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The Ugandan legislature is considering a bill that would enhance sentencing for gay people to include the death penalty for “repeat offenders”, among other “aggravated homosexuality” offenses, and life imprisonment for others. This bill, needless to say, is considered inhumane by most of the West and, indeed, anyone who cares about human right.

But rather than consider how their barbarism is viewed by the civilized world, Uganda’s political leadership thinks this reflects positively on them. (IPS)

But Uganda’s ethics and integrity minister sees the uproar surrounding the Bill as a positive sign that Uganda is “providing leadership” to the world. The minister, James Nsaba Buturo, tells IPS he is happy the Bill is causing a lot of debate globally.

“It is with joy we see that everyone is interested in what Uganda is doing, and it is an opportunity for Uganda to provide leadership where it matters most. So we are here to see a piece of legislation that will not only define what the country stands for, but actually provide leadership around the world,” he says.

Predatory homosexuals”
John Kakembo, of the Seventh Day Adventist Church, also questioned the death sentence, but otherwise praised the bill. He also repeated Mwesigye’s suggestion that the definition of victims be expanded for compensation. He justified this by calling all gay people predatory, claiming that he was targeted by foreigners when he was younger.


Anglican Leaders also spoke in favor of the bill, but they did express reservations about the dealth penalty as well, but other than that, treat Gays as shit.

http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/11/02/16160

Uganda Member of Parliament David Bahati, who introduced the Anti-Homosexuality bill into Parliament last month, was part of this prayer meeting, which resulted in his being selected as one of eight MP’s to serve on the Christian “servant leadership team” in Parliament for three years. Also at that meeting and included in that gang of eight was MP Benson Obua-Ogwa, who has been identified as one of the cosponsors who helped Bahati draft the Anti-Homosexuality Bill that is now before Parliament.

The U.S.-based College of Prayer International has extensive ties throughout Africa. After having worked elsewhere in Uganda, COP established a campus in Kampala, Uganda last April, with the specific intent of targeting Uganda government officials for recruitment:

The team consisted of Fred and Sherry Hartley, Mike Plunket, Joel Kangas, Julius Oyett and Rian Seipler. We were all amazed at what God is doing to transform this country. In the wake of civil war and bloodshed is a desire to seek the Lord and rule according to His righteous principles. We had two mornings with members of Parliament and we witnessed their earnest desire to pray and seek God for protection and guidance in their duties as heads of state. Join us in praying for this group of believers who want to establish a College of Prayer among the governmental leaders of Uganda.

The College of Prayer’s Third Quarter 2009 Report (PDF: 540KB/11 pages) identifies the Kampala branch as “one of our most exciting advances as the government open its doors to host the second module of the COP.” Is was that second module that was reported on in last week’s New Vision article. That meeting followed a larger African Prayer Summit held in Abidjan, Cote d’Ivoire July 21-25, with four more days of additional College of Prayer training. According to the COP’s report, MP Obua-Ogwal was also at that summit, where he heaped praise on the COP gathering:

http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/11/09/16475

Christians in Africa are leading the anti-gay charge, supported by evangelicals in the United States.

Tell me again how Christians are better than Muslims?

dbackjon wrote:Christians in Africa are leading the anti-gay charge, supported by evangelicals in the United States.

Tell me again how Christians are better than Muslims?

Theocracy isn't good in any situation. This is our biggest problem with Israel, the Muslim world, and the FAR right Theocratic groups.

It's about time a country takes a REAL stand on homos.

dbackjon wrote:Christians in Africa are leading the anti-gay charge, supported by evangelicals in the United States.

Tell me again how Christians are better than Muslims?

They are not better than muslims, hence why 100's of thousands get their heads cut off by machetes.


Do you really care about an African country and what they do? Why.

If you dont like it, dont go there. The only country I care about is the one I live in, everything else is out of my control and I dont give a damn what they do. They could cut up children to spice up their chili and it means nothing to me. I just wont live there.

Oh and quit trying to push the liberal American agenda on the rest of the world that why they hate us so much right? Wouldnt want Hussein Obama to have to apologize anymore that would take away from his "job performance".

