All Things California

[houndawg]

Its not just ‘a little more for bacon’, but rather huge price increases which could eventually spread nationwide. And newsflash, pork is a lot more than just bacon.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bacon ... uxbndlbing
But I guess its screw all those large amounts of pork consuming lower & middle income folks..

You (not you personally, the understood you) really have to come to the conclusion that these environmental policies, while they mean well, ultimately will lead to massive disruptions and difficulties for businesses and the population at large and therefore aren't well thought out. I'm all for protecting our environment and leaving the world better, cleaner, healthier for the next generation. I understand there's some hell to go through before you get to heaven...but it seems that more times than not politicians seriously lack big picture thinking.

The cascading effect will be that people won't pay $3 more for a pack of bacon. Bacon (and other pork products) don't sell. Distributors stop buy so much. Farmers can't sell to them.

In the end, Farmer's can't bring home the bacon b/c they can't sell it.

They'll pay. They'll have to - the Chinese will buy all the pork we want to sell them.

Get some land, bro. Sooner rather than later.

[UNI88]

You (not you personally, the understood you) really have to come to the conclusion that these environmental policies, while they mean well, ultimately will lead to massive disruptions and difficulties for businesses and the population at large and therefore aren't well thought out. I'm all for protecting our environment and leaving the world better, cleaner, healthier for the next generation. I understand there's some hell to go through before you get to heaven...but it seems that more times than not politicians seriously lack big picture thinking.

The cascading effect will be that people won't pay $3 more for a pack of bacon. Bacon (and other pork products) don't sell. Distributors stop buy so much. Farmers can't sell to them.

In the end, Farmer's can't bring home the bacon b/c they can't sell it.

They'll pay. They'll have to - the Chinese will buy all the pork we want to sell them.

Get some land, bro. Sooner rather than later.

Or maybe we just need a limited number of hog farms that meet those requirements and can supply California. Californians can pay the extra costs themselves rather than having people in other states underwrite the costs of their programs.

[Winterborn]

They'll pay. They'll have to - the Chinese will buy all the pork we want to sell them.

Get some land, bro. Sooner rather than later.

Or maybe we just need a limited number of hog farms that meet those requirements and can supply California. Californians can pay the extra costs themselves rather than having people in other states underwrite the costs of their programs.

Either way they will have to find enough power to keep the refrigerators running. Pork spoils fast.

[SDHornet]

CA is using the delta variant as a reason to roll out mass in-mail ballots again. Looks like Newsom will retain power via cheating.

Sore loser. Just like the election.

Oh, so you think everything was above board, and will be for the recall, with millions of ballots floating around. That's cute.

[SDHornet]

Yeah, the recall vote won't be rigged at all.

[houndawg]

Sore loser. Just like the election.

Oh, so you think everything was above board, and will be for the recall, with millions of ballots floating around. That's cute.

You problem is that you don't realize that your opinion is a minority one.

[houndawg]

They'll pay. They'll have to - the Chinese will buy all the pork we want to sell them.

Get some land, bro. Sooner rather than later.

Or maybe we just need a limited number of hog farms that meet those requirements and can supply California. Californians can pay the extra costs themselves rather than having people in other states underwrite the costs of their programs.

they can trade for fresh veggies in the winter.

Two hogs for a tomato.

[AZGrizFan]

Or maybe we just need a limited number of hog farms that meet those requirements and can supply California. Californians can pay the extra costs themselves rather than having people in other states underwrite the costs of their programs.

they can trade for fresh veggies in the winter.

Two hogs for a tomato.

California doesn’t have the water to grow a tomato anymore.

[SDHornet]

Oh, so you think everything was above board, and will be for the recall, with millions of ballots floating around. That's cute.

You problem is that you don't realize that your opinion is a minority one.

Minority one or not, it's the right one.

[houndawg]

You problem is that you don't realize that your opinion is a minority one.

Minority one or not, it's the right one.

Its like Chris Christie said - "...at some point you have to present your evidence or shut up."

[houndawg]

they can trade for fresh veggies in the winter.

Two hogs for a tomato.

California doesn’t have the water to grow a tomato anymore.

You aren't in a very good spot climate-wise and you'd be smart to haul ass while the haulin is good.

[AZGrizFan]

California doesn’t have the water to grow a tomato anymore.

You aren't in a very good spot climate-wise and you'd be smart to haul ass while the haulin is good.

I'm not in California.

[SDHornet]

Minority one or not, it's the right one.

Its like Chris Christie said - "...at some point you have to present your evidence or shut up."

Don't need any. See post 2016 election, or any of the weak ass impeachment narratives thereafter.

[SuperHornet]

The Lodi Post Office (in San Joaquin County) has posted signs enforcing a mask mandate...a mandate ordered by the Chief Health Officer of LOS ANGELES County.

Only in Cali....

[houndawg]

You aren't in a very good spot climate-wise and you'd be smart to haul ass while the haulin is good.

I'm not in California.

If you're west of the Mississippi your shit is weak unless your up in northen Minnesota or the Great Lakes

[houndawg]

Its like Chris Christie said - "...at some point you have to present your evidence or shut up."

Don't need any. See post 2016 election, or any of the weak ass impeachment narratives thereafter.

[houndawg]

Or maybe we just need a limited number of hog farms that meet those requirements and can supply California. Californians can pay the extra costs themselves rather than having people in other states underwrite the costs of their programs.

Either way they will have to find enough power to keep the refrigerators running. Pork spoils fast.

Not if you have a smokehouse.

[AZGrizFan]

Its like Chris Christie said - "...at some point you have to present your evidence or shut up."

