The Planned Parenthood video...

[Grizalltheway]

No scientific consensus.

Rights of the mother are primary.

Nope. Rights of the one being killed trump.

Not according to SCOTUS.

[89Hen]

Nope. Rights of the one being killed trump.

Not according to SCOTUS.

So you agree with every ruling they've ever passed down. Good to know. I'll file that one away for future use.

[Grizalltheway]

Not according to SCOTUS.

So you agree with every ruling they've ever passed down. Good to know. I'll file that one away for future use.

Yeah, that's what I said, Mort.

[89Hen]

So you agree with every ruling they've ever passed down. Good to know. I'll file that one away for future use.

Yeah, that's what I said, Mort.

Pretty much what you implied.

[travelinman67]

Nope. Rights of the one being killed trump.

Not according to SCOTUS.

Negative. SCOTUS is increasingly siding with state's rights to restrict abortions when imminent grave danger to the mother is specious.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzales_v._Carhart

Globally, the majority of nations either ban abortion or have extensive restrictions on abortion with narrow exception, generally to save another life.

[houndawg]

Not according to SCOTUS.

Negative. SCOTUS is increasingly siding with state's rights to restrict abortions when imminent grave danger to the mother is specious.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzales_v._Carhart

Globally, the majority of nations either ban abortion or have extensive restrictions on abortion with narrow exception, generally to save another life.

The biggest problem on the planet is overpopulation.

[Grizalltheway]

Yeah, that's what I said, Mort.

Pretty much what you implied.

No it isn't, at all. I'm saying that according to the supreme law of the land, the mother's rights take precedence. You don't have to like it, but that's the way it is.

[89Hen]

Pretty much what you implied.

No it isn't, at all. I'm saying that according to the supreme law of the land, the mother's rights take precedence. You don't have to like it, but that's the way it is.

Well shoot, then why the hell am I wasting my time? It's been decided and we can all stop talking about it.

[travelinman67]

Negative. SCOTUS is increasingly siding with state's rights to restrict abortions when imminent grave danger to the mother is specious.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzales_v._Carhart

Globally, the majority of nations either ban abortion or have extensive restrictions on abortion with narrow exception, generally to save another life.

The biggest problem on the planet is overpopulation.

Actually, it's stupidity.

[Baldy]

Negative. SCOTUS is increasingly siding with state's rights to restrict abortions when imminent grave danger to the mother is specious.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzales_v._Carhart

Globally, the majority of nations either ban abortion or have extensive restrictions on abortion with narrow exception, generally to save another life.

The biggest problem on the planet is overpopulation.

Myth.

[Pwns]

The biggest problem on the planet is overpopulation.

Abortion won't do a darn thing to affect birth rates as long as the populations that have willingness and access to them aren't the ones reproducing like rabbits.

[D1B]

No scientific consensus.

Rights of the mother are primary.

Nope. Rights of the one being killed trump.

Nope. Wrong again, clinic bomber.

[Grizalltheway]

No it isn't, at all. I'm saying that according to the supreme law of the land, the mother's rights take precedence. You don't have to like it, but that's the way it is.

Well shoot, then why the hell am I wasting my time? It's been decided and we can all stop talking about it.

You can talk about it until you're blue in the face, but it won't change the fact that, as it stands, your statement was factually incorrect.

[89Hen]

Well shoot, then why the hell am I wasting my time? It's been decided and we can all stop talking about it.

You can talk about it until you're blue in the face, but it won't change the fact that, as it stands, your statement was factually incorrect.

Maybe you should stay off the poli board. This place is full of opinions.

[D1B]

You can talk about it until you're blue in the face, but it won't change the fact that, as it stands, your statement was factually incorrect.

Maybe you should stay off the poli board. This place is full of opinions.

Nice dodge.

It's an ugly world, Hen. You really want to end abortion? Then leave these poor women alone, they have enough to deal with, and focus your efforts on expanding access to birth control. Oh, yeah, you're catholic.

