Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

[SeattleGriz]

House report accuses Matt Gaetz of paying women for sex, using illegal drugs, accepting improper gifts

Former Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., allegedly paid multiple women for sex, including a 17-year-old high school girl, and used illicit drugs like cocaine and ecstasy, according to a House Ethics Committee report.

The 37-page report released Monday morning concluded that Gaetz violated multiple Florida state laws related to sexual misconduct while in office.

"The Committee concluded there was substantial evidence that Representative Gaetz violated House Rules, state and federal laws, and other standards of conduct prohibiting prostitution, statutory rape, illicit drug use, acceptance of impermissible gifts, the provision of special favors and privileges, and obstruction of Congress," the report states.

And why did the DOJ drop the case?

This is going to be rich. I can't wait for your answer!

[UNI88]

House report accuses Matt Gaetz of paying women for sex, using illegal drugs, accepting improper gifts

And why did the DOJ drop the case?

This is going to be rich. I can't wait for your answer!

Why did Republicans on the House Ethics Committee vote to release the report?

What does the report state about gaetz's actions?

[kalm]

House report accuses Matt Gaetz of paying women for sex, using illegal drugs, accepting improper gifts

And why did the DOJ drop the case?

This is going to be rich. I can't wait for your answer!

[SeattleGriz]

And why did the DOJ drop the case?

This is going to be rich. I can't wait for your answer!

Why did Republicans on the House Ethics Committee vote to release the report?

What does the report state about gaetz's actions?

DOJ dropped the case because the people making the accusations have a history of bullshit.

You got played again.

[UNI88]

Why did Republicans on the House Ethics Committee vote to release the report?

What does the report state about gaetz's actions?

DOJ dropped the case because the people making the accusations have a history of bullshit.

You got played again.

Guess what? The DoJ dropping the case doesn’t mean he’s innocent.

Regardless of what the DoJ did, why did Republicans on the House Ethics Committee vote to release the report? What does the report state about gaetz's actions?

More importantly, why are you defending/deflecting for a sexual predator?


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[kalm]

DOJ dropped the case because the people making the accusations have a history of bullshit.

You got played again.

Guess what? The DoJ dropping the case doesn’t mean he’s innocent.

Regardless of what the DoJ did, why did Republicans on the House Ethics Committee vote to release the report? What does the report state about gaetz's actions?

More importantly, why are you defending/deflecting for a sexual predator?


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More importantly, what kind of accusation history does a 17 year old girl have and why do you know about it?

[BDKJMU]

DOJ dropped the case because the people making the accusations have a history of bullshit.

You got played again.

Guess what? The DoJ dropping the case doesn’t mean he’s innocent.

Regardless of what the DoJ did, why did Republicans on the House Ethics Committee vote to release the report? What does the report state about gaetz's actions?

More importantly, why are you defending/deflecting for a sexual predator?


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Your opinion.

[SeattleGriz]

DOJ dropped the case because the people making the accusations have a history of bullshit.

You got played again.

Guess what? The DoJ dropping the case doesn’t mean he’s innocent.

Regardless of what the DoJ did, why did Republicans on the House Ethics Committee vote to release the report? What does the report state about gaetz's actions?

More importantly, why are you defending/deflecting for a sexual predator?


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Once again you make a claim without proof. "There's smoke, so there HAS to be fire" type statements. What about innocent until proven guilty do you not understand?

Look at you keep carrying water for people like Maddow and the MSM.

[SeattleGriz]

Guess what? The DoJ dropping the case doesn’t mean he’s innocent.

Regardless of what the DoJ did, why did Republicans on the House Ethics Committee vote to release the report? What does the report state about gaetz's actions?

More importantly, why are you defending/deflecting for a sexual predator?


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More importantly, what kind of accusation history does a 17 year old girl have and why do you know about it?

This is why you are always wrong. Never can be bothered to actually do some research on a topic. Be better!

[kalm]

More importantly, what kind of accusation history does a 17 year old girl have and why do you know about it?

This is why you are always wrong. Never can be bothered to actually do some research on a topic. Be better!

Hmmm….odd defensive reaction.

Tell us what you know about her history and why you know it.

[UNI88]

Guess what? The DoJ dropping the case doesn’t mean he’s innocent.

Regardless of what the DoJ did, why did Republicans on the House Ethics Committee vote to release the report? What does the report state about gaetz's actions?

More importantly, why are you defending/deflecting for a sexual predator?


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Once again you make a claim without proof. "There's smoke, so there HAS to be fire" type statements. What about innocent until proven guilty do you not understand?

Look at you keep carrying water for people like Maddow and the MSM.

Why do you only apply innocent until proven guilty to MAQA yahoos?

Unfortunately for gaetz, a guilty verdict in a criminal trial isn’t required for a House ethics violation. The standard of proof is different but no less valid.

