Gorillas In The Mist - The Official Thread

[CitadelGrad]

[Gil Dobie]

You better get the message to MSM, to let them know which of the 40 murders a day in this country to cover.

Well, they can start with ones that are particularly heinous, as the execution of a 5-yr old boy. Then maybe the 50% of murders committed by 13% of the population. There is no need to report nationally on each murder, but failing to address the propensity of a minority population to commit murder and other violent crimes, is journalistic negligence.

What percent of that 13% lives in poverty and how does that compare to crimes committed by whites that live in poverty?

[CitadelGrad]

Well, they can start with ones that are particularly heinous, as the execution of a 5-yr old boy. Then maybe the 50% of murders committed by 13% of the population. There is no need to report nationally on each murder, but failing to address the propensity of a minority population to commit murder and other violent crimes, is journalistic negligence.

What percent of that 13% lives in poverty and how does that compare to crimes committed by whites that live in poverty?

Oh, I see. They are just reacting to a system that keeps them in poverty.

Perhaps people who are prone to violence and enjoy violence do not possess the attributes necessary to keep themselves out of poverty.

They are not victims. They create victims.

[93henfan]

His head would look terrific in my scope.

[Gil Dobie]

What percent of that 13% lives in poverty and how does that compare to crimes committed by whites that live in poverty?

Oh, I see. They are just reacting to a system that keeps them in poverty.

Perhaps people who are prone to violence and enjoy violence do not possess the attributes necessary to keep themselves out of poverty.

They are not victims. They create victims.

How come I've never encountered that with African Americans in a professional environment? I've seen plenty of whites that are prone to violence and enjoy violence and do not possess the attributes necessary to keep themselves out of poverty.

[Baldy]

Duh...gravity keeps the black man down. It's racist.

[CitadelGrad]

[CitadelGrad]

Oh, I see. They are just reacting to a system that keeps them in poverty.

Perhaps people who are prone to violence and enjoy violence do not possess the attributes necessary to keep themselves out of poverty.

They are not victims. They create victims.

How come I've never encountered that with African Americans in a professional environment? I've seen plenty of whites that are prone to violence and enjoy violence and do not possess the attributes necessary to keep themselves out of poverty.

I don't know. Perhaps those who are professional and employed are not prone to violence. The same can be said about other races.

I also have seen whites who are prone to violence and do not possess the attributes necessary to keep themselves out of poverty. Thanks for making my point.

The numbers are what they are. 13% of the population (actually less than that if you normalize for children and women who tend to not commit a great deal of violent crime) account for 50% of murders and other violent crimes.

[Gil Dobie]

How come I've never encountered that with African Americans in a professional environment? I've seen plenty of whites that are prone to violence and enjoy violence and do not possess the attributes necessary to keep themselves out of poverty.

I don't know. Perhaps those who are professional and employed are not prone to violence. The same can be said about other races.

I also have seen whites who are prone to violence and do not possess the attributes necessary to keep themselves out of poverty. Thanks for making my point.

The numbers are what they are. 13% of the population (actually less than that if you normalize for children and women who tend to not commit a great deal of violent crime) account for 50% of murders and other violent crimes.

There are approx 48,000,000 blacks in the USA, and approx 16,000 homicides, if blacks account for half, that's 8000 not counting multiple murders by 1 person. How many of those 8000 out of 48,000,000 live in poverty? Hardly evidence of a group you say are prone to violence and enjoy violence.

[CitadelGrad]

I don't know. Perhaps those who are professional and employed are not prone to violence. The same can be said about other races.

I also have seen whites who are prone to violence and do not possess the attributes necessary to keep themselves out of poverty. Thanks for making my point.

The numbers are what they are. 13% of the population (actually less than that if you normalize for children and women who tend to not commit a great deal of violent crime) account for 50% of murders and other violent crimes.

There are approx 48,000,000 blacks in the USA, and approx 16,000 homicides, if blacks account for half, that's 8000 not counting multiple murders by 1 person. How many of those 8000 out of 48,000,000 live in poverty? Hardly evidence of a group you say are prone to violence and enjoy violence.

Comparitively far more prone than other ethnicities. Anyway, it isn't just murders, but approx. 50% of all violent crime. That means assaults, armed robbery, non-fatal shootings and stabbings, etc.

[Gil Dobie]

There are approx 48,000,000 blacks in the USA, and approx 16,000 homicides, if blacks account for half, that's 8000 not counting multiple murders by 1 person. How many of those 8000 out of 48,000,000 live in poverty? Hardly evidence of a group you say are prone to violence and enjoy violence.

