]

Which copy of the hard drive?

The one they used for the guilty verdict in court

For tax evasion and the weapons charge?

[UNI88]

REUTERS??? They might be the most fair and balanced of all the ones you named.

Let's not forget to include the NY Post, Washington Examiner, Conservative Treehouse, etc. with Fox, OAN & Newsmax.

Let's also acknowledge the echo chambers where MAQA yahoos go to spout their conspiracy theories and come away believing they're factual despite the lack of proof/evidence because so many other people were spouting the same bullsh!t that it has to be true.

What has happened to the media in this country is a shame but that shame isn't limited to ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, etc., Fox, OAN, Newsmax, NY Post, Washington Examiner, etc. are just as biased. They've all guilty of calling opinions facts and propaganda news in order to promote their agendas rather than reporting the news.

NY Post always gets it right

They broke the hunter laptop story that was covered up by the Biden loving 4th Estate and the social media big boys blocked the story from their networks as well. Nobody is allowed to see it.

All happened a few months before the election

Joey Rottens deep swamp rushed to his rescue with 51 fake signatures, saying the New York post story on the laptop was Russian disinformation. This was the same laptop that was used to prosecute Hunter.

Not one of these media outlets has admitted they got it wrong

So don’t tell me the election wasn’t stolen because it was stolen in plain sight

Does Fox get credit for admitting they were wrong? Or does that admission not count because it happened as a result of legal action?

I’d give them some credit for sh!tcanning that loud-mouthed twat, tucker putinsbitch.


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[SeattleGriz]

NY Post always gets it right

They broke the hunter laptop story that was covered up by the Biden loving 4th Estate and the social media big boys blocked the story from their networks as well. Nobody is allowed to see it.

All happened a few months before the election

Joey Rottens deep swamp rushed to his rescue with 51 fake signatures, saying the New York post story on the laptop was Russian disinformation. This was the same laptop that was used to prosecute Hunter.

Not one of these media outlets has admitted they got it wrong

So don’t tell me the election wasn’t stolen because it was stolen in plain sight

Does Fox get credit for admitting they were wrong? Or does that admission not count because it happened as a result of legal action?

I’d give them some credit for sh!tcanning that loud-mouthed twat, tucker putinsbitch.


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Tucker Derangement Syndrome. TDS type II

Noted.

[SDHornet]

Haven't kept up on this topic much but from the info I've seen it looks like the Russians are just slowly chewing away territory and manpower in Eastern Ukraine. Ukraine air defenses seem to be all but gone and the Russians are just flattening Ukrainian positions with glide bombs.

Saw someone speculate that Ukraine might get serious about a peace deal given that Mean Tweets is now favored to win in November and he would likely draw an end to this whole debacle if that happens (one of the reasons for the assassination attempt yesterday). For the sake of all the Ukrainians getting press ganged into cannon fodder, I hope peace finds this corner of the globe sooner rather than later.

[UNI88]

Haven't kept up on this topic much but from the info I've seen it looks like the Russians are just slowly chewing away territory and manpower in Eastern Ukraine. Ukraine air defenses seem to be all but gone and the Russians are just flattening Ukrainian positions with glide bombs.

Saw someone speculate that Ukraine might get serious about a peace deal given that Mean Tweets is now favored to win in November and he would likely draw an end to this whole debacle if that happens (one of the reasons for the assassination attempt yesterday). For the sake of all the Ukrainians getting press ganged into cannon fodder, I hope peace finds this corner of the globe sooner rather than later.

Peace without NATO membership for Ukraine is temporary. It just gives Putin time to rearm and train his conscripts before attacking again.


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[Skjellyfetti]

he would likely draw an end to this whole debacle if that happens (one of the reasons for the assassination attempt yesterday).

lolwut

[GannonFan]

Haven't kept up on this topic much but from the info I've seen it looks like the Russians are just slowly chewing away territory and manpower in Eastern Ukraine. Ukraine air defenses seem to be all but gone and the Russians are just flattening Ukrainian positions with glide bombs.

Saw someone speculate that Ukraine might get serious about a peace deal given that Mean Tweets is now favored to win in November and he would likely draw an end to this whole debacle if that happens (one of the reasons for the assassination attempt yesterday). For the sake of all the Ukrainians getting press ganged into cannon fodder, I hope peace finds this corner of the globe sooner rather than later.