Why did Republicans in Congress vote to release the report / ask for the report?

I just used the same kind of weak ass argument (why are you …) you use against me on the Ukraine thread.


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[Bobcat]

88 is a sexual predator so is KKKalm.


Im right, you have to believe me and stuff. the accusation is all that matters. No discussion needed

Predators

[SeattleGriz]

Once again you make a claim without proof. "There's smoke, so there HAS to be fire" type statements. What about innocent until proven guilty do you not understand?

Look at you keep carrying water for people like Maddow and the MSM.

Why do you only apply innocent until proven guilty to MAQA yahoos?

Unfortunately for gaetz, a guilty verdict in a criminal trial isn’t required for a House ethics violation. The standard of proof is different but no less valid.

Why did Republicans in Congress vote to release the report / ask for the report?

I just used the same kind of weak ass argument (why are you …) you use against me on the Ukraine thread.


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You peddle lies. Too lazy to look up the fact the accuser is already convicted of saying the same things about another person. He's already admitted to a snitch he lied to get his sentence reduced, but you just keep telling us about how you care about justice.

Just stop with the stupid "Republican votes". Let's just call it the way it is. Establishment piece of shit (Rep) votes to release bullshit information.

This is as bad as your obsession with Jim Jordan. Can't see the fact that both these guys were up for high profile positions, only to have these stories that strain at incredulity released and then you peddle them. Pathetic.

[UNI88]

Why do you only apply innocent until proven guilty to MAQA yahoos?

Unfortunately for gaetz, a guilty verdict in a criminal trial isn’t required for a House ethics violation. The standard of proof is different but no less valid.

Why did Republicans in Congress vote to release the report / ask for the report?

I just used the same kind of weak ass argument (why are you …) you use against me on the Ukraine thread.


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You peddle lies. Too lazy to look up the fact the accuser is already convicted of saying the same things about another person. He's already admitted to a snitch he lied to get his sentence reduced, but you just keep telling us about how you care about justice.

Just stop with the stupid "Republican votes". Let's just call it the way it is. Establishment piece of shit (Rep) votes to release bullshit information.

This is as bad as your obsession with Jim Jordan. Can't see the fact that both these guys were up for high profile positions, only to have these stories that strain at incredulity released and then you peddle them. Pathetic.

You state that "the accuser" is in jail as if there's only one accuser. Sure, greenberg's in jail but what about the girl, the prostitutes he paid, etc? There is as much proof of gaetz's lack of morals as there is hunter biden's. Yet you don't get upset about all the rumors and innuendo thrown at hunter. There is more proof that gaetz is a groomer/pedophile then there is that all LGBTQ+ people are, why don't you defend them against the rumors and innuendo?

Why are you defending a sexual deviant?

[SeattleGriz]

You peddle lies. Too lazy to look up the fact the accuser is already convicted of saying the same things about another person. He's already admitted to a snitch he lied to get his sentence reduced, but you just keep telling us about how you care about justice.

Just stop with the stupid "Republican votes". Let's just call it the way it is. Establishment piece of shit (Rep) votes to release bullshit information.

This is as bad as your obsession with Jim Jordan. Can't see the fact that both these guys were up for high profile positions, only to have these stories that strain at incredulity released and then you peddle them. Pathetic.

You state that "the accuser" is in jail as if there's only one accuser. Sure, greenberg's in jail but what about the girl, the prostitutes he paid, etc? There is as much proof of gaetz's lack of morals as there is hunter biden's. Yet you don't get upset about all the rumors and innuendo thrown at hunter. There is more proof that gaetz is a groomer/pedophile then there is that all LGBTQ+ people are, why don't you defend them against the rumors and innuendo?

Why are you defending a sexual deviant?

What prostitutes? List them.

What does Hunter have to do with Gaetz? You're really devolving into child like arguments these days.

[UNI88]

You state that "the accuser" is in jail as if there's only one accuser. Sure, greenberg's in jail but what about the girl, the prostitutes he paid, etc? There is as much proof of gaetz's lack of morals as there is hunter biden's. Yet you don't get upset about all the rumors and innuendo thrown at hunter. There is more proof that gaetz is a groomer/pedophile then there is that all LGBTQ+ people are, why don't you defend them against the rumors and innuendo?

Why are you defending a sexual deviant?

What prostitutes? List them.

What does Hunter have to do with Gaetz? You're really devolving into child like arguments these days.

No.

hunter and gaetz are examples of the hypocrisy/double standard of MAQA yahoos like yourself when it comes to requiring proof of allegations.

Why do you continue to defend a sexual predator?

[SeattleGriz]

What prostitutes? List them.

What does Hunter have to do with Gaetz? You're really devolving into child like arguments these days.

