Kyle Rittenhouse Trial

[CID1990]

This trial never should've gone forward with the murder charges. You have to think the prosecution had at some point talked to the people they were calling for witnesses and realized they would never be able to get around the self-defense claim of the defendant. Taking him to trial on something lesser like the gun charge would've been the reasonable approach, but we don't appear to have reasonableness in abundance these days. Going to be a lot of howling when the jury comes back quickly with the not-guilty verdicts on the murder charges, but like I said, those charges never should've been pursued.

Should have been charged as the terrorist he is.

Shows up heavily armed with a 30 round magazine to an event where violence is expected and engages in lethal violence - he's a willing combatant not in military uniform. He's a terrorist.

The litte creep couldn't even manage tears during his dramatic performance for the jury.

No doubt he has a bright future with a certain faction of our nation's LEOs.

Its easy to tell when you’re upset and pouting


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[SDHornet]

Should have been charged as the terrorist he is.

Shows up heavily armed with a 30 round magazine to an event where violence is expected and engages in lethal violence - he's a willing combatant not in military uniform. He's a terrorist.

The litte creep couldn't even manage tears during his dramatic performance for the jury.

No doubt he has a bright future with a certain faction of our nation's LEOs.

He's not a terrorist, he's just an idea.

[SDHornet]

Should have been charged as the terrorist he is.

Shows up heavily armed with a 30 round magazine to an event where violence is expected and engages in lethal violence - he's a willing combatant not in military uniform. He's a terrorist.

The litte creep couldn't even manage tears during his dramatic performance for the jury.

No doubt he has a bright future with a certain faction of our nation's LEOs.

Its easy to tell when you’re upset and pouting


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I don't think there are any of these types of cases Houndie hasn't been on the wrong side of. Maybe the Floyd case, but that is about it...

...I still laugh at the Zimmerman thread beatings he took to get on the CS.com mount rushmore of retard.

[Ibanez]

This trial never should've gone forward with the murder charges. You have to think the prosecution had at some point talked to the people they were calling for witnesses and realized they would never be able to get around the self-defense claim of the defendant. Taking him to trial on something lesser like the gun charge would've been the reasonable approach, but we don't appear to have reasonableness in abundance these days. Going to be a lot of howling when the jury comes back quickly with the not-guilty verdicts on the murder charges, but like I said, those charges never should've been pursued.

I'm not sure murder was the best charge. The kid drove from out of town (out of state), with a weapon (he couldn't legally have), and ended up killing 2 and injuring 1. Regardless of your feelings towards the protest - the kid fucked up and should be held accountable.

The prosecution seems to be going out of its way to piss off the judge to the point where they're questioning Kyle's right to remain silent.

[93henfan]

I'm not sure murder was the best charge. The kid drove from out of town (out of state), with a weapon (he couldn't legally have), and ended up killing 2 and injuring 1. Regardless of your feelings towards the protest - the kid fucked up and should be held accountable.

He should be held accountable for the misdemeanor, which he clearly is guilty of. All of the felonies and the aggravating charge were all very clearly self defense. Everyone has a right to defend themselves. And this kid was surgical. On a crowded block of antifa rioters, he injured no one but the three antifa thugs who threatened his life with grave bodily harm.

If I'm the judge, I give him the minimum fine for the misdemeanor (maybe even waive it for the disruption to this poor young Patriot's life) and let him walk.

[Ibanez]

I'm not sure murder was the best charge. The kid drove from out of town (out of state), with a weapon (he couldn't legally have), and ended up killing 2 and injuring 1. Regardless of your feelings towards the protest - the kid fucked up and should be held accountable.

He should be held accountable for the misdemeanor, which he clearly is guilty of. All of the felonies and the aggravating charge were all very clearly self defense. Everyone has a right to defend themselves. And this kid was surgical. On a crowded block of antifa rioters, he injured no one but the three antifa thugs who threatened his life with grave bodily harm.

If I'm the judge, I give him the minimum fine for the misdemeanor (maybe even waive it for the disruption to this poor young Patriot's life) and let him walk.

I don't doubt that he got scared and acted in self defense. He honestly shouldn't have been there in the first place ( not a crime, just bad judgement).

I'm honestly surprised the leftists haven't blamed Trumps COVID checks for giving Kyle the money to illegally purchase a weapon.

[UNI88]

I'm not sure murder was the best charge. The kid drove from out of town (out of state), with a weapon (he couldn't legally have), and ended up killing 2 and injuring 1. Regardless of your feelings towards the protest - the kid fucked up and should be held accountable.

He should be held accountable for the misdemeanor, which he clearly is guilty of. All of the felonies and the aggravating charge were all very clearly self defense. Everyone has a right to defend themselves. And this kid was surgical. On a crowded block of antifa rioters, he injured no one but the three antifa thugs who threatened his life with grave bodily harm.

If I'm the judge, I give him the minimum fine for the misdemeanor (maybe even waive it for the disruption to this poor young Patriot's life) and let him walk.

Second-degree recklessly endangering safety?

