When socialism comes to America..

[kalm]

Per capita GDP the US isn’t close to the richest in the world.
Many of those other 80 aren’t 1st world countries and still have shitty health care.
Which one of those countries has the highest obesity rate in the world?

Ok…we’re top 2-5 depending on metrics.

Obesity is similar. We eat ourselves to death while poor countries starve.

And like I’ve said before these are all choices for us.

These are not winning arguments.

[BDKJMU]

Per capita GDP the US isn’t close to the richest in the world.
Many of those other 80 aren’t 1st world countries and still have shitty health care.
Which one of those countries has the highest obesity rate in the world?

Ok…we’re top 2-5 depending on metrics.

Obesity is similar. We eat ourselves to death while poor countries starve.

And like I’ve said before these are all choices for us.

These are not winning arguments.

Yes it is because single payer isn’t going to fix shit in the US. Everyone (who wasn’t an illegal) would have a low level of care. Anyone with $$ would have access to private insurance with better access, shorter wait times, better doctors, etc. Those who couldn’t afford private insurance would be stuck with longer wait times, the worst doctors, etc. And you would have as much chance of banning private insurance as you would have banning g guns. And the left would continue to wail about how patently unfair this single payer system was. $$$ makes the world go round.

And it doesn’t matter what system we have as long as America is fat as fuck.

You want to subsidize something, subsidize GLP1s. It might not solve the obesity epidemic, but it’s at the top of the list.

[UNI88]

Ok…we’re top 2-5 depending on metrics.

Obesity is similar. We eat ourselves to death while poor countries starve.

And like I’ve said before these are all choices for us.

These are not winning arguments.

Yes it is because single payer isn’t going to fix shit in the US. Everyone (who wasn’t an illegal) would have a low level of care. Anyone with $$ would have access to private insurance with better access, shorter wait times, better doctors, etc. Those who couldn’t afford private insurance would be stuck with longer wait times, the worst doctors, etc. And you would have as much chance of banning private insurance as you would have banning g guns. And the left would continue to wail about how patently unfair this single payer system was. $$$ makes the world go round.

And it doesn’t matter what system we have as long as America is fat as fuck.

You want to subsidize something, subsidize GLP1s. It might not solve the obesity epidemic, but it’s at the top of the list.

Obamacare sucks but it’s better than what we had before and it’s better than anything that trump has offered (concepts of a plan … )

We’ll see if the House bill passes the Senate and if it’s an improvement. I haven’t looked at the details yet and I’m not sure it will have an impact soon enough to overcome the impact of premium increases on 2026 elections.

What we’re doing isn’t really working and the fixes discussed in Congress are lipstick on a bulldog. Single payer might not be the answer but staying where we are isn’t either. This is one area where Republicans and Democrats need to set aside their partisan bickering and work together on a real compromise solution that benefits all of America.


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[kalm]

Ok…we’re top 2-5 depending on metrics.

Obesity is similar. We eat ourselves to death while poor countries starve.

And like I’ve said before these are all choices for us.

These are not winning arguments.

Yes it is because single payer isn’t going to fix shit in the US. Everyone (who wasn’t an illegal) would have a low level of care. Anyone with $$ would have access to private insurance with better access, shorter wait times, better doctors, etc. Those who couldn’t afford private insurance would be stuck with longer wait times, the worst doctors, etc. And you would have as much chance of banning private insurance as you would have banning g guns. And the left would continue to wail about how patently unfair this single payer system was. $$$ makes the world go round.

And it doesn’t matter what system we have as long as America is fat as fuck.

You want to subsidize something, subsidize GLP1s. It might not solve the obesity epidemic, but it’s at the top of the list.

For profit insurance is the main difference between us and countries with better outcomes at half the cost (for consumers and GDP)

We’ve been through this 100’s of times. Why is the U.S. incapable of this?

GLP1’s show some promise but I’m sure you’re aware of the side issues, side effects and long term use. Not saying they’re not a potential silver bullet but those other countries with already superior systems can benefit from them too.

[BDKJMU]

Yes it is because single payer isn’t going to fix shit in the US. Everyone (who wasn’t an illegal) would have a low level of care. Anyone with $$ would have access to private insurance with better access, shorter wait times, better doctors, etc. Those who couldn’t afford private insurance would be stuck with longer wait times, the worst doctors, etc. And you would have as much chance of banning private insurance as you would have banning g guns. And the left would continue to wail about how patently unfair this single payer system was. $$$ makes the world go round.

And it doesn’t matter what system we have as long as America is fat as fuck.

You want to subsidize something, subsidize GLP1s. It might not solve the obesity epidemic, but it’s at the top of the list.

