New Study: Liberals Tend to Have Higher IQ

[kalm]

Chizzang is nocking this thread out of the park.

If you're an asshole, no problem...as long as you know you're an asshole. It's the one's who don't that cause most of the problems.

The world is gray.

[RobsPics]

Did JSO just decide homosexuality is not a choice?

I've never said it's necessarily a choice. I believe innate inclination is definitely a factor. What I've said before is that the relatively high rate at which identical twins who are homosexual are both homosexual if one is suggests that there is a predisposition in at least some cases. At the same time, I think that if it were completely predetermined and environment was not a factor, the rate would be a lot higher than it is. It would approach 100%. But even saying "environmental factors" are involved doesn't mean it's a choice. I don't mean to say that I know it's never a choice. But I do believe that there are certainly a lot of cases in which it is not.

[D1B]

I've never said it's necessarily a choice. I believe innate inclination is definitely a factor. What I've said before is that the relatively high rate at which identical twins who are homosexual are both homosexual if one is suggests that there is a predisposition in at least some cases. At the same time, I think that if it were completely predetermined and environment was not a factor, the rate would be a lot higher than it is. It would approach 100%. But even saying "environmental factors" are involved doesn't mean it's a choice. I don't mean to say that I know it's never a choice. But I do believe that there are certainly a lot of cases in which it is not.

[Chizzang]

Chizzang is nocking this thread out of the park.

If you're an asshole, no problem...as long as you know you're an asshole. It's the one's who don't that cause most of the problems.

The world is gray.

Forever:
And you can check the record from back at AGS in 2005...

I've always said:
I'm Liberally Minded, not necessarily "a Liberal"

Conservatively minded individuals are typically doomed to a cognitive bias when they reach erroneous conclusions or make unfortunate choices their conservative minds incompetence robs them of the meta-cognitive ability to realize it.

They then suffer from illusory superiority, rating their own ability as above average, much higher than in actuality...

As already noted:
By contrast the liberally developed mind seem to underrate their abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority... This leads to a perverse result where less competent people will rate their own ability higher than more competent people. It also explains why actual competence may weaken self-confidence because competent individuals falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. Thus, the mis-calibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the mis-calibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others.

This is old news people...

Winston Churchill serves as the classic example of this Dunning–Kruger Illusory effect - he was a case study for several IQ research tests because so many of his decision were quite obviously disastrous and yet he held his (obviously below average skills) in high regard...

Bush - Napoleon - Hitler... it's easy to study in war as the examples are so extreme and insanity is so obviously on display

[D1B]

Chizzang is nocking this thread out of the park.

If you're an asshole, no problem...as long as you know you're an asshole. It's the one's who don't that cause most of the problems.

The world is gray.

Forever:
And you can check the record from back at AGS in 2005...

I've always said:
I'm Liberally Minded, not necessarily "a Liberal"

Conservatively minded individuals are typically doomed to a cognitive bias when they reach erroneous conclusions or make unfortunate choices their conservative minds incompetence robs them of the meta-cognitive ability to realize it.

They then suffer from illusory superiority, rating their own ability as above average, much higher than in actuality...

As already noted:
By contrast the liberally developed mind seem to underrate their abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority... This leads to a perverse result where less competent people will rate their own ability higher than more competent people. It also explains why actual competence may weaken self-confidence because competent individuals falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. "Thus, the mis-calibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the mis-calibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others.

Whatever, B.F. Skinner ..... conservatives are dumber cuz they're more religious. They are more comfortable and willing than liberals are to let someone else do their thinking.

[AZGrizFan]

Chizzang is nocking this thread out of the park.

If you're an asshole, no problem...as long as you know you're an asshole. It's the one's who don't that cause most of the problems.

The world is gray.

Forever:
And you can check the record from back at AGS in 2005...

I've always said:
I'm Liberally Minded, not necessarily "a Liberal"

Conservatively minded individuals are typically doomed to a cognitive bias when they reach erroneous conclusions or make unfortunate choices their conservative minds incompetence robs them of the meta-cognitive ability to realize it.

They then suffer from illusory superiority, rating their own ability as above average, much higher than in actuality...

As already noted:
By contrast the liberally developed mind seem to underrate their abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority... This leads to a perverse result where less competent people will rate their own ability higher than more competent people. It also explains why actual competence may weaken self-confidence because competent individuals falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. "Thus, the mis-calibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the mis-calibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others.

Please tell me you're at LEAST smart enough to see the incredible irony in this post. You claim it's conservatives who "suffer from illusory superiority", yet it's YOU who blather on and on about the liberals and their wonderful self deprecation.