[GannonFan]

I'm not sure murder was the best charge. The kid drove from out of town (out of state), with a weapon (he couldn't legally have), and ended up killing 2 and injuring 1. Regardless of your feelings towards the protest - the kid fucked up and should be held accountable.

He should be held accountable for the misdemeanor, which he clearly is guilty of. All of the felonies and the aggravating charge were all very clearly self defense. Everyone has a right to defend themselves. And this kid was surgical. On a crowded block of antifa rioters, he injured no one but the three antifa thugs who threatened his life with grave bodily harm.

If I'm the judge, I give him the minimum fine for the misdemeanor (maybe even waive it for the disruption to this poor young Patriot's life) and let him walk.

Agreed on most of it, he's guilty of the misdemeanor, anything after that is looking pretty clearly as self-defense. The first guy he killed said he was going to kill Rittenhouse, the second guy he killed was pummeling him with a skateboard, and the third guy ran at him with a gun pointed at him (his own admission). He's going to be not guilty on anything related to the killings or woundings. Having the gun is the thing he'll be guilty of.

[Ibanez]

He should be held accountable for the misdemeanor, which he clearly is guilty of. All of the felonies and the aggravating charge were all very clearly self defense. Everyone has a right to defend themselves. And this kid was surgical. On a crowded block of antifa rioters, he injured no one but the three antifa thugs who threatened his life with grave bodily harm.

If I'm the judge, I give him the minimum fine for the misdemeanor (maybe even waive it for the disruption to this poor young Patriot's life) and let him walk.

Agreed on most of it, he's guilty of the misdemeanor, anything after that is looking pretty clearly as self-defense. The first guy he killed said he was going to kill Rittenhouse, the second guy he killed was pummeling him with a skateboard, and the third guy ran at him with a gun pointed at him (his own admission). He's going to be not guilty on anything related to the killings or woundings. Having the gun is the thing he'll be guilty of.

The prosecutor...i'm not sure what his deal is but he botched their case, IMO.

[GannonFan]

Agreed on most of it, he's guilty of the misdemeanor, anything after that is looking pretty clearly as self-defense. The first guy he killed said he was going to kill Rittenhouse, the second guy he killed was pummeling him with a skateboard, and the third guy ran at him with a gun pointed at him (his own admission). He's going to be not guilty on anything related to the killings or woundings. Having the gun is the thing he'll be guilty of.

The prosecutor...i'm not sure what his deal is but he botched their case, IMO.

Bad hand to begin with (not sure if it was his fault) - those charges never should've been brought. No prosecutor was ever going to win with those charges, the evidence is just overwhelmingly pointing to self defense. Heck, even the wounded guy, the third guy shot, pretty much called it self defense.

[93henfan]

He should be held accountable for the misdemeanor, which he clearly is guilty of. All of the felonies and the aggravating charge were all very clearly self defense. Everyone has a right to defend themselves. And this kid was surgical. On a crowded block of antifa rioters, he injured no one but the three antifa thugs who threatened his life with grave bodily harm.

If I'm the judge, I give him the minimum fine for the misdemeanor (maybe even waive it for the disruption to this poor young Patriot's life) and let him walk.

Second-degree recklessly endangering safety?

I read the counts a long time ago and can't recite them. To keep it simple, getting the gun was the crime. He was too young to possess. Everything else was self defense. Everyone has a right to defend themselves against threat of grave bodily harm. Doesn't matter how they got there or how they got the means to defend themselves. It doesn't matter if they're a mass murderer who falls out of a prison van, gets threatened by an antifa dude, and grabs a baseball bat and knocks the antifa faggot's head off. Totally justified. You physically threaten me with grave bodily harm, I neutralize you, I'm completely justified, anywhere in the US, every fucking time.

[UNI88]

Second-degree recklessly endangering safety?

I read the counts a long time ago and can't recite them. To keep it simple, getting the gun was the crime. He was too young to possess. Everything else was self defense. Everyone has a right to defend themselves against threat of grave bodily harm. Doesn't matter how they got there or how they got the means to defend themselves. It doesn't matter if they're a mass murderer who falls out of a prison van, gets threatened by an antifa dude, and grabs a baseball bat and knocks the antifa faggot's head off. Totally justified. You physically threaten me with grave bodily harm, I neutralize you, I'm completely justified, anywhere in the US, every fucking time.

I think the charges included first-degree recklessly endangering safety but not second. They might have been able to make a second degree charge stick.

[93henfan]

I read the counts a long time ago and can't recite them. To keep it simple, getting the gun was the crime. He was too young to possess. Everything else was self defense. Everyone has a right to defend themselves against threat of grave bodily harm. Doesn't matter how they got there or how they got the means to defend themselves. It doesn't matter if they're a mass murderer who falls out of a prison van, gets threatened by an antifa dude, and grabs a baseball bat and knocks the antifa faggot's head off. Totally justified. You physically threaten me with grave bodily harm, I neutralize you, I'm completely justified, anywhere in the US, every fucking time.

I think the charges included first-degree recklessly endangering safety but not second. They might have been able to make a second degree charge stick.

