https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsma ... KocKGbVMmgTesla is in a world of hurt. Sales in California, its main market in the U.S., plummeted 31% in January from a year ago. European numbers are even worse, dropping 43% in the year’s first two months. And in China, by far its most important market for profitability, Tesla sales crashed 29% through February. Its stock has tanked, dropping 34% this year. A backlash has grown against part-time CEO Elon Musk–who also leads five other companies–with protests at Tesla stores and the torching of vehicles as he carries out a clumsy attempt to slash government workers and spending as Trump's DOGE master.
But things are about to get worse.
Falling sales indicate that the company's financial health is fundamentally faltering as competitors are surging, particularly rival BYD. The Chinese EV and battery maker for the first time topped Tesla in revenue in 2024 and is on pace to leave it in the dust as the global leader in electric vehicle sales this year. Tesla’s brand is becoming toxic in California, which has nurtured it since the Roadster arrived in 2008. It’s even failing on the technology front, with BYD outpacing it with a super-fast charging battery system and Waymo dominating in self-driving cars, which Musk has bet the company on.
“Many have out-Tesla-ed Tesla in software, range and in intelligent driving and are making Tesla look like the laggard.”
The worst by far, though, is what’s happening to Tesla in China, where it opened its Shanghai plant in 2019. That plant, the first in China wholly owned by a foreign carmaker, marked a turning point for Tesla, fueling a massive sales spike and pushing it into the black consistently thanks to low-cost Chinese labor, parts and logistics. But a decline in that market, where Tesla has seen consistent growth up until this year, threatens to narrow its already shrinking profit margins. A big reason for slower sales: China’s domestic EV companies are starting to beat Tesla on, well, everything.
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Sad face today…The Closing of Justice Elect's Susan Crawford's Acceptace Speech quoting Thurgood Marshall was so spot fucking on! Brazo Zulu!
“We cannot play ostrich. Democracy just cannot flourish amid fear. Liberty cannot bloom amid hate. Justice cannot take root amid rage. America must get to work. In the chill climate in which we live, we must go against the prevailing wind. We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.”
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This blowhard probably can’t balance a checkbookkalm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 7:38 amSad face today…The Closing of Justice Elect's Susan Crawford's Acceptace Speech quoting Thurgood Marshall was so spot fucking on! Brazo Zulu!
“We cannot play ostrich. Democracy just cannot flourish amid fear. Liberty cannot bloom amid hate. Justice cannot take root amid rage. America must get to work. In the chill climate in which we live, we must go against the prevailing wind. We must dissent from the indifference. We must dissent from the apathy. We must dissent from the fear, the hatred and the mistrust. We must dissent from a nation that has buried its head in the sand, waiting in vain for the needs of its poor, its elderly, and its sick to disappear and just blow away. We must dissent from a government that has left its young without jobs, education or hope. We must dissent from the poverty of vision and the absence of moral leadership. We must dissent because America can do better, because America has no choice but to do better.”
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Have a little more faith in eloon.
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klam Walzkalm wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 6:55 pmhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsma ... KocKGbVMmgTesla is in a world of hurt. Sales in California, its main market in the U.S., plummeted 31% in January from a year ago. European numbers are even worse, dropping 43% in the year’s first two months. And in China, by far its most important market for profitability, Tesla sales crashed 29% through February. Its stock has tanked, dropping 34% this year. A backlash has grown against part-time CEO Elon Musk–who also leads five other companies–with protests at Tesla stores and the torching of vehicles as he carries out a clumsy attempt to slash government workers and spending as Trump's DOGE master.
But things are about to get worse.
Falling sales indicate that the company's financial health is fundamentally faltering as competitors are surging, particularly rival BYD. The Chinese EV and battery maker for the first time topped Tesla in revenue in 2024 and is on pace to leave it in the dust as the global leader in electric vehicle sales this year. Tesla’s brand is becoming toxic in California, which has nurtured it since the Roadster arrived in 2008. It’s even failing on the technology front, with BYD outpacing it with a super-fast charging battery system and Waymo dominating in self-driving cars, which Musk has bet the company on.
“Many have out-Tesla-ed Tesla in software, range and in intelligent driving and are making Tesla look like the laggard.”
The worst by far, though, is what’s happening to Tesla in China, where it opened its Shanghai plant in 2019. That plant, the first in China wholly owned by a foreign carmaker, marked a turning point for Tesla, fueling a massive sales spike and pushing it into the black consistently thanks to low-cost Chinese labor, parts and logistics. But a decline in that market, where Tesla has seen consistent growth up until this year, threatens to narrow its already shrinking profit margins. A big reason for slower sales: China’s domestic EV companies are starting to beat Tesla on, well, everything.
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Let’s consult Jesse Watters. He’s made it clear how not beta he is. Or maybe I’ll check with Vance.
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vance and watters are males that trump has politically cuckholded.
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I find it humorous that MAQA yahoos like to call trump's male opponents "betas" when trump is such an insecure twat that he requires his supporters to surrender their balls and spines and swear absolute loyalty. Can't allow dissenting opinions or anything that might make the fragile snowflake look bad.
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Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
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Oh. Let me explain. Using the term beta is similar to using the r-word. It displays some amount of insecurity in the speaker.
Jesse Watters is a Fox host who has stated men shouldn’t eat soup in public or drink milkshakes from a straw as it’s not manly.
JD Vance gives off a similar - let me show you how not gay I am - vibe.
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I just had to look this up...kalm wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:33 pmOh. Let me explain. Using the term beta is similar to using the r-word. It displays some amount of insecurity in the speaker.
Jesse Watters is a Fox host who has stated men shouldn’t eat soup in public or drink milkshakes from a straw as it’s not manly.
JD Vance gives off a similar - let me show you how not gay I am - vibe.
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Watters tries way too hard, but (to normal people) was obviously making an unfunny joke when he said that. I'm soooo shocked you took what he said literally.
Vance gives you similar 'let me show you how not gay I am' vibes as Walz? I can see why you would have those vibes, but when Walz tries, it only makes him look even more gayer than he already does.
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problem with Timmy Walz is not that he's gay, it's that he hates America and sucks China chong
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problem with donny trump is not that he's gay, it's that he only cares about himself and he sucks putin’s dong
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Elon Musk's Credibility Sinking as He's Caught in Web of Lies
Strikingly, OpenAI has the receipts. The wealth of incriminating documents included in the countersuit form what Electrek is calling Musk's "web of lies" surrounding his attempts to assume control over OpenAI is coming to light — and raises the question of how much damage Musk's credibility can stand as his fibs and dubious timelines start to sound more like PT Barnum than Steve Jobs.
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We all are well too informed on your "half man substitute" routine. Until you can step up as a real man, stand aside.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:05 am I find it humorous that MAQA yahoos like to call trump's male opponents "betas" when trump is such an insecure twat that he requires his supporters to surrender their balls and spines and swear absolute loyalty. Can't allow dissenting opinions or anything that might make the fragile snowflake look bad.
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You’re projecting again.SeattleGriz wrote:We all are well too informed on your "half man substitute" routine. Until you can step up as a real man, stand aside.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:05 am I find it humorous that MAQA yahoos like to call trump's male opponents "betas" when trump is such an insecure twat that he requires his supporters to surrender their balls and spines and swear absolute loyalty. Can't allow dissenting opinions or anything that might make the fragile snowflake look bad.
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