Peace without NATO membership for Ukraine is temporary. It just gives Putin time to rearm and train his conscripts before attacking again.


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Indeed. Ukraine is very likely going to be unable to push Russia out of its territory. Just like Crimea, Russia will apparently be holding on to Ukrainian territory for the foreseeable future. But if Ukraine signs off on any "peace" treaty, it'll have to be with NATO membership for what's left of Ukraine or Russia will just continue the war as they did after seizing Crimea. Russia won't chance NATO getting involved, so the best way to save the rest of the Ukraine is to get a treaty now at the same time they get NATO membership.

[Caribbean Hen]

It all would of been much better if they negotiated at the beginning but we needed to waive those Ukraine flags

So dumb

[GannonFan]

It all would of been much better if they negotiated at the beginning but we needed to waive those Ukraine flags

So dumb

Huh? Negotiate what? Giving up national sovereignty? How would that go? Russia comes to the table and says "we're still holding onto territory in Crimea we illegally stole a decade ago, but now we also want the eastern portion of your country. We believe we're entitled to it because we're Russians, and by the way, we don't even think you're a real country". How is that even a negotiation? Give us the land or we'll attack (well, increase the attack, we've been attacking with guerilla groups for a decade) and take it anyway? When do nations get to hold onto their sovereignty and say no? I suppose when we give NATO membership to what's left of Ukraine will be when they can say no.

[Caribbean Hen]

It all would of been much better if they negotiated at the beginning but we needed to waive those Ukraine flags

So dumb

Huh? Negotiate what? Giving up national sovereignty? How would that go? Russia comes to the table and says "we're still holding onto territory in Crimea we illegally stole a decade ago, but now we also want the eastern portion of your country. We believe we're entitled to it because we're Russians, and by the way, we don't even think you're a real country". How is that even a negotiation? Give us the land or we'll attack (well, increase the attack, we've been attacking with guerilla groups for a decade) and take it anyway? When do nations get to hold onto their sovereignty and say no? I suppose when we give NATO membership to what's left of Ukraine will be when they can say no.

Killing people unnecessarily for starters

[GannonFan]

Huh? Negotiate what? Giving up national sovereignty? How would that go? Russia comes to the table and says "we're still holding onto territory in Crimea we illegally stole a decade ago, but now we also want the eastern portion of your country. We believe we're entitled to it because we're Russians, and by the way, we don't even think you're a real country". How is that even a negotiation? Give us the land or we'll attack (well, increase the attack, we've been attacking with guerilla groups for a decade) and take it anyway? When do nations get to hold onto their sovereignty and say no? I suppose when we give NATO membership to what's left of Ukraine will be when they can say no.

Killing people unnecessarily for starters

So the poor folks who fought to keep their homes and their country from the invading Russians? Pretty sure a lot of them had the option to flee and they stayed and fought for their homes. Who's fault is that, them for being stubborn or the invaders shooting them?

[Caribbean Hen]

Killing people unnecessarily for starters

So the poor folks who fought to keep their homes and their country from the invading Russians? Pretty sure a lot of them had the option to flee and they stayed and fought for their homes. Who's fault is that, them for being stubborn or the invaders shooting them?

There are no solutions
only trade offs

[UNI88]

How will allowing Ukraine to use US weapons to strike within russia impact the conflict? It had to be frustrating to watch the russians prepare for offensives knowing they wouldn't face fire until they entered Ukraine. The ability to disrupt those operations behind the border should help Ukrainian morale.

[Bobcat]

Its none of our (USA) business we shouldn't even be involved in any way, keep our money here

[Caribbean Hen]

The narrative that Russia would roll into Poland is a false narrative

[UNI88]

The narrative that Russia would roll into Poland is a false narrative

The narrative that russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if trump were President is a false narrative.

[UNI88]

Its none of our (USA) business we shouldn't even be involved in any way, keep our money here

That worked out so well in the 1930's that we should do it again.

[Bobcat]

Its none of our (USA) business we shouldn't even be involved in any way, keep our money here

That worked out so well in the 1930's that we should do it again.

You need to send that to the countries being invaded.

Its none of our business.

[UNI88]

That worked out so well in the 1930's that we should do it again.

You need to send that to the countries being invaded.

Its none of our business.

You're not attempting to revive the false narrative that it's Ukraine's fault they were invaded are you?