No.

hunter and gaetz are examples of the hypocrisy/double standard of MAQA yahoos like yourself when it comes to requiring proof of allegations.

Why do you continue to defend a sexual predator?

I'm waiting for the list of all the prostitutes. You don't even know that, which is obvious with your, "mommy! He did it too" reasoning.

[UNI88]

No.

hunter and gaetz are examples of the hypocrisy/double standard of MAQA yahoos like yourself when it comes to requiring proof of allegations.

Why do you continue to defend a sexual predator?

I'm waiting for the list of all the prostitutes. You don't even know that, which is obvious with your, "mommy! He did it too" reasoning.

What do you call people he paid "for engaging in sexual activity with him"?

IN THE MATTER OF ALLEGATIONS RELATING TO REPRESENTATIVE MATT GAETZ

In sum, the Committee found substantial evidence of the following:

• From at least 2017 to 2020, Representative Gaetz regularly paid women for engaging in sexual activity with him.
• In 2017, Representative Gaetz engaged in sexual activity with a 17-year-old girl.
• During the period 2017 to 2019, Representative Gaetz used or possessed illegal drugs, including cocaine and ecstasy, on multiple occasions.
• Representative Gaetz accepted gifts, including transportation and lodging in connection with a 2018 trip to the Bahamas, in excess of permissible amounts.
• In 2018, Representative Gaetz arranged for his Chief of Staff to assist a woman with whom he engaged in sexual activity in obtaining a passport, falsely indicating to the U.S. Department of State that she was a constituent.
• Representative Gaetz knowingly and willfully sought to impede and obstruct the Committee’s investigation of his conduct.
• Representative Gaetz has acted in a manner that reflects discreditably upon the House.

A 35 year old man paying a 17 year old for sex regardless of whether he knew she was 17 is a violation of Florida's statuatory rape laws. They'd prosecute him if he were a Democrat.

He's a paragon of virtue and family values.

Why do you continue to defend a sexual deviant?

[Caribbean Hen]

Ten dead in New Orleans…. But according to Joey Rotten and his idiotic losers of an administration, Trump supporters are the most dangerous group in America …

[BDKJMU]

You peddle lies. Too lazy to look up the fact the accuser is already convicted of saying the same things about another person. He's already admitted to a snitch he lied to get his sentence reduced, but you just keep telling us about how you care about justice.

Just stop with the stupid "Republican votes". Let's just call it the way it is. Establishment piece of shit (Rep) votes to release bullshit information.

This is as bad as your obsession with Jim Jordan. Can't see the fact that both these guys were up for high profile positions, only to have these stories that strain at incredulity released and then you peddle them. Pathetic.

You state that "the accuser" is in jail as if there's only one accuser. Sure, greenberg's in jail but what about the girl, the prostitutes he paid, etc? There is as much proof of gaetz's lack of morals as there is hunter biden's. Yet you don't get upset about all the rumors and innuendo thrown at hunter. There is more proof that gaetz is a groomer/pedophile then there is that all LGBTQ+ people are, why don't you defend them against the rumors and innuendo?

Why are you defending a sexual deviant?

Who here claimed that ALL alphabet people are groomers/pedophiles?

[UNI88]

You state that "the accuser" is in jail as if there's only one accuser. Sure, greenberg's in jail but what about the girl, the prostitutes he paid, etc? There is as much proof of gaetz's lack of morals as there is hunter biden's. Yet you don't get upset about all the rumors and innuendo thrown at hunter. There is more proof that gaetz is a groomer/pedophile then there is that all LGBTQ+ people are, why don't you defend them against the rumors and innuendo?

Why are you defending a sexual deviant?

Who here claimed that ALL alphabet people are groomers/pedophiles?

Not all alphabet people. MAQA yahoos would never claim that they're all groomers/pedophiles.

Any snowflake getting their panties in a bunch over a trans person reading to a group of children at a library/school.

[Bobcat]

Read to an old person at a home, leave kids alone, we know what these mentally ill scumbags are up to

[UNI88]

Read to an old person at a home, leave kids alone, we know what these mentally ill scumbags are up to

I agree, gaetz is a mentally ill scumbag that shouldn't be allowed near kids, especially young women.

[Bobcat]

Read to an old person at a home, leave kids alone, we know what these mentally ill scumbags are up to

I agree, gaetz is a mentally ill scumbag that shouldn't be allowed near kids, especially young women.

Wait, now you dont want young kids fucked? I am confused, your spin has come full circle or maybe a little bit past 360 degrees

[kalm]

I agree, gaetz is a mentally ill scumbag that shouldn't be allowed near kids, especially young women.

Wait, now you dont want young kids fucked? I am confused, your spin has come full circle or maybe a little bit past 360 degrees