The Ukraine Crisis

[SDHornet]

Haven't kept up closely on this war since the Russians started grinding out territory and chewing up Ukrainian bodies this past year. Has the tide turned in Ukraine's favor or is this thing over yet?

With the election a week away, just a reminder that this war is on the hands of the Biden-Harris Admin (and Obama as his girl Nuland sowed the seeds for this thing) and anyone that voted for them. A vote for Harris is a vote for continuation of this bloodshed. Hopefully Trump wins and brings an end to this needless war.

Why its none other than Surrender Monkey himself...welcome back, son...

Surrender on what exactly?

[SDHornet]

Their are no solutions

Only compromise

Simple

Now we know Chang and Eng are heavily invested in the military industrial complex and why they hate Trump

The funding is leverage and the author of "Art of the Deal" should use it to his advantage. We should keep funding Ukraine until putin agrees to a compromise. If doneOLD wins and pulls the funding before a deal is signed, all of the deaths that follow will be on him and other MAQA yahoos like you and Dingleberry.

Nah, all the Ukrainian blood is firmly on Biden and his supporters. Nothing ever changes that.

[UNI88]

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The funding is leverage and the author of "Art of the Deal" should use it to his advantage. We should keep funding Ukraine until putin agrees to a compromise. If doneOLD wins and pulls the funding before a deal is signed, all of the deaths that follow will be on him and other MAQA yahoos like you and Dingleberry.

Nah, all the Ukrainian blood is firmly on Biden and his supporters. Nothing ever changes that.

Nope.

If doneOLD wins and he pulls Ukraine's funding without negotiating a "compromise" peace with putin and putin proceeds to slog across Ukraine killing soldiers and civilians then DONEold owns it and all of those deaths will be on him and people who voted for him.

You don't get to have it both ways.

[Caribbean Hen]

Their are no solutions

Only compromise

Simple

Now we know Chang and Eng are heavily invested in the military industrial complex and why they hate Trump

The MI Complex has nothing to do with why I detest his bloated, festering, syphilitic ass.

Biden wasn’t fat

[Skjellyfetti]

Russia is a terrorist state

https://archive.ph/2Tg74

[kalm]

Russia is a terrorist state

https://archive.ph/2Tg74

With a ton at stake with this election.

[Caribbean Hen]

Russia is a terrorist state

https://archive.ph/2Tg74

With a ton at stake with this election.

You bet and they are desperate for Scamala to win

[GannonFan]

Russia is a terrorist state

https://archive.ph/2Tg74

With a ton at stake with this election.

I'm not sure how much, in the long term, this election is going to really matter regarding Russia and Ukraine. I know Trump has said he'll stop funding and make them (Ukraine) come to agreement that would in all likelihood add land to what was already lost with the Crimean annexation. If Harris is elected, at some point she would have to deal with the idea that it's unsustainable to continue fighting this war at the dollar amount it would take to fight it at a standstill, let alone what it would take to actually eject Russia from the occupied areas. We could try to sanction Russia for real this time, as opposed to the mostly for show version that we did under Biden, but neither President-elect would be willing to risk a calamitous sharp increase in petroleum costs that would accompany actually cutting off Russia's pretty much untouched oil business. And besides the shock to the worldwide economy, there would be the real risk of an escalation of arms if we did that.

Russia has a pretty decent hand they're playing right now, at least as it regards holding onto the eastern portion of Ukraine (and again the Crimea part they took without pushback back in 2014), and they have that hand because we're not willing to do something that would potentially put us in harms way, i.e. risking skyrocketing oil prices if we actually tried to stop all Russian oil or committing our own troops to the fight. No one we elect today is really going to change that calculus.

[SeattleGriz]

Russia is a terrorist state

https://archive.ph/2Tg74

Once again. Where were you when Ukraine was killing it's own people who wanted autonomy? Why weren't you up there n arms with the US and UK scuttling peace talks at the very beginning?

[SDHornet]

Best part of the Trump victory, besides all the shitlib tears, is that this war can finally come to an end.

[SeattleGriz]

Posted this map about a year and a half ago about how I thought it would end up.

[Caribbean Hen]

“Russian President Vladimir Putin has congratulated Donald Trump on his election victory, saying he is ready to engage with the United States.

The Kremlin leader made the remarks during a policy forum in Sochi, Russia, on Thursday. Answering questions at the end of a lengthy speech, Putin said he wanted to "take this opportunity to congratulate [Trump] on his election as president of the United States."

When asked by a forum moderator if he was ready for discussions with Trump, Putin responded: "We are ready."

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/07/nx-s1-51 ... gage-trump

[Caribbean Hen]

Pelosi and Lizzy selling their War stocks

[UNI88]

Genocide stock call options are up.


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[GannonFan]

Posted this map about a year and a half ago about how I thought it would end up.

Nah, that's way too generous to Russia - that's about 2x what they have right now. Ukraine isn't giving up all access to the Black Sea to become a landlocked nation. Russia will have to be content with holding onto Crimea, having land access to it now, and the far eastern provinces they've had military and militia in for about a decade now. They're not getting more land they haven't even occupied.

[kalm]

“Russian President Vladimir Putin has congratulated Donald Trump on his election victory, saying he is ready to engage with the United States.

The Kremlin leader made the remarks during a policy forum in Sochi, Russia, on Thursday. Answering questions at the end of a lengthy speech, Putin said he wanted to "take this opportunity to congratulate [Trump] on his election as president of the United States."

When asked by a forum moderator if he was ready for discussions with Trump, Putin responded: "We are ready."

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/07/nx-s1-51 ... gage-trump

Maybe he should involve the leader of the nation he has invaded and terrorized.

[UNI88]

Posted this map about a year and a half ago about how I thought it would end up.

