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Ibanez wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:53 am
HI54UNI wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:43 am If it is too dangerous for teachers and students to go back to school because of the inability to social distance in classrooms for 8 hours per day why is it OK to put daycare providers and kids at risk by forcing those same kids to go to daycare for 8 hours per day in facilities that are unable to provide social distance?
Those kids will be in kennels. DUH.



Seriously - good question. There are too many exceptions to the rule that really make you wonder what the hell to believe.
And NY’s solution to no schools? Dump all the kids into “community centers” with wardens so the parents can go to work. Now, WTF exactly is the difference between a school and a “community center”?
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:00 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:20 am

Is this study from 2018? How far can you spit with a mask on compared to no mask? Common sense if you sneeze into a mask, less particals are arosolized than if you sneeze into thin air. It's common knowledge mask don't stop all virus from becoming arosolized. They prevent less particals and reduce spread.
Gil, do you think people are wearing masks to keep from getting sick, or to keep THEM from getting others sick?

95% of people I guarantee it’s option A. And masks do nothing for option A.
There is evidence that they reduce the risk of infection for those wearing them too.

We...are...still...learning.
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kalm wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:16 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:00 am

Gil, do you think people are wearing masks to keep from getting sick, or to keep THEM from getting others sick?

95% of people I guarantee it’s option A. And masks do nothing for option A.
There is evidence that they reduce the risk of infection for those wearing them too.

We...are...still...learning.
Learning is a journey not a destination. :coffee:

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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:00 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:20 am

Is this study from 2018? How far can you spit with a mask on compared to no mask? Common sense if you sneeze into a mask, less particals are arosolized than if you sneeze into thin air. It's common knowledge mask don't stop all virus from becoming arosolized. They prevent less particals and reduce spread.
Gil, do you think people are wearing masks to keep from getting sick, or to keep THEM from getting others sick?

95% of people I guarantee it’s option A. And masks do nothing for option A.
Option A is minuscule if no one else is wearing a mask, but that's not the point. The point is, if everyone is wearing masks in difficult to maintain social distancing area's, the spread is reduced.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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Winterborn wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:25 am
kalm wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:16 am

There is evidence that they reduce the risk of infection for those wearing them too.

We...are...still...learning.
Learning is a journey not a destination. :coffee:

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kalm wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:18 am
Winterborn wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:25 am

Learning is a journey not a destination. :coffee:

;)
Why you son of a bitch! :notworthy:

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A good quote. :D
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Winterborn wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:41 am
kalm wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:18 am

Why you son of a bitch! :notworthy:

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A good quote. :D
Hey, Winterborn, your siggy is great, but Joe Biden is the obvious exception to the Louis L’Amour rule. ;)
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Ivytalk wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:17 am
Winterborn wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:41 am

:nod:

A good quote. :D
Hey, Winterborn, your siggy is great, but Joe Biden is the obvious exception to the Louis L’Amour rule. ;)
There are a few exceptions to that rule. :thumb:

And sometimes I fall into the same boat. :whistle:
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Winterborn wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:29 am
Ivytalk wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:17 am

Hey, Winterborn, your siggy is great, but Joe Biden is the obvious exception to the Louis L’Amour rule. ;)
There are a few exceptions to that rule. :thumb:

And sometimes I fall into the same boat. :whistle:
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Ivytalk wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:33 am
Winterborn wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:29 am

There are a few exceptions to that rule. :thumb:

And sometimes I fall into the same boat. :whistle:
That’s one of the privileges of senior status! :grizo1:
I just blame it on that the hard drive is full and not my age. :lol:
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Ivytalk wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:17 am
Winterborn wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:41 am

:nod:

A good quote. :D
Hey, Winterborn, your siggy is great, but Joe Biden is the obvious exception to the Louis L’Amour rule. ;)
Is that an old person thing? I had to look up who Louis L’Amour even was. What's the rule?
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:40 am
Ivytalk wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:17 am

Hey, Winterborn, your siggy is great, but Joe Biden is the obvious exception to the Louis L’Amour rule. ;)
Is that an old person thing? I had to look up who Louis L’Amour even was. What's the rule?
It’s in his siggy. More an aphorism than a rule. But you know that, because you graduated college. 8-)
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:40 am
Ivytalk wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:17 am

Hey, Winterborn, your siggy is great, but Joe Biden is the obvious exception to the Louis L’Amour rule. ;)
Is that an old person thing? I had to look up who Louis L’Amour even was. What's the rule?
You have to be from North Dakota.
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:40 am
Ivytalk wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:17 am