He never intentionally endangered anyone though. In every instance that night, he was trying to be a do-gooder; certainly a naive one, but he never had bad intentions that could be proven. He's on camera A LOT that night, and he was constantly trying to do public service, not evil shit. If, for instance, he ventured down the street with the intent to intimidate people, then that charge might stick. Instead, he was trying to establish a perimeter around a business to keep it from being burned to the ground by liberal human excrement. He was in defense mode the whole night, not offense.

[93henfan]

Also, Rittenhouse took two felons off the streets, including a multiple-count child rapist. He should get some credit for that.

[UNI88]

I think the charges included first-degree recklessly endangering safety but not second. They might have been able to make a second degree charge stick.

He never intentionally endangered anyone though. In every instance that night, he was trying to be a do-gooder; certainly a naive one, but he never had bad intentions that could be proven. He's on camera A LOT that night, and he was constantly trying to do public service, not evil shit. If, for instance, he ventured down the street with the intent to intimidate people, then that charge might stick. Instead, he was trying to establish a perimeter around a business to keep it from being burned to the ground by liberal human excrement. He was in defense mode the whole night, not offense.

I'm not a lawyer or an expert on Wisconsin's laws but I suspect that first-degree recklessly endangering safety might require intention but that second-degree is more general. Him going where he shouldn't have while armed might have been enough for second-degree.

What he did was stupid. What the people he shot did was even more stupid.

[93henfan]

He never intentionally endangered anyone though. In every instance that night, he was trying to be a do-gooder; certainly a naive one, but he never had bad intentions that could be proven. He's on camera A LOT that night, and he was constantly trying to do public service, not evil shit. If, for instance, he ventured down the street with the intent to intimidate people, then that charge might stick. Instead, he was trying to establish a perimeter around a business to keep it from being burned to the ground by liberal human excrement. He was in defense mode the whole night, not offense.

I'm not a lawyer or an expert on Wisconsin's laws but I suspect that first-degree recklessly endangering safety might require intention but that second-degree is more general. Him going where he shouldn't have while armed might have been enough for second-degree.

What he did was stupid. What the people he shot did was even more stupid.

No disagreements. Give the young hero a light slap on the wrist and let's move on. He did great things that night, just a few years before he legally should have, and society is better off for it.

[93henfan]

I will say this, the young hero/Patriot sucks at crying. WTF was that hyperventilating shit? Work on your courtroom cry, son. That was pathetic and embarrassing.

[93henfan]

As you westerners say, "boy howdy."

[UNI88]

I will say this, the young hero/Patriot sucks at crying. WTF was that hyperventilating shit? Work on your courtroom cry, son. That was pathetic and embarrassing.

You and Joy Behar agree ...

Maybe AOChe could give him some pointers.

[CID1990]

Second-degree recklessly endangering safety?

I read the counts a long time ago and can't recite them. To keep it simple, getting the gun was the crime. He was too young to possess. Everything else was self defense. Everyone has a right to defend themselves against threat of grave bodily harm. Doesn't matter how they got there or how they got the means to defend themselves. It doesn't matter if they're a mass murderer who falls out of a prison van, gets threatened by an antifa dude, and grabs a baseball bat and knocks the antifa faggot's head off. Totally justified. You physically threaten me with grave bodily harm, I neutralize you, I'm completely justified, anywhere in the US, every fucking time.

I have a lot of supposedly smart friends on the Facebooks who don’t seem to grasp thr fact that Rittenhouse’s illegal possession of a firearm somehow negates his right to self defense. There’s a couple people on this board who seem to think that also.


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[BDKJMU]

Agreed on most of it, he's guilty of the misdemeanor, anything after that is looking pretty clearly as self-defense. The first guy he killed said he was going to kill Rittenhouse, the second guy he killed was pummeling him with a skateboard, and the third guy ran at him with a gun pointed at him (his own admission). He's going to be not guilty on anything related to the killings or woundings. Having the gun is the thing he'll be guilty of.

The prosecutor...i'm not sure what his deal is but he botched their case, IMO.

He botched the case by bringing it in the 1st place.

As a prosecutor you only go to trial over a case you think you can win, right? By bringing the murder charges that means this prosecutor had to have believed he could get a murder conviction, which shows you how big of an idiot he is..

[BDKJMU]

The prosecutor...i'm not sure what his deal is but he botched their case, IMO.

Bad hand to begin with (not sure if it was his fault) - those charges never should've been brought. No prosecutor was ever going to win with those charges, the evidence is just overwhelmingly pointing to self defense. Heck, even the wounded guy, the third guy shot, pretty much called it self defense.

Sure its his fault. He brought the charges that clearly aren‘t there.

[BDKJMU]

As you westerners say, "boy howdy."

You buy .223..

[93henfan]

As you westerners say, "boy howdy."

You buy .223..

I'm going to pick me up some of those "exploding bullets" that the prosecution was talking about. Those things sound awesome!

[Ibanez]

You buy .223..

I'm going to pick me up some of those "exploding bullets" that the prosecution was talking about. Those things sound awesome!

Exploding bullets sounds like a defect and not a feature...