Yet it's consistently the LIBERAL (minded) people on this board who are just CERTAIN of their "victories" and can't WAIT to denegrate some conservative poster with whom they disagree and then claim moral and intellectual superiority.

Maybe the libs on this board never got the message?

[Chizzang]

Forever:
And you can check the record from back at AGS in 2005...

I've always said:
I'm Liberally Minded, not necessarily "a Liberal"

Conservatively minded individuals are typically doomed to a cognitive bias when they reach erroneous conclusions or make unfortunate choices their conservative minds incompetence robs them of the meta-cognitive ability to realize it.

They then suffer from illusory superiority, rating their own ability as above average, much higher than in actuality...

As already noted:
By contrast the liberally developed mind seem to underrate their abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority... This leads to a perverse result where less competent people will rate their own ability higher than more competent people. It also explains why actual competence may weaken self-confidence because competent individuals falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. "Thus, the mis-calibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the mis-calibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others.

Please tell me you're at LEAST smart enough to see the incredible irony in this post. You claim it's conservatives who "suffer from illusory superiority", yet it's YOU who blather on and on about the liberals and their wonderful self deprecation.

Yet it's consistently the LIBERAL (minded) people on this board who are just CERTAIN of their "victories" and can't WAIT to denegrate some conservative poster with whom they disagree and then claim moral and intellectual superiority.

Maybe the libs on this board never got the message?

You still think this is about you..? and D1b is an extreme case of a conservative mind

[D1B]

Forever:
And you can check the record from back at AGS in 2005...

I've always said:
I'm Liberally Minded, not necessarily "a Liberal"

Conservatively minded individuals are typically doomed to a cognitive bias when they reach erroneous conclusions or make unfortunate choices their conservative minds incompetence robs them of the meta-cognitive ability to realize it.

They then suffer from illusory superiority, rating their own ability as above average, much higher than in actuality...

As already noted:
By contrast the liberally developed mind seem to underrate their abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority... This leads to a perverse result where less competent people will rate their own ability higher than more competent people. It also explains why actual competence may weaken self-confidence because competent individuals falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. "Thus, the mis-calibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the mis-calibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others.

Please tell me you're at LEAST smart enough to see the incredible irony in this post. You claim it's conservatives who "suffer from illusory superiority", yet it's YOU who blather on and on about the liberals and their wonderful self deprecation.

Yet it's consistently the LIBERAL (minded) people on this board who are just CERTAIN of their "victories" and can't WAIT to denegrate some conservative poster with whom they disagree and then claim moral and intellectual superiority.

Maybe the libs on this board never got the message?

I won't speak for others, but I love claiming victory cuz I know it burns your egotistical ass, more than anything.

Often so much it throws you off kilter and exposes you to humorous ridicule, much to my and others delight.

[AZGrizFan]

Please tell me you're at LEAST smart enough to see the incredible irony in this post. You claim it's conservatives who "suffer from illusory superiority", yet it's YOU who blather on and on about the liberals and their wonderful self deprecation.

Yet it's consistently the LIBERAL (minded) people on this board who are just CERTAIN of their "victories" and can't WAIT to denegrate some conservative poster with whom they disagree and then claim moral and intellectual superiority.

Maybe the libs on this board never got the message?

You still think this is about you..?

And you're still trying to claim it's not....pathetic, really.

[AZGrizFan]

Please tell me you're at LEAST smart enough to see the incredible irony in this post. You claim it's conservatives who "suffer from illusory superiority", yet it's YOU who blather on and on about the liberals and their wonderful self deprecation.

Yet it's consistently the LIBERAL (minded) people on this board who are just CERTAIN of their "victories" and can't WAIT to denegrate some conservative poster with whom they disagree and then claim moral and intellectual superiority.

Maybe the libs on this board never got the message?

I won't speak for others, but I love claiming victory cuz I know it burns your egotistical ass, more than anything.

Often so much it throws you off kilter and exposes you to humorous ridicule, much to my and others delight.

The only one who consistently looks like a fool when you do that is you.

In fact, it's a sure sign I've won the argument. Which would mean I've won just about EVERY discussion we've ever had.

[D1B]

Please tell me you're at LEAST smart enough to see the incredible irony in this post. You claim it's conservatives who "suffer from illusory superiority", yet it's YOU who blather on and on about the liberals and their wonderful self deprecation.

Yet it's consistently the LIBERAL (minded) people on this board who are just CERTAIN of their "victories" and can't WAIT to denegrate some conservative poster with whom they disagree and then claim moral and intellectual superiority.

