Charlottesville riots

[mrklean]

Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe said, in referring to the White Nationalists, "You came here today to hurt people."

I don't think that's true. I think if they'd have been left alone nobody would've been hurt. Yes, the White Nationalists clearly were prepared for trouble. But I think that's understandable. I think it was reasonable for them to anticipate that they would be confronted.

But they didn't go there "to hurt people." They went there to protest the removal of a statue and maybe make a statement. They were violently confronted and they violently responded.

Now, I'm sure they expected to be violently confronted and they bear some responsibility for doing what they did anyway. But it doesn't change the fact that the counter protesters were violent or excuse absolving the counter protesters of any responsibility for what happened.

Neville St Onge.
You're as out of touch as you are full of ****. We had a world war about this.

[Gil Dobie]

Gee...
I wish we could just let both sides of this riot kill each other

Glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read this, or I would need a new keyboard.

[kalm]

[Gil Dobie]

For some reason, I don't think Lee would appreciate White Supremacist supporting him in this fight.

[houndawg]

We have reached a point where both sides are condoning violence or at least being sympathetic to it.

Alea jacta est.

I hate to agree with Orrin Hatch, but he was right on this time: My dad and uncle enlisted to fight against scum like that. I happen to agree with leaving the statues alone and not trying to whitewash history but that's small shit comparitively and the time has come to give the Nazis what we gave them last time they pissed us off and if that's going to happen in the streets of our nation so be it. Be interesting to see which side the cops come down on at nut cutting time.

[Gil Dobie]

None of this would have happened if they (1). Decided to leave statue alone and (2) counter protesters stayed home and let the protesters have their day. The alt left seems to be winning this war on history, just let the pro statue people have their moment.


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As PT Barnum said, "There is no such thing as bad publicity". The counter protesters actually brought more publicity to these white supremacist than they would have received under normal circumstances.

[houndawg]

None of this would have happened if they (1). Decided to leave statue alone and (2) counter protesters stayed home and let the protesters have their day. The alt left seems to be winning this war on history, just let the pro statue people have their moment.


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As PT Barnum said, "There is no such thing as bad publicity". The counter protesters actually brought more publicity to these white supremacist than they would have received under normal circumstances.

And that's good that they're getting their views out there. Helps the rest of us to decide which side we're on so that there won't be any doubt when the Big Event kicks off.

[ASUG8]

This man is not hero. He is a fvcking traitor plan and simple. He side lost get over it. A U. S Army officer who lead a armed rebellion against the United States Government is not hero. Damn right take all of this shit down. How many statues of General Patton, or The Red Tails do we have? not enough. Just my .02 worth

But by all means we should honor Sherman for his loving, tolerant approach to burning down YOUR CITY and most of Georgia on the way to the sea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_W ... n_Monument

[Baldy]

We have reached a point where both sides are condoning violence or at least being sympathetic to it.

Alea jacta est.

I hate to agree with Orrin Hatch, but he was right on this time: My dad and uncle enlisted to fight against scum like that. I happen to agree with leaving the statues alone and not trying to whitewash history but that's small shit comparitively and the time has come to give the Nazis what we gave them last time they pissed us off and if that's going to happen in the streets of our nation so be it. Be interesting to see which side the cops come down on at nut cutting time.

Yeah, the streets are literally crawling with Neo-Nazis.

[Col Hogan]

Alea jacta est.

I hate to agree with Orrin Hatch, but he was right on this time: My dad and uncle enlisted to fight against scum like that. I happen to agree with leaving the statues alone and not trying to whitewash history but that's small **** comparitively and the time has come to give the Nazis what we gave them last time they pissed us off and if that's going to happen in the streets of our nation so be it. Be interesting to see which side the cops come down on at nut cutting time.

Yeah, the streets are literally crawling with Neo-Nazis.

But according to Jon and his merry band, anyone who is conservative is a Neo-Nazi...you know, all those in the deplorable basket...

[GannonFan]

That would be a VERY strong statement the likes of which the left is motivated to make!

But would it fit on a sign or be effective in a face to face confrontation???

Good point. In the age of Twitter and clever memes and one sentence message board fodder, no one has the time nor the attention for nuanced and reasoned debate on really any topic. It's more about "shutting someone down" or "slamming" someone. While those things certainly motivate, they don't really educate. But no one seems to care about that anymore. None of this would fit on a sign and still be readable.

[Baldy]

On the flip side: Ya'll got a problem with this:



But not this?:



or this?:

[kalm]

On the flip side: Ya'll got a problem with this:



But not this?:



or this?:

I'm not upset by any of it nor would I protest it.

There's too much good fishing to be had and I'm not a snowflake.

[CAA Flagship]

I have a problem with this:

[Gil Dobie]

Watching CNN for about 5 minutes on this. One CNN person said the white supremacist were a majority of Trump's base. A few minutes later she said they were a minority. Talk about a quick flip flop.

[ASUG8]

Watching CNN for about 5 minutes on this. One CNN person said the white supremacist were a majority of Trump's base. A few minutes later she said they were a minority. Talk about a quick flip flop.

You lost me at CNN.

[CAA Flagship]

This is the wildest pic:

[CAA Flagship]

Both sides were "geared up".

[Baldy]

On the flip side: Ya'll got a problem with this:



But not this?:



or this?:

I'm not upset by any of it nor would I protest it.

There's too much good fishing to be had and I'm not a snowflake.

No doubt.
Shit like this is going to happen when you bring two of the lowest common denominators of society together.

[OL FU]

Man oh Man I am glad I live in a bubble

[89Hen]

Bad fail kalm.

[dbackjon]

Lol. Lee was a traitor to the United States who should have been executed for treason

Bill Ayers and Bobby Rush were traitors too. When should they be executed?

Lee wasn't a perfect man but he had some admirable qualities. Rather than trying to erase his significant role in our history why don't we use these memorials as an opportunity to discuss where we are, where we came from and where we're going? Erasing history doesn't automatically change it or the future.

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They didn't lead an armed insurrection against the government.

Do you see statues of Hiltler, Himmler, etc in Germany? I am sure they had a good quality or two.


We can have discussions of history without statues honoring rebellious traitors.

[dbackjon]

Lol at the libtard MSN media complaining that Trump condemned both sides. I've read that both sides used chemical irritants. One article claimed that the counter protectors were the 1st to use them. And all the videos I seen has shown a mass melee with people on both sides fighting. And you have racism on both sides. It takes 2 to tango. Trump is right to condem both sides.

No surprise you defend a fellow white supremecist.

[AZGrizFan]

On the flip side: Ya'll got a problem with this:



But not this?:



or this?:

No shit. But...but....but....we fought a WAR against these losers!!!!

Yeah, no shit. And we've fought MULTIPLE wars against communists and are CURRENTLY fighting a war against ISIS...but you dipshits using that war bullshit as a reference have stated time and again you have no problem with these morons...only the ones you don't agree with.

[89Hen]

Lol at the libtard MSN media complaining that Trump condemned both sides. I've read that both sides used chemical irritants. One article claimed that the counter protectors were the 1st to use them. And all the videos I seen has shown a mass melee with people on both sides fighting. And you have racism on both sides. It takes 2 to tango. Trump is right to condem both sides.

No surprise you defend a fellow white supremecist.

No surprise you're too blind to see what he's talking about. You've never been one to keep an open mind.