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UNI88 wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 7:36 am You are a qult member unable to criticize trump.

trump is unfit to be President because he’s a narcissistic sociopath who fomented a seditious riot and has done more damage to America in 3 months then biden did in 4 years.


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It just never gets better. I leave for days, come back, and you are still screeching about Trump. You need another intervention.
Typical, Can’t refute the message so you attack the messenger.


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UNI88 wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:21 am
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It just never gets better. I leave for days, come back, and you are still screeching about Trump. You need another intervention.
Typical, Can’t refute the message so you attack the messenger.


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I'm supposed to quantify 3 months of Trump's policies versus four years of Biden's. You are a joke.
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You mean 4 years and 3 months of Trumps policies, right?
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 12:38 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:21 am

Typical, Can’t refute the message so you attack the messenger.


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I'm supposed to quantify 3 months of Trump's policies versus four years of Biden's. You are a joke.
The loss of trust in the U.S. and as an ally in the last 3 months alone will take years to repair. And that clock doesn’t even start until 2027 at the earliest.

Economic recovery from the likely upcoming recession will also take years. Especially for the working class

Then there’s the loss of environmental regulations and protections.

He’s been a busy little beaver.

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If we have a recession it's 100% Trump's fault. It's never been more cut-and-dry. I believe the 9/11 recession would've happened with Al Gore and the pandemic recession would've happened with Hillary Clinton. I hate how Democrats talk about how the pandemic job losses are on Trump and the pandemic preparedness office that was closed with 5 in it would've done nothing. There's never been as cut and dry an example of a president causing a recession if it happens this year. Everyone from progressives all the way to libertarians understand Trump's tariffs are a dumb idea.
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Pwns wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:37 pm If we have a recession it's 100% Trump's fault. It's never been more cut-and-dry. I believe the 9/11 recession would've happened with Al Gore and the pandemic recession would've happened with Hillary Clinton. I hate how Democrats talk about how the pandemic job losses are on Trump and the pandemic preparedness office that was closed with 5 in it would've done nothing. There's never been as cut and dry an example of a president causing a recession if it happens this year. Everyone from progressives all the way to libertarians understand Trump's tariffs are a dumb idea.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:17 am ="https://t.co/IEqz5pm2mx">https://t.co/I ... </p>&mdash; Elon Musk (@elonmusk) <a href="
Stephen Miller rises from his coffin early to make shit up and hate on POC’s, immigrants, women, and cute little puppies.

Why would anyone retweet or post Miller based accusations?

Are you aware at all of what he’s about?

(Don’t answer that)

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“Trump, 78, exhibits "robust cardiac, pulmonary, neurological, and general physical function," according to the report from Capt. Sean P. Barbabella, who performed Trump’s physical on Friday“

It’s pretty obvious really

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kalm wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:33 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:17 am ="https://t.co/IEqz5pm2mx">https://t.co/I ... </p>&mdash; Elon Musk (@elonmusk) <a href="
Stephen Miller rises from his coffin early to make shit up and hate on POC’s, immigrants, women, and cute little puppies.

Why would anyone retweet or post Miller based accusations?

Are you aware at all of what he’s about?

(Don’t answer that)

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Attack the messenger when he’s telling the truth that you don’t like
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:34 am
kalm wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:33 am

Stephen Miller rises from his coffin early to make shit up and hate on POC’s, immigrants, women, and cute little puppies.

Why would anyone retweet or post Miller based accusations?

Are you aware at all of what he’s about?

(Don’t answer that)

:lol:
Attack the messenger when he’s telling the truth that you don’t like
No. I’m attacking his penchant for lying. He does it non-stop. You should realize this but I understand why you can’t.

You and Elon…gullibility is your game. Congrats!
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Is This The Beginning Of The End For Authentic Leadership?
Those paying even minimal attention to current events in the nation’s capital are aware they are witnessing a fundamental shift in governance that challenges the conventional wisdom about the value of leader authenticity. A leadership style characterized by message flexibility, diminished transparency, and limited accountability has taken hold, diverging sharply from traditional notions of authentic leadership.