Nah, that's way too generous to Russia - that's about 2x what they have right now. Ukraine isn't giving up all access to the Black Sea to become a landlocked nation. Russia will have to be content with holding onto Crimea, having land access to it now, and the far eastern provinces they've had military and militia in for about a decade now. They're not getting more land they haven't even occupied.

Does Ukraine get to keep the portions of Kursk that they control?


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[houndawg]

With a ton at stake with this election.

I'm not sure how much, in the long term, this election is going to really matter regarding Russia and Ukraine. I know Trump has said he'll stop funding and make them (Ukraine) come to agreement that would in all likelihood add land to what was already lost with the Crimean annexation. If Harris is elected, at some point she would have to deal with the idea that it's unsustainable to continue fighting this war at the dollar amount it would take to fight it at a standstill, let alone what it would take to actually eject Russia from the occupied areas. We could try to sanction Russia for real this time, as opposed to the mostly for show version that we did under Biden, but neither President-elect would be willing to risk a calamitous sharp increase in petroleum costs that would accompany actually cutting off Russia's pretty much untouched oil business. And besides the shock to the worldwide economy, there would be the real risk of an escalation of arms if we did that.

Russia has a pretty decent hand they're playing right now, at least as it regards holding onto the eastern portion of Ukraine (and again the Crimea part they took without pushback back in 2014), and they have that hand because we're not willing to do something that would potentially put us in harms way, i.e. risking skyrocketing oil prices if we actually tried to stop all Russian oil or committing our own troops to the fight. No one we elect today is really going to change that calculus.

Hiring mercenaries is never a good sign for the side that is doing it, ask Rome. Don't know if you're old enough to remember the collapse of the Soviet Union - on Friday there was a CCCP and on Monday the Berlin Wall was coming down. Spending them into oblivion again is doable and the last count of dead Russians I heard was closing in on 700,000. We have a chance to put that little prick and his paper tiger Army away and we should take it.

[houndawg]

Best part of the Trump victory, besides all the shitlib tears, is that this war can finally come to an end.

Putin beating the fuck out of Trump politicly, again, he's already changed the script to he and Trump deciding the fate of Uktaine. Way past time for Joe to tlet them ake the gloves off

[Caribbean Hen]

Best part of the Trump victory, besides all the shitlib tears, is that this war can finally come to an end.

Putin beating the fuck out of Trump politicly, again, he's already changed the script to he and Trump deciding the fate of Uktaine. Way past time for Joe to tlet them ake the gloves off

Biden can’t even take his Depends off

C’mon man Biden has been a complete failure

[BDKJMU]

I'm not sure how much, in the long term, this election is going to really matter regarding Russia and Ukraine. I know Trump has said he'll stop funding and make them (Ukraine) come to agreement that would in all likelihood add land to what was already lost with the Crimean annexation. If Harris is elected, at some point she would have to deal with the idea that it's unsustainable to continue fighting this war at the dollar amount it would take to fight it at a standstill, let alone what it would take to actually eject Russia from the occupied areas. We could try to sanction Russia for real this time, as opposed to the mostly for show version that we did under Biden, but neither President-elect would be willing to risk a calamitous sharp increase in petroleum costs that would accompany actually cutting off Russia's pretty much untouched oil business. And besides the shock to the worldwide economy, there would be the real risk of an escalation of arms if we did that.

Russia has a pretty decent hand they're playing right now, at least as it regards holding onto the eastern portion of Ukraine (and again the Crimea part they took without pushback back in 2014), and they have that hand because we're not willing to do something that would potentially put us in harms way, i.e. risking skyrocketing oil prices if we actually tried to stop all Russian oil or committing our own troops to the fight. No one we elect today is really going to change that calculus.

Hiring mercenaries is never a good sign for the side that is doing it, ask Rome. Don't know if you're old enough to remember the collapse of the Soviet Union - on Friday there was a CCCP and on Monday the Berlin Wall was coming down. Spending them into oblivion again is doable and the last count of dead Russians I heard was closing in on 700,000. We have a chance to put that little prick and his paper tiger Army away and we should take it.

That is nothing. WWII Soviets suffered ballpark 25 million dead, 10 million military.

[SeattleGriz]

I'm not sure how much, in the long term, this election is going to really matter regarding Russia and Ukraine. I know Trump has said he'll stop funding and make them (Ukraine) come to agreement that would in all likelihood add land to what was already lost with the Crimean annexation. If Harris is elected, at some point she would have to deal with the idea that it's unsustainable to continue fighting this war at the dollar amount it would take to fight it at a standstill, let alone what it would take to actually eject Russia from the occupied areas. We could try to sanction Russia for real this time, as opposed to the mostly for show version that we did under Biden, but neither President-elect would be willing to risk a calamitous sharp increase in petroleum costs that would accompany actually cutting off Russia's pretty much untouched oil business. And besides the shock to the worldwide economy, there would be the real risk of an escalation of arms if we did that.

Russia has a pretty decent hand they're playing right now, at least as it regards holding onto the eastern portion of Ukraine (and again the Crimea part they took without pushback back in 2014), and they have that hand because we're not willing to do something that would potentially put us in harms way, i.e. risking skyrocketing oil prices if we actually tried to stop all Russian oil or committing our own troops to the fight. No one we elect today is really going to change that calculus.

Hiring mercenaries is never a good sign for the side that is doing it, ask Rome. Don't know if you're old enough to remember the collapse of the Soviet Union - on Friday there was a CCCP and on Monday the Berlin Wall was coming down. Spending them into oblivion again is doable and the last count of dead Russians I heard was closing in on 700,000. We have a chance to put that little prick and his paper tiger Army away and we should take it.

And how was this quantified? Must be using Cid's super secret OSINT sources like Bellingcat and Institute of War.