[CID1990]

the new video that just came out certainly looks rather .... mercenary

I wonder if PP will apologize for the doctor's "tone" on this one too?

SK did the talking points memo come out on the new video? whats the spin on this one?

[kalm]

the new video that just came out certainly looks rather .... mercenary

I wonder if PP will apologize for the doctor's "tone" on this one too?

SK did the talking points memo come out on the new video? whats the spin on this one?

Patience. There's now accusations that the Center For Medical Progress filed as a Biomedicine Charity with the IRS which it might not actually be.

[89Hen]

Maybe you should stay off the poli board. This place is full of opinions.

Nice dodge.

It's an ugly world, Hen. You really want to end abortion? Then leave these poor women alone, they have enough to deal with, and focus your efforts on expanding access to birth control. Oh, yeah, you're catholic.

Oh yeah, you and the pro-abortion folks like to keep inserting religion into this. Where did I ever say I'm against birth control?

[Grizalltheway]

Nice dodge.

It's an ugly world, Hen. You really want to end abortion? Then leave these poor women alone, they have enough to deal with, and focus your efforts on expanding access to birth control. Oh, yeah, you're catholic.

Oh yeah, you and the pro-abortion folks like to keep inserting religion into this. Where did I ever say I'm against birth control?

You donate to an organization that is. Money is speech, remember?

[89Hen]

Oh yeah, you and the pro-abortion folks like to keep inserting religion into this. Where did I ever say I'm against birth control?

You donate to an organization that is. Money is speech, remember?

I don't agree with anyone or any organization 100% of the time. Who does? Oh, that's right, quite a few of the libs on this board do.

[CID1990]

the new video that just came out certainly looks rather .... mercenary

I wonder if PP will apologize for the doctor's "tone" on this one too?

SK did the talking points memo come out on the new video? whats the spin on this one?

Patience. There's now accusations that the Center For Medical Progress filed as a Biomedicine Charity with the IRS which it might not actually be.

as long as their name doesn't have the words "tea", "party", or "patriot" in it theyll be ok

[D1B]

Nice dodge.

It's an ugly world, Hen. You really want to end abortion? Then leave these poor women alone, they have enough to deal with, and focus your efforts on expanding access to birth control. Oh, yeah, you're catholic.

Oh yeah, you and the pro-abortion folks like to keep inserting religion into this. Where did I ever say I'm against birth control?

You morally and financially support an org that's been waging war on woman for thousands of years. You're also a member of Knights of Columbus-colossal patriarchal assholes.

Suggestion: make it clear in writing that your support will not be used to further harass women or defend pedophiles.

[89Hen]

Oh yeah, you and the pro-abortion folks like to keep inserting religion into this. Where did I ever say I'm against birth control?

You morally and financially support an org that's been waging war on woman for thousands of years. You're also a member of Knights of Columbus-colossal patriarchal assholes.

Suggestion: make it clear in writing that your support will not be used to further harass women or defend pedophiles.

When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you.

[D1B]

You morally and financially support an org that's been waging war on woman for thousands of years. You're also a member of Knights of Columbus-colossal patriarchal assholes.

Suggestion: make it clear in writing that your support will not be used to further harass women or defend pedophiles.

When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you.

Time for you to wise up and quit being a hypocrite.

There's nothing in scripture that says you have join a cult to get into heaven.

Jesus hates the Catholic Church.

[D1B]

I'm sure Joltin Joe and Joltin Hen are proud of this:

The Campaign of Deception Against Planned Parenthood

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By THE EDITORIAL BOARD
JULY 22, 2015
A hidden-camera video released last week purported to show that Planned Parenthood illegally sells tissue from aborted fetuses. It shows nothing of the sort. But it is the latest in a series of unrelenting attacks on Planned Parenthood, which offers health care services to millions of people every year. The politicians howling to defund Planned Parenthood care nothing about the truth here, being perfectly willing to undermine women’s reproductive rights any way they can.