Increasingly, public leaders reverse positions without explanation. They excel at perception management, crafting emotionally resonant narratives while evading factual scrutiny. They apply a different standard to their behavior than they do to the behavior of others. They embrace false equivalencies. Decisions are made based on power dynamics rather than on a foundation of mutual trust. Should a failure of leadership occur, accountability is absent. Blame shifts elsewhere, explanations contradict observable reality, and mistakes become someone else’s problem. A striking example of this shift occurred earlier this week when administration officials casually shared sensitive war plans on social media. Such an incident would have triggered immediate accountability measures in other leadership environments. Instead, the reaction in Washington has been remarkably nonchalant, illustrating how thoroughly expectations of leader authenticity have eroded.

Yet, for many followers, the inconsistency that would previously have been taken as a disregard for our expectations of a leader is instead framed as refreshing honesty. Leader authenticity has been replaced with something very different; something that defies conventional expectations and prioritizes emotional resonance over factual accuracy and behavioral consistency.

The current political landscape presents a sobering reality: followers increasingly demand validation rather than seeking authentic leadership. Leaders readily comply, perhaps because authentic leadership requires considerable intentional effort, whereas simply affirming grievances does not. The success of approaches that evade accountability, prioritize perception over reality, and treat consistency as optional reflects a retreat from leadership's most demanding aspects. Have our leaders realized that authentic leadership—admittedly more costly to demonstrate—no longer yields a worthwhile return on investment? If followers prioritize emotional validation over factual accuracy, prefer simplistic narratives to complex truths, and find comfort in the mere appearance of strength, the time and emotional labor required for authenticity may seem unjustified.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:55 am Is This The Beginning Of The End For Authentic Leadership?
Those paying even minimal attention to current events in the nation’s capital are aware they are witnessing a fundamental shift in governance that challenges the conventional wisdom about the value of leader authenticity. A leadership style characterized by message flexibility, diminished transparency, and limited accountability has taken hold, diverging sharply from traditional notions of authentic leadership.

Increasingly, public leaders reverse positions without explanation. They excel at perception management, crafting emotionally resonant narratives while evading factual scrutiny. They apply a different standard to their behavior than they do to the behavior of others. They embrace false equivalencies. Decisions are made based on power dynamics rather than on a foundation of mutual trust. Should a failure of leadership occur, accountability is absent. Blame shifts elsewhere, explanations contradict observable reality, and mistakes become someone else’s problem. A striking example of this shift occurred earlier this week when administration officials casually shared sensitive war plans on social media. Such an incident would have triggered immediate accountability measures in other leadership environments. Instead, the reaction in Washington has been remarkably nonchalant, illustrating how thoroughly expectations of leader authenticity have eroded.

Yet, for many followers, the inconsistency that would previously have been taken as a disregard for our expectations of a leader is instead framed as refreshing honesty. Leader authenticity has been replaced with something very different; something that defies conventional expectations and prioritizes emotional resonance over factual accuracy and behavioral consistency.

The current political landscape presents a sobering reality: followers increasingly demand validation rather than seeking authentic leadership. Leaders readily comply, perhaps because authentic leadership requires considerable intentional effort, whereas simply affirming grievances does not. The success of approaches that evade accountability, prioritize perception over reality, and treat consistency as optional reflects a retreat from leadership's most demanding aspects. Have our leaders realized that authentic leadership—admittedly more costly to demonstrate—no longer yields a worthwhile return on investment? If followers prioritize emotional validation over factual accuracy, prefer simplistic narratives to complex truths, and find comfort in the mere appearance of strength, the time and emotional labor required for authenticity may seem unjustified.
This is a fantastic piece. :nod:
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kalm wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:51 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:34 am

Attack the messenger when he’s telling the truth that you don’t like
No. I’m attacking his penchant for lying. He does it non-stop. You should realize this but I understand why you can’t.

You and Elon…gullibility is your game. Congrats!
What did he lie about and that tweet about traitor Mayorkas and flying in illegal aliens ?

Nothing
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kalm wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:08 am
This is a fantastic piece. :nod:
If you can link an article about Biden’s lack of leadership from this guy, I will actually read it, but until you do that the author is a leftist hack
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:12 am
kalm wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:51 am

No. I’m attacking his penchant for lying. He does it non-stop. You should realize this but I understand why you can’t.

