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U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.

It is not known whether the intelligence agencies informed the Army that one of its officers was seeking to connect with suspected al Qaeda figures, the officials said.

One senior lawmaker said the CIA had, so far, refused to brief the intelligence committees on what, if any, knowledge they had about Hasan's efforts.

CIA director Leon Panetta and the Director of National Intelligence, Dennis Blair, have been asked by Congress "to preserve" all documents and intelligence files that relate to Hasan, according to the lawmaker.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood ... id=9030873

If true, heads should roll.

As much as I hate to say it, this is a good case study for wiretaps.

If one terrorist had managed to infiltrate the armed forces...how many more do you think are still in?

dbackjon wrote:If true, heads should roll.

I wonder if ky jelly is still sure this wasn't a terrorist act?

AZGrizFan wrote:

dbackjon wrote:If true, heads should roll.

I wonder if ky jelly is still sure this wasn't a terrorist act?

Someone really thinks what happened at Ft. Hood was not terrorism...

The FBI defines terrorism as "The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."

http://terrorism.about.com/od/whatister ... rism_6.htm

So, if one intelligence agency (apprently the CIA in this case) had knowledge that Hasan was even trying to contact a known terrorist organization, and that wasn't shared with the Army counter-intelligence agency (CID), then the system really is broke...

AZGrizFan wrote:

dbackjon wrote:If true, heads should roll.

I wonder if ky jelly is still sure this wasn't a terrorist act?

I never said this wasn't an act of terrorism. I was saying the day it happened that it was too early to know what his motive was.

New information is coming out that is definetely pointing to the dude being a radical muslim. I think his motive is more clear now.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
I wonder if ky jelly is still sure this wasn't a terrorist act?

I never said this wasn't an act of terrorism. I was saying the day it happened that it was too early to know what his motive was.

New information is coming out that is definetely pointing to the dude being a radical muslim. I think his motive is more clear now.

Was Sept 11, 2001 to early to guess that was an act of terrorism?

clenz wrote:Was Sept 11, 2001 to early to guess that was an act of terrorism?

Not even remotely comparable events.

The hero of this incident, Kimberly Munley, is likely related to me somehow.

My mom's maiden name is Munley -- which is a rare variant of the more common spelling "Munnelly." The name comes from almost exclusively County Mayo in Ireland, and the name is rare even in those parts, in either spelling. Only 37 "Munleys," most of whom were related, came through Ellis Island.

This young woman took a bullet in bringing this tragedy to an end. She is certainly every bit the hero as Capt. Sullenberger.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
I wonder if ky jelly is still sure this wasn't a terrorist act?

I never said this wasn't an act of terrorism. I was saying the day it happened that it was too early to know what his motive was.

New information is coming out that is definetely pointing to the dude being a radical muslim. I think his motive is more clear now.

If something walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and shits like a duck----it's probably a duck.

JoltinJoe wrote:The hero of this incident, Kimberly Munley, is likely related to me somehow.

My mom's maiden name is Munley -- which is a rare variant of the more common spelling "Munnelly." The name comes from almost exclusively County Mayo in Ireland, and the name is rare even in those parts, in either spelling. Only 37 "Munleys," most of whom were related, came through Ellis Island.

This young woman took a bullet in bringing this tragedy to an end. She is certainly every bit the hero as Capt. Sullenberger.

She says she doesn't want to be called a hero.

JoltinJoe wrote:The hero of this incident, Kimberly Munley, is likely related to me somehow.

My mom's maiden name is Munley -- which is a rare variant of the more common spelling "Munnelly." The name comes from almost exclusively County Mayo in Ireland, and the name is rare even in those parts, in either spelling. Only 37 "Munleys," most of whom were related, came through Ellis Island.

This young woman took a bullet in bringing this tragedy to an end. She is certainly every bit the hero as Capt. Sullenberger.

Thank you for your service JJ....

dbackjon wrote:If true, heads should roll.

Political heads should roll, not bureaucratic heads!