Obamacare sucks but it’s better than what we had before and it’s better than anything that trump has offered (concepts of a plan … )

We’ll see if the House bill passes the Senate and if it’s an improvement. I haven’t looked at the details yet and I’m not sure it will have an impact soon enough to overcome the impact of premium increases on 2026 elections.

What we’re doing isn’t really working and the fixes discussed in Congress are lipstick on a bulldog. Single payer might not be the answer but staying where we are isn’t either. This is one area where Republicans and Democrats need to set aside their partisan bickering and work together on a real compromise solution that benefits all of America.


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The only thing Obamacare has been good for is Big Insurance..

[BDKJMU]

Yes it is because single payer isn’t going to fix shit in the US. Everyone (who wasn’t an illegal) would have a low level of care. Anyone with $$ would have access to private insurance with better access, shorter wait times, better doctors, etc. Those who couldn’t afford private insurance would be stuck with longer wait times, the worst doctors, etc. And you would have as much chance of banning private insurance as you would have banning g guns. And the left would continue to wail about how patently unfair this single payer system was. $$$ makes the world go round.

And it doesn’t matter what system we have as long as America is fat as fuck.

You want to subsidize something, subsidize GLP1s. It might not solve the obesity epidemic, but it’s at the top of the list.

For profit insurance is the main difference between us and countries with better outcomes at half the cost (for consumers and GDP)

We’ve been through this 100’s of times. Why is the U.S. incapable of this?

GLP1’s show some promise but I’m sure you’re aware of the side issues, side effects and long term use. Not saying they’re not a potential silver bullet but those other countries with already superior systems can benefit from them too.

Better outcomes because they have half the obesity (and because you are comparing us to 1st world W Europe and Asia, are a lot whiter). We are the most sedentary, processed foods, fat as fuck country on earth and it is killing (and bankrupting) us. We’ve been through this hundreds of times. Single payer won’t do shit (and will still be labeled as ‘unfair’) until you fix the obesity epidemic.

[kalm]

For profit insurance is the main difference between us and countries with better outcomes at half the cost (for consumers and GDP)

We’ve been through this 100’s of times. Why is the U.S. incapable of this?

GLP1’s show some promise but I’m sure you’re aware of the side issues, side effects and long term use. Not saying they’re not a potential silver bullet but those other countries with already superior systems can benefit from them too.

Better outcomes because they have half the obesity (and because you are comparing us to 1st world W Europe and Asia, are a lot whiter). We are the most sedentary, processed foods, fat as fuck country on earth and it is killing (and bankrupting) us. We’ve been through this hundreds of times. Single payer won’t do shit (and will still be labeled as ‘unfair’) until you fix the obesity epidemic.

Agree 100% on sedentary lifestyle, nutrition and consumption. That’s in my wheelhouse. It’s only a part of the overall need to change. For example, savings from premiums and catastrophic end of life care enable the middle class at the least avoid bankruptcy over medical bills (#1 cause of bankruptcy in the U.S.) but it also enables cleaner and more nutritious diets which are expensive when done right. This will lead to increased demand for healthy foods urban/community gardening and more public rec areas playgrounds in low income areas and/or food deserts.
In a perfect world people grow and raise way more of their food. Gardening itself is healthy activity. They have affordable public facilities like city trails and workout type facilities. Of course this also requires a sea change and continuing education (from 1st grade through adult) in how Americans view health

[kalm]

For profit insurance is the main difference between us and countries with better outcomes at half the cost (for consumers and GDP)

We’ve been through this 100’s of times. Why is the U.S. incapable of this?

GLP1’s show some promise but I’m sure you’re aware of the side issues, side effects and long term use. Not saying they’re not a potential silver bullet but those other countries with already superior systems can benefit from them too.

Better outcomes because they have half the obesity (and because you are comparing us to 1st world W Europe and Asia, are a lot whiter). We are the most sedentary, processed foods, fat as fuck country on earth and it is killing (and bankrupting) us. We’ve been through this hundreds of times. Single payer won’t do shit (and will still be labeled as ‘unfair’) until you fix the obesity epidemic.

And what does race have to do with it?

[UNI88]

Obamacare sucks but it’s better than what we had before and it’s better than anything that trump has offered (concepts of a plan … )

We’ll see if the House bill passes the Senate and if it’s an improvement. I haven’t looked at the details yet and I’m not sure it will have an impact soon enough to overcome the impact of premium increases on 2026 elections.

What we’re doing isn’t really working and the fixes discussed in Congress are lipstick on a bulldog. Single payer might not be the answer but staying where we are isn’t either. This is one area where Republicans and Democrats need to set aside their partisan bickering and work together on a real compromise solution that benefits all of America.


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The only thing Obamacare has been good for is Big Insurance..