The nine-minute video clip released by the Center for Medical Progress, an outfit apparently created in 2013, invites viewers to “Hold Planned Parenthood accountable for their illegal sale of baby parts.” In it, Dr. Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthood’s senior director of medical services, is seen discussing the collection of fetal tissue in a lunch meeting with two people posing as potential tissue buyers. A second video, released on Tuesday, shows another Planned Parenthood staff member discussing fetal tissue.

After the first video’s release, Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky pledged to “introduce an amendment to pending Senate legislation to immediately strip every dollar of Planned Parenthood funding.” Senator Ted Cruz of Texas called for defunding and for “an investigation of Planned Parenthood’s activities regarding the sale and transfer of aborted body parts.” The House Energy and Commerce Committee is undertaking an investigation, and Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas and Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana have ordered investigations in their states.

The full video of the lunch meeting, over two hours long and released by the Center for Medical Progress after complaints by Planned Parenthood, shows something very different from what these critics claim. Clearly, the shorter version was edited to eliminate statements by Dr. Nucatola explaining that Planned Parenthood does not profit from tissue donation, which requires the clear consent of the patient. Planned Parenthood affiliates only accept money — between $30 and $100 per specimen, according to Dr. Nucatola — to cover costs associated with collecting and transporting the tissue. “This is not something with any revenue stream that affiliates are looking at,” she said. Under federal law, facilities may be reimbursed for costs associated with fetal tissue donation, like transportation and storage.


Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood.
TOM WILLIAMS / CQ ROLL CALL, VIA GETTY IMAGES
According to a letter sent by Roger Evans, a lawyer for Planned Parenthood, to the House Energy and Commerce Committee, the video is a result of a yearslong campaign of deception. The head of the Center for Medical Progress, David Daleiden, created a fake company called Biomax Procurement Services almost three years ago for the purpose of tricking Planned Parenthood employees, the letter alleges, even setting up exhibits at Planned Parenthood’s national conferences. The letter also says Biomax offered a Planned Parenthood affiliate $1,600 for a fetal liver and thymus, presumably to trap the affiliate in the act of accepting a high payment for fetal tissue. The affiliate declined.


In a statement on its website, the Center for Medical Progress says it “follows all applicable laws in the course of our investigative journalism work.”

Anti-abortion groups have long pushed to defund Planned Parenthood, even though no federal money is used to provide abortions. But that hasn’t stopped their efforts to shut down the clinics, which provide services like contraception, cancer screening and other tests.

The Center for Medical Progress — which managed to get tax-exempt status in 2013 as a biomedicine charity, according to a report by The Huffington Post — appears to have done little beyond producing the undercover video. According to its registration form with the California attorney general, it has three officers: Mr. Daleiden; Albin Rhomberg, who has participated in anti-abortion protests; and Troy Newman, the president of the anti-abortion group Operation Rescue.

In a statement last week, Cecile Richards, the president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, said that “our donation programs — like any other high-quality health care providers — follow all laws and ethical guidelines” and that “Planned Parenthood stands behind our work to help women and families donate tissue for medical research when they wish to.”

Researchers use fetal tissue to study and develop treatments for diseases and conditions like H.I.V., hepatitis, congenital heart defects, retinal degeneration and Parkinson’s. Last year, the National Institutes of Health gave $76 million in grants for fetal tissue research. Planned Parenthood is certainly not the only collector of fetal tissue — clinics associated with universities also supply tissue for research.

The Center for Medical Progress video campaign is a dishonest attempt to make legal, voluntary and potentially lifesaving tissue donations appear nefarious and illegal. Lawmakers responding by promoting their own anti-choice agenda are rewarding deception and putting women’s health and their constitutionally protected rights at risk.

Pro life, conk and catholic fucks need to quit harassing women and find a new hobby.