By banning the use of the word "terrorist," attacking the intelligence agencies, downplaying the war on terror and encouraging a bureaucratic atmosphere of extreme political correctness, the responsibility lies squarely with the Obama administration and its allies.

JoltinJoe wrote:The hero of this incident, Kimberly Munley, is likely related to me somehow.

My mom's maiden name is Munley -- which is a rare variant of the more common spelling "Munnelly." The name comes from almost exclusively County Mayo in Ireland, and the name is rare even in those parts, in either spelling. Only 37 "Munleys," most of whom were related, came through Ellis Island.

This young woman took a bullet in bringing this tragedy to an end. She is certainly every bit the hero as Capt. Sullenberger.

Best wishes for your kith and kin, Joe!

Skjellyfetti wrote:

clenz wrote:Was Sept 11, 2001 to early to guess that was an act of terrorism?

Not even remotely comparable events.

Allah Akbar! Allah Akbar! Bang! Bang! Bang!

I guess you must be right, skelly. The 9/11 perps used planes instead of guns.

Instances like this make you wonder whether parts of the Patriot Act were all bad - I'm all about first amendment and the right against unlawful search and seizure, but lives are sometimes lost by not acting on info in your grasp.

Appaholic wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote:The hero of this incident, Kimberly Munley, is likely related to me somehow.

My mom's maiden name is Munley -- which is a rare variant of the more common spelling "Munnelly." The name comes from almost exclusively County Mayo in Ireland, and the name is rare even in those parts, in either spelling. Only 37 "Munleys," most of whom were related, came through Ellis Island.

This young woman took a bullet in bringing this tragedy to an end. She is certainly every bit the hero as Capt. Sullenberger.

Thank you for your service JJ....

I'm not entitled to take pride in the heroism of a Munley?

bobbythekidd wrote:As much as I hate to say it, this is a good case study for wiretaps.

Not a big deal for an active duty officer. You sign your privacy away when you join the military.

JoltinJoe wrote:

Appaholic wrote:
Thank you for your service JJ....

I'm not entitled to take pride in the heroism of a Munley?

I know, just hadn't fokked with you in a while since I've grown weary of D1B's redundant threads attacking your religion....

native wrote:

bobbythekidd wrote:As much as I hate to say it, this is a good case study for wiretaps.

Not a big deal for an active duty officer. You sign your privacy away when you join the military.

Agree....but certainly not a justification for those of us who decide not to sign away our privacy....

Skjellyfetti wrote:

clenz wrote:Was Sept 11, 2001 to early to guess that was an act of terrorism?

Not even remotely comparable events.

WTF? All perpetrators from both events were out to kill Americans due to their religious beliefs.......END OF STORY.

mainejeff wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:
Not even remotely comparable events.

WTF? All perpetrators from both events were out to kill Americans due to their religious beliefs.......END OF STORY.

Apparently ky bases things on quantity.

bobbythekidd wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote:The hero of this incident, Kimberly Munley, is likely related to me somehow.

My mom's maiden name is Munley -- which is a rare variant of the more common spelling "Munnelly." The name comes from almost exclusively County Mayo in Ireland, and the name is rare even in those parts, in either spelling. Only 37 "Munleys," most of whom were related, came through Ellis Island.

This young woman took a bullet in bringing this tragedy to an end. She is certainly every bit the hero as Capt. Sullenberger.

She says she doesn't want to be called a hero.

We use the term HERO way too much in this country, but this woman is a hero in my book.......my only wish is that she would have blown his head off!

ASUG8 wrote:Instances like this make you wonder whether parts of the Patriot Act were all bad - I'm all about first amendment and the right against unlawful search and seizure, but lives are sometimes lost by not acting on info in your grasp.

Or, we could just outlaw handgun ownership since we're deciding to have a fire sale on our constitutionally guaranteed rights....they're are certainly more people who exercise thy're right to privacy than exercise they're right to own a gun, so shouldn't we impact the least amount of people when "voluntarily" giving up our rights to feel safe?