Comparitively far more prone than other ethnicities. Anyway, it isn't just murders, but approx. 50% of all violent crime. That means assaults, armed robbery, non-fatal shootings and stabbings, etc.

Looking at the FBI database on homicides for 2018, there were 5723 total. 2509 white on white, 2245 black on black. Black killers were 39% of the total, not 50%. If you are living in the poverty area's of the inner city, there is a greater chance of a person becoming mixed up in drugs, gangs and the violent world that comes with it. Take the same person as a child to a good suburb or small town, and they grow up in a whole new world, away from the violence of the poverty stricken inner city.

[BDKJMU]

Comparitively far more prone than other ethnicities. Anyway, it isn't just murders, but approx. 50% of all violent crime. That means assaults, armed robbery, non-fatal shootings and stabbings, etc.

Looking at the FBI database on homicides for 2018, there were 5723 total. 2509 white on white, 2245 black on black. Black killers were 39% of the total, not 50%. If you are living in the poverty area's of the inner city, there is a greater chance of a person becoming mixed up in drugs, gangs and the violent world that comes with it. Take the same person as a child to a good suburb or small town, and they grow up in a whole new world, away from the violence of the poverty stricken inner city.

There were 14,123 homicides.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... able-1.xls
and blacks were 48.3% of the offenders.

Race off offenders:
3177 black (48.3%)
3011 white (45.8%) (This includes most of team Brown)
*207 other (3.15%) (Includes American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Island)
175 unknown (2.7%)
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... able-6.xls

Single victim, single offender. Less than 6,600 offenders for 14,123 homicides explained below.

NOTE: This table is based on incidents where some information about the offender is known by law enforcement; therefore, when the offender age, sex, race, and ethnicity are all reported as unknown, these data are excluded from the table.

All the tables here.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... ed-offense

[89Hen]

Comparitively far more prone than other ethnicities. Anyway, it isn't just murders, but approx. 50% of all violent crime. That means assaults, armed robbery, non-fatal shootings and stabbings, etc.

Looking at the FBI database on homicides for 2018, there were 5723 total. 2509 white on white, 2245 black on black. Black killers were 39% of the total, not 50%. If you are living in the poverty area's of the inner city, there is a greater chance of a person becoming mixed up in drugs, gangs and the violent world that comes with it. Take the same person as a child to a good suburb or small town, and they grow up in a whole new world, away from the violence of the poverty stricken inner city.

Poverty is an issue but not the only one. 10% of whites live in poverty, 20% black. That means there are LOT more whites living in poverty if you do the math.

[Gil Dobie]

Looking at the FBI database on homicides for 2018, there were 5723 total. 2509 white on white, 2245 black on black. Black killers were 39% of the total, not 50%. If you are living in the poverty area's of the inner city, there is a greater chance of a person becoming mixed up in drugs, gangs and the violent world that comes with it. Take the same person as a child to a good suburb or small town, and they grow up in a whole new world, away from the violence of the poverty stricken inner city.

There were 14,123 homicides.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... able-1.xls
and blacks were 48.3% of the offenders.

Race off offenders:
3177 black (48.3%)
3011 white (45.8%) (This includes most of team Brown)
*207 other (3.15%) (Includes American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Island)
175 unknown (2.7%)
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... able-6.xls

Single victim, single offender. Less than 6,600 offenders for 14,123 homicides explained below.

NOTE: This table is based on incidents where some information about the offender is known by law enforcement; therefore, when the offender age, sex, race, and ethnicity are all reported as unknown, these data are excluded from the table.

All the tables here.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... ed-offense

I had the wrong year downloaded on my spreadsheet. Still 3177 out 48,000,000 is a small number to make a judgement on an entire population.

[Gil Dobie]

Looking at the FBI database on homicides for 2018, there were 5723 total. 2509 white on white, 2245 black on black. Black killers were 39% of the total, not 50%. If you are living in the poverty area's of the inner city, there is a greater chance of a person becoming mixed up in drugs, gangs and the violent world that comes with it. Take the same person as a child to a good suburb or small town, and they grow up in a whole new world, away from the violence of the poverty stricken inner city.

Poverty is an issue but not the only one. 10% of whites live in poverty, 20% black. That means there are LOT more whites living in poverty if you do the math.

