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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:18 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:14 am

I guess Zelensky shouldn’t have started that war.

Exactly. He never should have listened to the guy you voted for, Biden.
So Zalensky started the war! Nice one, trollapotamus. :lol:
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kalm wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:04 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:18 pm

Exactly. He never should have listened to the guy you voted for, Biden.
So Zalensky started the war! Nice one, trollapotamus. :lol:
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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:18 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:14 am

I guess Zelensky shouldn’t have started that war.

Exactly. He never should have listened to the guy you voted for, Biden.
I don't think Biden pushed for a war. Biden's biggest blunder here was not deterring Putin from invading in the first place. There was gobs of time in the buildup to this, this didn't happen overnight. What didn't work was diplomacy from the US side to give Putin pause enough not to launch this attack. People will argue too that the chaotic Afghanistan withdraw, also under Biden, undercut our ability to project deterrence.
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kalm wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:04 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:18 pm

Exactly. He never should have listened to the guy you voted for, Biden.
So Zalensky started the war! Nice one, trollapotamus. :lol:
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GannonFan wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 7:08 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:18 pm

Exactly. He never should have listened to the guy you voted for, Biden.
I don't think Biden pushed for a war. Biden's biggest blunder here was not deterring Putin from invading in the first place. There was gobs of time in the buildup to this, this didn't happen overnight. What didn't work was diplomacy from the US side to give Putin pause enough not to launch this attack. People will argue too that the chaotic Afghanistan withdraw, also under Biden, undercut our ability to project deterrence.
The way I remember it, everybody, and I mean everybody, right down to the people in the coffee shops in Kyiv, was still calling it sabre rattling right up until tanks crossed the border
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houndawg wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:46 am
GannonFan wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 7:08 am

I don't think Biden pushed for a war. Biden's biggest blunder here was not deterring Putin from invading in the first place. There was gobs of time in the buildup to this, this didn't happen overnight. What didn't work was diplomacy from the US side to give Putin pause enough not to launch this attack. People will argue too that the chaotic Afghanistan withdraw, also under Biden, undercut our ability to project deterrence.
The way I remember it, everybody, and I mean everybody, right down to the people in the coffee shops in Kyiv, was still calling it sabre rattling right up until tanks crossed the border
I don't necessarily disagree, but then again, the President of the US isn't really everybody. He's got access to a lot more information than anyone in a Kyiv coffee shop would. It comes with the job, and I'm sure it's not an easy one, but he was certainly trying to diplomatically keep Putin from invading Ukraine and in the end wasn't successful. None of this absolves Putin from doing what he did, but this was also far from Biden's finest hour, assuming he had one.
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The invasion got the big green light when Putin was watching JoBozos horrible withdrawal from Afghanistan

Nothing was changing after Biden’s gross incompetence
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:35 pm The invasion got the big green light when Putin was watching JoBozos horrible withdrawal from Afghanistan

Nothing was changing after Biden’s gross incompetence
That wasn't helpful, but we still could've done more to deter Putin had we been cognizant of the fact that the Afghanistan withdraw did indeed impact the way other countries perceived us and our trustworthiness. We pretended that it didn't, though, and it undermined our diplomacy, to Ukraine's, and the world's, detriment.
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 1:17 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:35 pm The invasion got the big green light when Putin was watching JoBozos horrible withdrawal from Afghanistan

Nothing was changing after Biden’s gross incompetence
That wasn't helpful, but we still could've done more to deter Putin had we been cognizant of the fact that the Afghanistan withdraw did indeed impact the way other countries perceived us and our trustworthiness. We pretended that it didn't, though, and it undermined our diplomacy, to Ukraine's, and the world's, detriment.
The sad thing is, other than 14 military members getting blown up, Biden probably doesn’t know shit about what happened in Afghanistan. An autopen stooge propped up on stage by the incompetent radicals … horrible 4 years
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True, he was in charge when he killed those guys so its on him even though we all know it was Obama being that inept.
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Good question here which applies to all of MAGA incuding a few on this board.

I’m a nice guy so I’m gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and go with functionally illiterate.

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DSUrocks07 wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:30 am Not a MAGA concept, just facts.Image

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kalm wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:22 am Good question here which applies to all of MAGA incuding a few on this board.

I’m a nice guy so I’m gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and go with functionally illiterate.

Add this to her comment that communists are selling their stocks to hurt trump and I'm going with Dumber than a Box of Rocks.

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UNI88 wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 9:20 am
kalm wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:22 am Good question here which applies to all of MAGA incuding a few on this board.

I’m a nice guy so I’m gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and go with functionally illiterate.

Add this to her comment that communists are selling their stocks to hurt trump and I'm going with Dumber than a Box of Rocks.

marge makes Rep. maxine waters look like a rocket scientist.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 4:43 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 9:20 am

Add this to her comment that communists are selling their stocks to hurt trump and I'm going with Dumber than a Box of Rocks.

marge makes Rep. maxine waters look like a rocket scientist.
When someone brags ‘I am the leading scholar of that subject in North America‘ they are full of themselvesy
The Marge should keep her pie hole shut for once, listen, and try to learn something as best as she can despite her intellectual deficits. :lol:
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 4:43 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 9:20 am
Add this to her comment that communists are selling their stocks to hurt trump and I'm going with Dumber than a Box of Rocks.

marge makes Rep. maxine waters look like a rocket scientist.
When someone brags ‘I am the leading scholar of that subject in North America‘ they are full of themselvesy
That approach applies just as well when someone brags that:
  • “No one is more conservative than me.”
  • “No one respects women more than me."
  • "No one reads the Bible more than me.”
  • “There’s nobody that’s done so much for equality as I have.”
  • “There’s nobody who feels more strongly about women’s health issues.”
  • “Nobody knows more about taxes than me, maybe in the history of the world.”
  • “Nobody’s ever been more successful than me."
  • “Nobody knows banking better than I do.”
  • “Nobody’s bigger or better at the military I am.”
  • “I am the least racist person you’ll ever meet.”
  • “Nobody knows the system better than me.”
  • “Nobody knows more about trade than me.”
Dr. Snyder probably has a stronger claim to his statement than trump does to his.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 5:55 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 4:43 pm
When someone brags ‘I am the leading scholar of that subject in North America‘ they are full of themselvesy
That approach applies just as well when someone brags that:
  • “No one is more conservative than me.”
  • “No one respects women more than me."
  • "No one reads the Bible more than me.”
  • “There’s nobody that’s done so much for equality as I have.”
  • “There’s nobody who feels more strongly about women’s health issues.”
  • “Nobody knows more about taxes than me, maybe in the history of the world.”
  • “Nobody’s ever been more successful than me."
  • “Nobody knows banking better than I do.”
  • “Nobody’s bigger or better at the military I am.”
  • “I am the least racist person you’ll ever meet.”
  • “Nobody knows the system better than me.”
  • “Nobody knows more about trade than me.”
Dr. Snyder probably has a stronger claim to his statement than trump does to his.
Lol I don‘t think Snyder was engaging in hyperbole or trolling.
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kalm wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 5:12 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 4:43 pm
When someone brags ‘I am the leading scholar of that subject in North America‘ they are full of themselvesy
The Marge should keep her pie hole shut for once, listen, and try to learn something as best as she can despite her intellectual deficits. :lol:
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:31 am
kalm wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 5:12 pm

The Marge should keep her pie hole shut for once, listen, and try to learn something as best as she can despite her intellectual deficits. :lol:
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I would guess that “Vladimir STOP” are 2 of the least imaginative safe words in the history of BDSM.


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