You and Elon…gullibility is your game. Congrats!
What did he lie about and that tweet about traitor Mayorkas and flying in illegal aliens ?

Nothing
JFC… :rofl:

1) Miller makes up shit constantly.

2). There’s zero credible evidence.

The entire idea should set off red flags for anyone not completely immersed in the cult.

Please try and do better. :lol:
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:15 am
kalm wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:08 am

This is a fantastic piece. :nod:
If you can link an article about Biden’s lack of leadership from this guy, I will actually read it, but until you do that the author is a leftist hack
This an example of how gullible you are.

Question everything in life, CH. including your own thoughts. You’ll be a better person for it. :thumb:.
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kalm wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:45 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:15 am

If you can link an article about Biden’s lack of leadership from this guy, I will actually read it, but until you do that the author is a leftist hack
This an example of how gullible you are.

Question everything in life, CH. including your own thoughts. You’ll be a better person for it. :thumb:.
I’m still waiting on you ….
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:26 am
kalm wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:45 am

This an example of how gullible you are.

Question everything in life, CH. including your own thoughts. You’ll be a better person for it. :thumb:.
I’m still waiting on you ….
That’s because you’re a follower by nature with little to no natural skepticism or curiosity.

You can follow me now if you’d like but I’ll suggest things like going to libraries, learning to apply critical thinking, verifying sources, questioning everything in life, etc.

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kalm wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:32 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:26 am

I’m still waiting on you ….
That’s because you’re a follower by nature with little to no natural skepticism or curiosity.

You can follow me now if you’d like but I’ll suggest things like going to libraries, learning to apply critical thinking, verifying sources, questioning everything in life, etc.

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You mean like what I’m doing right now
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 7:23 am
kalm wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:32 am

That’s because you’re a follower by nature with little to no natural skepticism or curiosity.

You can follow me now if you’d like but I’ll suggest things like going to libraries, learning to apply critical thinking, verifying sources, questioning everything in life, etc.

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You mean like what I’m doing right now
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:12 am
kalm wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:51 am

No. I’m attacking his penchant for lying. He does it non-stop. You should realize this but I understand why you can’t.

You and Elon…gullibility is your game. Congrats!
What did he lie about and that tweet about traitor Mayorkas and flying in illegal aliens ?

Nothing
Here’s go, CH. your boy, Stephen Miller being truthful yet again. 99% of MAGA will still believe him though. :rofl:

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kalm wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:20 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 12:38 pm

I'm supposed to quantify 3 months of Trump's policies versus four years of Biden's. You are a joke.
The loss of trust in the U.S. and as an ally in the last 3 months alone will take years to repair. And that clock doesn’t even start until 2027 at the earliest.

Economic recovery from the likely upcoming recession will also take years. Especially for the working class

Then there’s the loss of environmental regulations and protections.

He’s been a busy little beaver.

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That'll quickly be rectified once the US starts dumping money into the EU and takes on all their conflicts. For someone with shit militaries, they sure do fight a lot.

Environmental regs and protections? You are grasping and cannot back up that statement.
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kalm wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:32 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:26 am

I’m still waiting on you ….
That’s because you’re a follower by nature with little to no natural skepticism or curiosity.

You can follow me now if you’d like but I’ll suggest things like going to libraries, learning to apply critical thinking, verifying sources, questioning everything in life, etc.
And then be wrong 98% of the time! :rofl:
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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:27 pm
kalm wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:20 pm

The loss of trust in the U.S. and as an ally in the last 3 months alone will take years to repair. And that clock doesn’t even start until 2027 at the earliest.

Economic recovery from the likely upcoming recession will also take years. Especially for the working class

Then there’s the loss of environmental regulations and protections.

He’s been a busy little beaver.

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That'll quickly be rectified once the US starts dumping money into the EU and takes on all their conflicts. For someone with shit militaries, they sure do fight a lot.

Environmental regs and protections? You are grasping and cannot back up that statement.
Christ dude, avoiding environmental regulations was a cornerstone of the “free” trade, globalization movement. China is catching up now. I’m guessing their massive middle class is calling for it.

Read some history.
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