The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread

[css75]

How well did CNN do with Russia collusion? A big fat old zero. Trump was not guilty.

Most of National Review hates Trump, except three or four contributers. They rate up there with Hotair if you want to get a conservative Trump dislike view.

CNN's reporting on the Mueller investigation was generally accurate. With respect to the Mueller investigation: It did not find sufficient evidence to charge anybody with a crime associated with conspiracy to with the Russian Government with respect to two specific Russian government efforts. It did find evidence that members of the Trump campaign cooperated with Russians. For example: It found that the Trump campaign director shared internal campaign polling data pertaining to key midwestern States with a guy associated with Russian intelligence. But the investigators did not charge, in part, because they did not know how those polling data were used.

Many of the things the media reported with respect to the Russia investigation that Trump called "fake news" turned out to be true. For instance: Trump telling McGahn to write a false memo on Trump telling him to get rid of Mueller.

No collusion, end of discussion.


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[CID1990]

Senior NSC aide who actually listened in on the phone call contradicts what the leaker & the Lt Col said:



https://www.nationalreview.com/news/lat ... ranscript/

Yet you have fake news CNN, Wa Po, etc with headlines saying the exact opposite, that Morrisons testimony corroborated the other's testimony..

One guy saw it differently. Interesting. Does his opinion negate someone elses? Is that how it works?

Morrison’s remarks are a problem, though. If there’s ambiguity about Trump’s phone call (and it is the phone call itself that is at the center of this)... you make it less likely that there will be a trial in the Senate.

I think Bolton’s testimony is going to determine how this goes. He knows what Trump wanted and will articulate it.

Sondland is in deep kimchee over possible perjury and Bolton will likely clarify that as well

We really ARE in opposite upside down world these days

[SeattleGriz]

One guy saw it differently. Interesting. Does his opinion negate someone elses? Is that how it works?

Morrison’s remarks are a problem, though. If there’s ambiguity about Trump’s phone call (and it is the phone call itself that is at the center of this)... you make it less likely that there will be a trial in the Senate.

I think Bolton’s testimony is going to determine how this goes. He knows what Trump wanted and will articulate it.

Sondland is in deep kimchee over possible perjury and Bolton will likely clarify that as well

We really ARE in opposite upside down world these days

I'm betting Boloton won't testify.

[kalm]

Senior NSC aide who actually listened in on the phone call contradicts what the leaker & the Lt Col said:

“I want to be clear, I was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed,” Morrison said in remarks to Congress.

Morrison also disputed the account of a conversation that Ambassador Bill Taylor described in his testimony to Congress last week. Taylor recalled Morrison telling him about a separate conversation between U.S. ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland and one of Zelensky’s top advisers, in which Sondland told the adviser that the military aid was contingent on Zelensky’s willingness to publicly announce a probe into Burisma.

“My recollection is that Ambassador Sondland’s proposal to Yermak was that it could be sufficient if the new Ukrainian prosecutor general, not President Zelensky, would commit to pursue the Burisma investigation,” Morrison told lawmakers.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/lat ... ranscript/

Yet you have fake news CNN, Wa Po, etc with headlines saying the exact opposite, that Morrisons testimony corroborated the other's testimony..

“I wasn’t concerned that anything illegal was discussed.”

Well I guess that settles it then.

[SeattleGriz]

Senior NSC aide who actually listened in on the phone call contradicts what the leaker & the Lt Col said:



https://www.nationalreview.com/news/lat ... ranscript/

Yet you have fake news CNN, Wa Po, etc with headlines saying the exact opposite, that Morrisons testimony corroborated the other's testimony..

“I wasn’t concerned that anything illegal was discussed.”

Well I guess that settles it then.

That and the fact the Ukrainians agree with the assessment. No quid quo pro.

[kalm]

“I wasn’t concerned that anything illegal was discussed.”

Well I guess that settles it then.

That and the fact the Ukrainians agree with the assessment. No quid quo pro.

“I wasn’t concerned that anything legal was going on.”

- John Gotti’s driver

[SeattleGriz]

That and the fact the Ukrainians agree with the assessment. No quid quo pro.

“I wasn’t concerned that anything legal was going on.”

- John Gotti’s driver

Lol. Comparing the Ukrainian President to Gotti's driver is hilarious.