Obamacare was good for young adults, people with low incomes and pre-existing conditions.

Obamacare has been good for me and I fell into none of those groups because my employer doesn’t offer insurance and Cobra through my ex-wife’s insurance ended 4 years ago. ACA plans are better than pre-ACA market options for individuals.

Don’t believe all of the negative propaganda about Obamacare. It’s nowhere near perfect but it was an improvement over what we had.

[BDKJMU]

Better outcomes because they have half the obesity (and because you are comparing us to 1st world W Europe and Asia, are a lot whiter). We are the most sedentary, processed foods, fat as fuck country on earth and it is killing (and bankrupting) us. We’ve been through this hundreds of times. Single payer won’t do shit (and will still be labeled as ‘unfair’) until you fix the obesity epidemic.

And what does race have to do with it?

These other 1st World countries are whiter. The US isn’t the only 1st world country where minority populations have worse outcomes. We just have a larger minority population.

And we also have been subsidizing many of those other 1st world country’s social services to include health care for 70+ years by largely paying for their defense.

[BDKJMU]

The only thing Obamacare has been good for is Big Insurance..

Obamacare was good for young adults, people with low incomes and pre-existing conditions.

Obamacare has been good for me and I fell into none of those groups because my employer doesn’t offer insurance and Cobra through my ex-wife’s insurance ended 4 years ago. ACA plans are better than pre-ACA market options for individuals.

Don’t believe all of the negative propaganda about Obamacare. It’s nowhere near perfect but it was an improvement over what we had.

Something like 90% of American Citizens had coverage pre Obamacare. AI says 83%-85%, but I believe that includes non citizens (legal and illegal).

And it hasn’t been good for young adults. Forcing young healthy people to pay for something they don’t need and/or overpaying, subsidizing older. Young healthy are paying more than they should.

Remember the whole Obamacare lie if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor?

Obamacare has been great for the insurance companies though.

[kalm]

And what does race have to do with it?

These other 1st World countries are whiter. The US isn’t the only 1st world country where minority populations have worse outcomes. We just have a larger minority population.

And we also have been subsidizing many of those other 1st world country’s social services to include health care for 70+ years by largely paying for their defense.

It’s almost as though they’ve been exploited for natural resources, lax environmental laws, and cheap labor. (Cough, cough colonialism…)

But I’m sure we can agree it has nothing to do with race and everything to with economics, right? I mean POC’s aren’t shitty at nutrition, disease, low standard of living due to the color of their skin, right?

[UNI88]

Obamacare was good for young adults, people with low incomes and pre-existing conditions.

Obamacare has been good for me and I fell into none of those groups because my employer doesn’t offer insurance and Cobra through my ex-wife’s insurance ended 4 years ago. ACA plans are better than pre-ACA market options for individuals.

Don’t believe all of the negative propaganda about Obamacare. It’s nowhere near perfect but it was an improvement over what we had.

Something like 90% of American Citizens had coverage pre Obamacare. AI says 83%-85%, but I believe that includes non citizens (legal and illegal).

And it hasn’t been good for young adults. Forcing young healthy people to pay for something they don’t need and/or overpaying, subsidizing older. Young healthy are paying more than they should.

Remember the whole Obamacare lie if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor?

Obamacare has been great for the insurance companies though.

You stated and I quote "The only thing Obamacare has been good for is Big Insurance" and I provided several examples of American people that Obamacare was and is good for. Now you're trying to move the goal posts by focusing on the 83%-85%-90% of Americans who had coverage before Obamacare because you were WRONG.

Being able to stay on their parents' plans until they are 26 is good for young adults. The federal penalty for not having health insurance hasn't been in place since 2018. That argument is FAKE NEWS.

Obamacare was and is good for a number of Americans. It is an improvement over what we had before, you're just unable to stop listening to the crap you're getting from MAQA yahoo echo chambers and pull your head out of your ideological ass enough to admit it. In your worldview, anything Obama and Democrats did is bad and anything trump and MAQA does is good regardless of reality.

[BDKJMU]

These other 1st World countries are whiter. The US isn’t the only 1st world country where minority populations have worse outcomes. We just have a larger minority population.

And we also have been subsidizing many of those other 1st world country’s social services to include health care for 70+ years by largely paying for their defense.

It’s almost as though they’ve been exploited for natural resources, lax environmental laws, and cheap labor. (Cough, cough colonialism…)

But I’m sure we can agree it has nothing to do with race and everything to with economics, right? I mean POC’s aren’t shitty at nutrition, disease, low standard of living due to the color of their skin, right?

You love to compare us to Scandinavian countries. Control for race. Better yet control for sex to. Do say Norwegian white females on average have better health outcomes for less cost than American white females? I‘m sure that‘s the case. You would probably attribute that to single payer. I would say it’s probably more to due to way lower (half?) the obesity rate.