I'm sure drugs and gangs are related to some that live in the inner city. According to the statistics, it's about 2-1 whites that live in poverty compared to blacks. Whites are spread throughout the country, while the larger populations of blacks are in the south and larger cities. I would also assume it's much easier to live near the poverty level in North Dakota compared to New York City, due to the cost of living expenses.

[CitadelGrad]

There were 14,123 homicides.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... able-1.xls
and blacks were 48.3% of the offenders.

Race off offenders:
3177 black (48.3%)
3011 white (45.8%) (This includes most of team Brown)
*207 other (3.15%) (Includes American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Island)
175 unknown (2.7%)
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... able-6.xls

Single victim, single offender. Less than 6,600 offenders for 14,123 homicides explained below.


All the tables here.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... ed-offense

I had the wrong year downloaded on my spreadsheet. Still 3177 out 48,000,000 is a small number to make a judgement on an entire population.

Again, the incidence of black violent crime makes rates of violent among other races almost microscopic,

Compare black on black crime and black on white violent crime rates to white on white and white on black rates. You will easily see that, comparitively, there is a tremendous propensity for violence among blacks, especially black males from 16-35. Differences in poverty rates don't even come close to explaining the variances in violent crime rates.

[Gil Dobie]

I had the wrong year downloaded on my spreadsheet. Still 3177 out 48,000,000 is a small number to make a judgement on an entire population.

Again, the incidence of black violent crime makes rates of violent among other races almost microscopic,

Compare black on black crime and black on white violent crime rates to white on white and white on black rates. You will easily see that, comparitively, there is a tremendous propensity for violence among blacks, especially black males from 16-35. Differences in poverty rates don't even come close to explaining the variances in violent crime rates.

White on white 3315 victims, 2677 white offenders
Black on black 2975 victims, 2600 black offenders

So you are saying a black child growing up in rural North Dakota has the same chance of growing up in a violent neighborhood as a black child growing up in a gang infested neighborhood? You are telling me surroundings mean nothing? Yet we have over 40 million African American's making a great living in American along with other ethnicities.

[CitadelGrad]

My circumstances made me break into that ATM and loot shit.

[CitadelGrad]

Again, the incidence of black violent crime makes rates of violent among other races almost microscopic,

Compare black on black crime and black on white violent crime rates to white on white and white on black rates. You will easily see that, comparitively, there is a tremendous propensity for violence among blacks, especially black males from 16-35. Differences in poverty rates don't even come close to explaining the variances in violent crime rates.

White on white 3315 victims, 2677 white offenders
Black on black 2975 victims, 2600 black offenders

So you are saying a black child growing up in rural North Dakota has the same chance of growing up in a violent neighborhood as a black child growing up in a gang infested neighborhood? You are telling me surroundings mean nothing? Yet we have over 40 million African American's making a great living in American along with other ethnicities.

Now do black on white and white on black.

[AZGrizFan]

Poverty is an issue but not the only one. 10% of whites live in poverty, 20% black. That means there are LOT more whites living in poverty if you do the math.

I'm sure drugs and gangs are related to some that live in the inner city. According to the statistics, it's about 2-1 whites that live in poverty compared to blacks. Whites are spread throughout the country, while the larger populations of blacks are in the south and larger cities. I would also assume it's much easier to live near the poverty level in North Dakota compared to New York City, due to the cost of living expenses.

Isn’t the poverty level different for different regions/urban areas?

[CitadelGrad]

[CitadelGrad]

[Gil Dobie]

I'm sure drugs and gangs are related to some that live in the inner city. According to the statistics, it's about 2-1 whites that live in poverty compared to blacks. Whites are spread throughout the country, while the larger populations of blacks are in the south and larger cities. I would also assume it's much easier to live near the poverty level in North Dakota compared to New York City, due to the cost of living expenses.

Isn’t the poverty level different for different regions/urban areas?

Looks like it's the same, according to Wiki, for the lower 48, a little higher for Alaska and Hawaii.

Persons in
Family Unit 48 Contiguous States
and D.C. Alaska Hawaii
1 $12,140 $15,180 $13,960
2 $16,460 $20,580 $18,930
3 $20,780 $25,980 $23,900
4 $25,100 $31,380 $28,870
5 $29,420 $36,780 $33,840
6 $33,740 $42,180 $38,810
7 $38,060 $47,580 $43,780
8 $42,380 $52,980 $48,750
Each additional
person adds $4,320 $5,400 $4,970

Link

[CitadelGrad]

[BDKJMU]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/80-year-old- ... amily-says