[kalm]

“I wasn’t concerned that anything legal was going on.”

- John Gotti’s driver

Lol. Comparing the Ukrainian President to Gotti's driver is hilarious.

It wasn’t a comparison, it was an example. If you SD, and BDK applied consistent standards of evidence and testimony you would have been chanting ‘lock him up’ long ago.

But...orange guy good.

[CAA Flagship]

That and the fact the Ukrainians agree with the assessment. No quid quo pro.

“I wasn’t concerned that anything legal was going on.”

- John Gotti’s driver

Careful, kalmy. Or you may see a couple of large black sedans pull up on your runway.

[SeattleGriz]

Lol. Comparing the Ukrainian President to Gotti's driver is hilarious.

It wasn’t a comparison, it was an example. If you SD, and BDK applied consistent standards of evidence and testimony you would have been chanting ‘lock him up’ long ago.

But...orange guy good.

It was an example? Your example essentially called the Ukrainian President and Morrison liars. That's quite the claim.

I'll take the word of the man who was speaking to Trump over those that want to make up their own narrative.

Orange man good. Lol. We both know what is going on here.

[BDKJMU]

1st presidential impeachment inquiry in modern history authorized by members of only 1 party.

Meanwhile, Pelosi reneges on impeachment ‘must be a bipartisan initiative’..
https://mobile.twitter.com/bennyjohnson ... 6925477888? The First Presidential Impeachment Inquiry In Modern History Authorized By Members Of Only One Party ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1190300146925477888&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fvideos.whatfinger.com%2F2019%2F11%2F01%2Fpelosi-vs-pelosi-if-impeachment-happens-it-has-to-be-a-bipartisan-initiative-busted-in-19-sec-clip%2F

[UNI88]

That and the fact the Ukrainians agree with the assessment. No quid quo pro.

“I wasn’t concerned that anything legal was going on.”

- John Gotti’s driver

Anything legal?

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[89Hen]

IMO inaccurate and misleading are VERY different things. Misleading is an intentional act and therefore "fake". Fake designer jeans are made to look like the real thing on purpose.

I can see your point. I didn't see it that way.

Still, nobody would be saying "fake news" if POTUS hadn't started saying it about everything that's critical about him or about something he doesn't like.

And nobody would be saying "doubling down" until MSM started using it 100x a day for the last couple years. Catchy sayings catch on.

[Ibanez]

Morrison’s remarks are a problem, though. If there’s ambiguity about Trump’s phone call (and it is the phone call itself that is at the center of this)... you make it less likely that there will be a trial in the Senate.

I think Bolton’s testimony is going to determine how this goes. He knows what Trump wanted and will articulate it.

Sondland is in deep kimchee over possible perjury and Bolton will likely clarify that as well

We really ARE in opposite upside down world these days

I'm betting Boloton won't testify.

I thought I read that he testifies next week. Maybe it’s hit deputy I’m thinking of.


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[Ibanez]

1st presidential impeachment inquiry in modern history authorized by members of only 1 party.

Meanwhile, Pelosi reneges on impeachment ‘must be a bipartisan initiative’..
https://mobile.twitter.com/bennyjohnson ... 6925477888? The First Presidential Impeachment Inquiry In Modern History Authorized By Members Of Only One Party ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1190300146925477888&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fvideos.whatfinger.com%2F2019%2F11%2F01%2Fpelosi-vs-pelosi-if-impeachment-happens-it-has-to-be-a-bipartisan-initiative-busted-in-19-sec-clip%2F

Yeah. The Dems gave the Reps what they asked for. I guess they didn’t want open hearings and due process.


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[Ibanez]

I can see your point. I didn't see it that way.

Still, nobody would be saying "fake news" if POTUS hadn't started saying it about everything that's critical about him or about something he doesn't like.

And nobody would be saying "doubling down" until MSM started using it 100x a day for the last couple years. Catchy sayings catch on.

does that mean critical reporting or unflattering facts are a lie?


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[SDHornet]

Lol. Comparing the Ukrainian President to Gotti's driver is hilarious.

It wasn’t a comparison, it was an example. If you SD, and BDK applied consistent standards of evidence and testimony you would have been chanting ‘lock him up’ long ago.