Maybe the libs on this board never got the message?

You still think this is about you..?

Game, set and match - Cleets

[AZGrizFan]

You still think this is about you..?

Game, set and match - Cleets

Awesome! I win again!!!

Douchey, you're like shootin' fish in a barrel!

[D1B]

I won't speak for others, but I love claiming victory cuz I know it burns your egotistical ass, more than anything.

Often so much it throws you off kilter and exposes you to humorous ridicule, much to my and others delight.

The only one who consistently looks like a fool when you do that is you.

In fact, it's a sure sign I've won the argument. Which would mean I've won just about EVERY discussion we've ever had.

There you go again, claiming victory. Havnt you read anything Chizang has posted?

[Chizzang]

It's about MIND SETS... not politics and both of you are exactly the same

[AZGrizFan]

It's about MIND SETS... not politics and both of you are exactly the same

...and that's why I put (minded) behind LIBERAL.

[D1B]

It's about MIND SETS... not politics and both of you are exactly the same

Hey, Carl Jung, you don't mind sets are shaped by politics, culture or religion?

[Chizzang]

It's about MIND SETS... not politics and both of you are exactly the same

...and that's why I put (minded) behind LIBERAL.

Winston Churchill

[AZGrizFan]

The only one who consistently looks like a fool when you do that is you.

In fact, it's a sure sign I've won the argument. Which would mean I've won just about EVERY discussion we've ever had.

There you go again, claiming victory. Havnt you read anything Chizang has posted?

You are fucking hysterical.

[D1B]

It's about MIND SETS... not politics and both of you are exactly the same

...and that's why I put (minded) behind LIBERAL.

Z, gets a gold star!

[AZGrizFan]

...and that's why I put (minded) behind LIBERAL.

Z, gets a gold star!

All I've ever wanted was your approval.

[D1B]

Z, gets a gold star!

All I've ever wanted was your approval.

And my money. When are you gonna pay me the 5 grand you owe me?

[AZGrizFan]

All I've ever wanted was your approval.

And my money. When are you gonna pay me the 5 grand you owe me?

The check's in the mail.




No.....really.....it is.

[Chizzang]

Winston Churchill serves as the classic example of this Dunning–Kruger Illusory effect - he was a case study for several IQ research tests because so many of his decision were quite obviously disastrous and yet he held his (obviously below average skills) in high regard...

Bush - Napoleon - Hitler...
it's easy to study in war as the examples are so extreme and insanity is so obviously on display

Every human on earth can see:
Iraq war = stupid - inexplicable - indefensible
then...
Mission accomplished banner = Stupid - inexplicable - indefensible

Grand gestures of moronic ineptitude defended and explained as "The right thing" it's classic Dunning–Kruger

[AZGrizFan]

Winston Churchill serves as the classic example of this Dunning–Kruger Illusory effect - he was a case study for several IQ research tests because so many of his decision were quite obviously disastrous and yet he held his (obviously below average skills) in high regard...

Bush - Napoleon - Hitler...
it's easy to study in war as the examples are so extreme and insanity is so obviously on display

Every human on earth can see:
Iraq war = stupid - inexplicable - indefensible
then...
Mission accomplished banner = Stupid - inexplicable - indefensible

Grand gestures of moronic ineptitude defended and explained as "The right thing" it's classic Dunning–Kruger

But it's not "political", right?

How do you explain the Kennedy/Johnson/Nixon dichotomy, then? When it comes to war?

[Chizzang]

Winston Churchill serves as the classic example of this Dunning–Kruger Illusory effect - he was a case study for several IQ research tests because so many of his decision were quite obviously disastrous and yet he held his (obviously below average skills) in high regard...

Bush - Napoleon - Hitler...
it's easy to study in war as the examples are so extreme and insanity is so obviously on display

Every human on earth can see:
Iraq war = stupid - inexplicable - indefensible
then...
Mission accomplished banner = Stupid - inexplicable - indefensible

Grand gestures of moronic ineptitude defended and explained as "The right thing" it's classic Dunning–Kruger

But it's not "political", right?

How do you explain the Kennedy/Johnson/Nixon dichotomy, then? When it comes to war?

Kennedy was a complete Dunning–Kruger example - most politicians are..!!!
He almost started WWIII
I just use Churchill because he's been used so frequently - he was exceedingly arrogant while failing

A large part of the study is about failed efforts supported by arrogance and presumed success...
"So stupid he didn't even know he was failing.."
The presumption of prowess and knowledge while proving to all - that you're not that bright
Example: Mission Accomplished... Classic