Don't need any. See post 2016 election, or any of the weak ass impeachment narratives thereafter.

[SDHornet]

Gavin's actions are recognizing that progressive policies that turned a largely minority populated city into a literal crime infested shithole is not good optics heading into a recall election in a month.

[Ibanez]

Gavin's actions are recognizing that progressive policies that turned a largely minority populated city into a literal crime infested shithole is not good optics heading into a recall election in a month.

Well it's a bit late for that realization, isn't it?

There is obviously a happy medium. Full R and D suck. Look at SC - shitty roads/infrastructure/shitty schools (somehow we landed in one of the best school districts, thank gawd). "low" taxes but you're taxed on everything and we have nothing to show for it. But HEY - we've got a deep port, boiled peanuts and are "pro-business."

We don't have homeless shitting all over the sidewalks so I guess that's something.

Want to know a fun fact? I'm not sure if this is still the case and CID might chime in but there was a time when a several cities and counties used to collect homeless people and bus them to Georgia. Lot of homeless people in Savannah come from Charleston, Beaufort/Hilton Head area.

[Winterborn]

Either way they will have to find enough power to keep the refrigerators running. Pork spoils fast.

Not if you have a smokehouse.

Don't you know smoking meat causes cancer? No amount of avocado can overcome that.

[BDKJMU]

Gavin's actions are recognizing that progressive policies that turned a largely minority populated city into a literal crime infested shithole is not good optics heading into a recall election in a month.

Well it's a bit late for that realization, isn't it?

There is obviously a happy medium. Full R and D suck. Look at SC - shitty roads/infrastructure/shitty schools (somehow we landed in one of the best school districts, thank gawd). "low" taxes but you're taxed on everything and we have nothing to show for it. But HEY - we've got a deep port, boiled peanuts and are "pro-business."

We don't have homeless shitting all over the sidewalks so I guess that's something.

Want to know a fun fact? I'm not sure if this is still the case and CID might chime in but there was a time when a several cities and counties used to collect homeless people and bus them to Georgia. Lot of homeless people in Savannah come from Charleston, Beaufort/Hilton Head area.

Then why aren’t you living across the state line in NC, since that’s where you work? Let me guess, because SC has lower taxes?

[Ibanez]

Well it's a bit late for that realization, isn't it?

There is obviously a happy medium. Full R and D suck. Look at SC - shitty roads/infrastructure/shitty schools (somehow we landed in one of the best school districts, thank gawd). "low" taxes but you're taxed on everything and we have nothing to show for it. But HEY - we've got a deep port, boiled peanuts and are "pro-business."

We don't have homeless shitting all over the sidewalks so I guess that's something.

Want to know a fun fact? I'm not sure if this is still the case and CID might chime in but there was a time when a several cities and counties used to collect homeless people and bus them to Georgia. Lot of homeless people in Savannah come from Charleston, Beaufort/Hilton Head area.

Then why aren’t you living across the state line in NC, since that’s where you work? Let me guess, because SC has lower taxes?

Not exactly - for all it's problems, SC is home. I love the state but let's not pretend that Republicans (or Democrats for that matter) are the super duper best and only do the super duper best. Let's not be naïve. Both have good and bad policies.


The main reason is that housing is cheaper and the school district in SC is actually better than the one in the Peoples Republic of North Carolina. My house in the "affordable" areas of Charlotte would be nearly double the price - it's absurd.

Your guess is wrong...but valid.

[BDKJMU]

Then why aren’t you living across the state line in NC, since that’s where you work? Let me guess, because SC has lower taxes?

Not exactly - for all it's problems, SC is home. I love the state but let's not pretend that Republicans (or Democrats for that matter) are the super duper best and only do the super duper best. Let's not be naïve. Both have good and bad policies.


The main reason is that housing is cheaper and the school district in SC is actually better than the one in the Peoples Republic of North Carolina. My house in the "affordable" areas of Charlotte would be nearly double the price - it's absurd.

Your guess is wrong...but valid.

Ok, I should have said lower cost of living instead of lower taxes (which usually plays a part).

I know that’s common around state border areas that people will work in one/live in the other due to lower cost of living, often in part due to lower taxes.

Tax Foundation per capaita doesn’t show a yuge diff between NC (32nd) and SC (40th).
https://taxfoundation.org/publications/ ... %20rows%20
I realize it can vary a lot beyween localities within a state..

[UNI88]

Not exactly - for all it's problems, SC is home. I love the state but let's not pretend that Republicans (or Democrats for that matter) are the super duper best and only do the super duper best. Let's not be naïve. Both have good and bad policies.

The main reason is that housing is cheaper and the school district in SC is actually better than the one in the Peoples Republic of North Carolina. My house in the "affordable" areas of Charlotte would be nearly double the price - it's absurd.

Your guess is wrong...but valid.

Ok, I should have said lower cost of living instead of lower taxes (which usually plays a part).

I know that’s common around state border areas that people will work in one/live in the other due to lower cost of living, often in part due to lower taxes.

Tax Foundation per capaita doesn’t show a yuge diff between NC (32nd) and SC (40th).
https://taxfoundation.org/publications/ ... %20rows%20
I realize it can vary a lot beyween localities within a state..

Ibanez, who taxes your income?

Oregon taxes employees for income earned while in Oregon so if you work in Oregon but live in Washington (no income taxes) you pay Oregon income taxes. My understanding is that it is based off of where you are physically working so If you worked from home in Washington during the pandemic you would avoid those income taxes despite your employer being located in Oregon.

When I was in Illinois, we had an employee who lived in Indiana and we deducted Indiana income taxes from their pay.

I'm curious how other states with cross-border employment handle it.