But...orange guy good.

Huh? So innocents needs to be proven and not the other way around?

[SDHornet]

1st presidential impeachment inquiry in modern history authorized by members of only 1 party.

Meanwhile, Pelosi reneges on impeachment ‘must be a bipartisan initiative’..
https://mobile.twitter.com/bennyjohnson ... 6925477888? The First Presidential Impeachment Inquiry In Modern History Authorized By Members Of Only One Party ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1190300146925477888&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fvideos.whatfinger.com%2F2019%2F11%2F01%2Fpelosi-vs-pelosi-if-impeachment-happens-it-has-to-be-a-bipartisan-initiative-busted-in-19-sec-clip%2F

Yeah. The Dems gave the Reps what they asked for. I guess they didn’t want open hearings and due process.


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Or they think the whole thing is a sham. If there was something to this, I have not doubt that plenty of the "Never Trumper" conks (think JSO types) would have voted in favor of this. Remember, only one side of Schiffs private hearings have been leaked to the media so far

[CID1990]

Yeah. The Dems gave the Reps what they asked for. I guess they didn’t want open hearings and due process.


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Or they think the whole thing is a sham. If there was something to this, I have not doubt that plenty of the "Never Trumper" conks (think JSO types) would have voted in favor of this. Remember, only one side of Schiffs private hearings have been leaked to the media so far

Ultimately there has to be a public hearing so although Schiff is trying to shape public opinion with the leaks right now, it will all eventually be out



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[BDKJMU]

1st presidential impeachment inquiry in modern history authorized by members of only 1 party.

Meanwhile, Pelosi reneges on impeachment ‘must be a bipartisan initiative’..
https://mobile.twitter.com/bennyjohnson ... 6925477888? The First Presidential Impeachment Inquiry In Modern History Authorized By Members Of Only One Party ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1190300146925477888&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fvideos.whatfinger.com%2F2019%2F11%2F01%2Fpelosi-vs-pelosi-if-impeachment-happens-it-has-to-be-a-bipartisan-initiative-busted-in-19-sec-clip%2F

Yeah. The Dems gave the Reps what they asked for. I guess they didn’t want open hearings and due process.


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No the Dems didn’t give the Reps what they asked for- Fair and Open hearings with Due Process. The ‘Fair’ and ‘Due Process’ parts got left out.

[CID1990]

Yeah. The Dems gave the Reps what they asked for. I guess they didn’t want open hearings and due process.


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No the Dems didn’t give the Reps what they asked for- Fair and Open hearings with Due Process. The ‘Fair’ and ‘Due Process’ parts got left out.

I don’t think we’ve reached that point yet. They can decide to ponder impeachment behind closed doors

But they have to pursue it in the open. Don’t buy the GOO spin on this - they’re acting like Dems on the fainting couches right now


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[CID1990]

Yeah. The Dems gave the Reps what they asked for. I guess they didn’t want open hearings and due process.


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No the Dems didn’t give the Reps what they asked for- Fair and Open hearings with Due Process. The ‘Fair’ and ‘Due Process’ parts got left out.

I don’t think we’ve reached that point yet. They can decide to ponder impeachment behind closed doors

But they have to pursue it in the open. Don’t buy the GOO spin on this - they’re acting like Dems on the fainting couches right now


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[SeattleGriz]

I'm betting Boloton won't testify.

I thought I read that he testifies next week. Maybe it’s hit deputy I’m thinking of.


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I could be wrong. Just betting he won't. He probably would like to work in Washington DC again.

[SeattleGriz]

It wasn’t a comparison, it was an example. If you SD, and BDK applied consistent standards of evidence and testimony you would have been chanting ‘lock him up’ long ago.

But...orange guy good.

Huh? So innocents needs to be proven and not the other way around?

Don't ask him about Michael Mann. Nothing is true about him, even court case rulings if Kalm doesn't like the source.

[kalm]

It wasn’t a comparison, it was an example. If you SD, and BDK applied consistent standards of evidence and testimony you would have been chanting ‘lock him up’ long ago.

But...orange guy good.

Huh? So innocents needs to be proven and not the other way around?

1) CS is not a court of law. I don't like the Dems either but you guys are working really hard to defend Trump.

2). * innocence