Hey, Winterborn, your siggy is great, but Joe Biden is the obvious exception to the Louis L’Amour rule. ;)
Is that an old person thing? I had to look up who Louis L’Amour even was. What's the rule?
My father loved Louis L'Amour novels. I've got about a dozen at the house that I keep saying i'm going to read.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:15 am
GannonFan wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:40 am

Is that an old person thing? I had to look up who Louis L’Amour even was. What's the rule?
My father loved Louis L'Amour novels. I've got about a dozen at the house that I keep saying i'm going to read.
I’ve read dozens of L’Amour novels....great quick reads...
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:23 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:15 am

My father loved Louis L'Amour novels. I've got about a dozen at the house that I keep saying i'm going to read.
I’ve read dozens of L’Amour novels....great quick reads...
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:23 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:15 am
My father loved Louis L'Amour novels. I've got about a dozen at the house that I keep saying i'm going to read.
I’ve read dozens of L’Amour novels....great quick reads...
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:23 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:15 am

My father loved Louis L'Amour novels. I've got about a dozen at the house that I keep saying i'm going to read.
I’ve read dozens of L’Amour novels....great quick reads...
That they are. I have read them all, some a dozen times. Have many memories of baling hay and packing a book to read during the breaks.


GF - Here is the quote in question: “The best of all things is to learn. Money can be lost or stolen, health and strength may fail, but what you have committed to your mind is yours forever.” – Louis L’Amour
“The best of all things is to learn. Money can be lost or stolen, health and strength may fail, but what you have committed to your mind is yours forever.” – Louis L’Amour

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Interesting thing about Louis L'Amour is the places he described in his books existed and not just the locations but topography as well. He did his research and had a library of over 10,000 books that he referenced and read.

From his Wikipedia page:
Louis Dearborn LaMoore was born in Jamestown, North Dakota, in 1908, the seventh child of Dr. Louis Charles LaMoore and Emily Dearborn LaMoore. He was of French-Canadian[3] ancestry through his father and Irish through his mother. Dr. LaMoore was a large-animal veterinarian, local politician and farm-equipment broker who had arrived in Dakota Territory in 1882.

Although the area around Jamestown was mostly farm land, cowboys and livestock often traveled through Jamestown on their way to or from ranches in Montana and the markets to the east. LaMoore played "Cowboys and Indians" in the family barn, which served as his father's veterinary hospital, and spent much of his free time at the local library, the Alfred E. Dickey Free Library, reading, particularly G. A. Henty, a British author of historical boys' novels during the late nineteenth century. L'Amour once said, "[Henty's works] enabled me to go into school with a great deal of knowledge that even my teachers didn't have about wars and politics."

After a series of bank failures devastated the economy of the upper Midwest, Dr. LaMoore and Emily took to the road. Removing Louis and his adopted brother John from school, they headed south in the winter of 1923. Over the next seven or eight years, they skinned cattle in west Texas, baled hay in the Pecos Valley of New Mexico, worked in the mines of Arizona, California and Nevada, and in the sawmills and lumber camps of the Pacific Northwest. It was in colorful places like these that Louis met a wide variety of people, upon whom he later modeled the characters in his novels, many of them actual Old West personalities who had survived into the nineteen-twenties and -thirties.

Making his way as a mine assessment worker, professional boxer and merchant seaman, Louis traveled the country and the world, sometimes with his family, sometimes not. He visited all of the western states plus England, Japan, China, Borneo, the Dutch East Indies, Arabia, Egypt, and Panama, finally moving with his parents to Choctaw, Oklahoma in the early 1930s. There, he changed his name to Louis L'Amour and settled down to try to make something of himself as a writer.[4]
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It’s really, really sad that somebody like GF has zero clue who Louis L’Amour is/was.
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“The best of all things is to learn. Money can be lost or stolen, health and strength may fail, but what you have committed to your mind is yours forever.” – Louis L’Amour

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Winterborn wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:51 am A bit more on his life.

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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:45 am It’s really, really sad that somebody like GF has zero clue who Louis L’Amour is/was.
Dad was a fan and something about the books resonated with me growing up. I have tried to take something he suggested (reading) and apply it to my life. Mom thought it was funny (and the nurse shocked) but the first thing I asked for when I cam out of anesthesia from getting my wisdom teeth removed was a book.

Some of our most influential people were self taught. :nod:
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:52 am
Winterborn wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:51 am A bit more on his life.

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Can't deny it. :D

That picture (other than the disorganization) looks just like a place I could spend hours in. :nod:
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Winterborn wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:56 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:52 am

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Can't deny it. :D

That picture (other than the disorganization) looks just like a place I could spend hours in. :nod:
Probably organized to him.
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