[Caribbean Hen]

For profit insurance is the main difference between us and countries with better outcomes at half the cost (for consumers and GDP)

We’ve been through this 100’s of times. Why is the U.S. incapable of this?

GLP1’s show some promise but I’m sure you’re aware of the side issues, side effects and long term use. Not saying they’re not a potential silver bullet but those other countries with already superior systems can benefit from them too.

Better outcomes because they have half the obesity (and because you are comparing us to 1st world W Europe and Asia, are a lot whiter). We are the most sedentary, processed foods, fat as fuck country on earth and . it is killing (and bankrupting) us. We’ve been through this hundreds of times. Single payer won’t do shit (and will still be labeled as ‘unfair’) until you fix the obesity epidemic.

But you’re not a kind person if you don’t give them this poisonous free food fattening them up for an early death like pigs to a slaughter…

[kalm]

It’s almost as though they’ve been exploited for natural resources, lax environmental laws, and cheap labor. (Cough, cough colonialism…)

But I’m sure we can agree it has nothing to do with race and everything to with economics, right? I mean POC’s aren’t shitty at nutrition, disease, low standard of living due to the color of their skin, right?

You love to compare us to Scandinavian countries. Control for race. Better yet control for sex to. Do say Norwegian white females on average have better health outcomes for less cost than American white females? I‘m sure that‘s the case. You would probably attribute that to single payer. I would say it’s probably more to due to way lower (half?) the obesity rate.

Still ignoring the history and economics I see. (Hint…blaming it on race is lazy and ignorant). But let’s confuse it further by controlling for gender too.

[BDKJMU]

You love to compare us to Scandinavian countries. Control for race. Better yet control for sex to. Do say Norwegian white females on average have better health outcomes for less cost than American white females? I‘m sure that‘s the case. You would probably attribute that to single payer. I would say it’s probably more to due to way lower (half?) the obesity rate.

Still ignoring the history and economics I see. (Hint…blaming it on race is lazy and ignorant). But let’s confuse it further by controlling for gender too.

Trying to pretend that race isn’t a factor in health care outcomes (and not just the US).

[kalm]

Still ignoring the history and economics I see. (Hint…blaming it on race is lazy and ignorant). But let’s confuse it further by controlling for gender too.

Trying to pretend that race isn’t a factor in health care outcomes (and not just the US).

Lazy af and racist to stop at skin color as the answer. How’s the health care in rural white america?

[BDKJMU]

She’s not alone. Capitalism brought you the high cost of living in Seattle. My SiL rents a decent older home in Kirkland to be close to her kids. $4000/month. Her solid 6 figure salary with Expedia renders her working class.

This is why the likes of Mamdani and Wilson won.

What did the voters win exactly?

Continued toxic empathy for people who should be rotting in prison instead of free to roam the streets creating victims..Like having guys like this assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; murder someone, be arrested, maybe not be let out…

[kalm]

What did the voters win exactly?

Continued toxic empathy for people who should be rotting in prison instead of free to roam the streets creating victims..Like having guys like this assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; assault someone, be arrested, be let out; murder someone, be arrested, maybe not be let out…

So you can’t reform the criminal justice system and reduce crime rates under democratic socialism?

[Caribbean Hen]

Zohran Mamdani names two controversial lawyers to NYC’s top legal jobs — including 1 de Blasio admin alum

By Craig McCarthy, Hannah Fierick and David Propper

Klamdami loading the bus with moronic individuals

NYC is a progressive den of evil

[Caribbean Hen]

Well, the devil is in charge of New York City… sneaky bastard

“A Jewish civil rights group is demanding answers from freshly minted Mayor Zohran Mamdani after past posts about combating antisemitism were scrubbed from the Big Apple’s official mayoral X account — raising serious legal concerns.

The Democratic socialist — the first Muslim to lead City Hall — has been accused of deleting two Eric Adams-era posts highlighting the city’s fight against antisemitism that were shared hours before Mamdani was sworn in and took control of the account Thursday, according to the National Jewish Advocacy Center.”

[Caribbean Hen]

Mamdani’s lies about the rich are only meant to demonize — they already foot NYC’s bills

By Post Editorial Board

https://nypost.com/2026/01/01/opinion/m ... ycs-bills/

Klamdami is a moron

[Caribbean Hen]

“During his inaugural address, the newly minted socialist mayor and New York’s first Muslim mayor, declared, "We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism."

Mark it down as the dumbest statement in the history of New York City

[kalm]

I believe it was Upton Sinclair who wrote “When socialism comes to America it will arrive wrapped in a flag and carrying a Bible”.