You missed the part about US involvement. Christians in the US would like to do the same. And I am concerned about civil rights everywhere.

dbackjon wrote:You missed the part about US involvement. Christians in the US would like to do the same. And I am concerned about civil rights everywhere.

BULLSHIT!

Unless the human rights violation is against gays, (you) and the LGBT community turn a blind eye. THAT is why the American LGBT activist community has no credibility.

Human rights are just that: Affording equal protection for ALL humans. Be they gay, straight, blonde, Latino, Asian, American, Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Atheist, Ugandan or whatever.

Acknowledge that, and you're in the red zone.








Hell...even Cap'n has rights...





...well...

bobbythekidd wrote:It's about time a country takes a REAL stand on homos.

Oh Bobbo you crack me up.

Uganda is definitely off the bucket list. Absolutely asinine that they would do such a thing. Leadership my ass!!! Ignorance is bliss.

wkuhillhound wrote:Uganda is definitely off the bucket list. Absolutely asinine that they would do such a thing. Leadership my ass!!! Ignorance is bliss.

Oh sweet Jeebus!! Tell me you did not use Uganda and bucket list in the same sentence!

bobbythekidd wrote:

wkuhillhound wrote:Uganda is definitely off the bucket list. Absolutely asinine that they would do such a thing. Leadership my ass!!! Ignorance is bliss.

Oh sweet Jeebus!! Tell me you did not use Uganda and bucket list in the same sentence!

But, but they have a chicken on their flag!

Bullshit back at you. Gays and lesbians have been at the forefront of equality for all.

dbackjon wrote:Christians in Africa are leading the anti-gay charge, supported by evangelicals in the United States.

Tell me again how Christians are better than Muslims?

Christians debate the issue. Muslims do not debate. They simply imprison and execute.

The debate in Uganda may be misguided, but you are not living in Uganda. There is panic there because of a massive epidemic and deaths.

dbackjon wrote:You missed the part about US involvement. Christians in the US would like to do the same.

Bullshit.

dbackjon wrote:...And I am concerned about gay rights everywhere.

FIFY!

dbackjon wrote:... Gays and lesbians have been at the forefront of self-validation and self-aggrandizement at the expense of the rest of society.

FIFY!

native wrote:

dbackjon wrote:... Gays and lesbians have been at the forefront of self-validation and self-aggrandizement at the expense of the rest of society.

FIFY!

Sounds like Wall Street..

It is difficult to change a society overnight, but Uganda has been making progress on human rights issue since the end of the Amin regime.

The reason this legislation will likely not pass in Uganda is because of opposition from the Roman Catholic Church and the growing influence of the Church in that country. Catholics are now 40% of the Ugandan population and, although they remain a religious minority, they are now more numerous than any other Christian group.

(Incidentally, the law in question imposes a death penalty for being HIV positive and having unprotected sex without disclosing it -- not simply because someone is gay. No doubt, this is regressive legislation, but it does not impose the death penalty for being gay).

Chizzang wrote:

native wrote:
FIFY!

Sounds like Wall Street..

Indeed!

dbackjon wrote:Bullshit back at you. Gays and lesbians have been at the forefront of equality for all.

They are in it for themselves........

native wrote:Christians debate the issue.

PRETEND to debate the issue.

native wrote:

dbackjon wrote:You missed the part about US involvement. Christians in the US would like to do the same.

Bullshit.

dbackjon wrote:...And I am concerned about gay rights everywhere.

FIFY!

I am glad persecution and torture and death is a joking matter to you.

dbackjon wrote:

native wrote:
Bullshit.



FIFY!

I am glad persecution and torture and death is a joking matter to you.

I am not joking. I understand and sympathize with your concerns, but it appears to me that gay rights trump every other consideration in your book and affect both your judgment and powers of observation.

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:

dbackjon wrote:Christians in Africa are leading the anti-gay charge, supported by evangelicals in the United States.

Tell me again how Christians are better than Muslims?

They are not better than muslims, hence why 100's of thousands get their heads cut off by machetes.


Do you really care about an African country and what they do? Why.

If you dont like it, dont go there. The only country I care about is the one I live in, everything else is out of my control and I dont give a damn what they do. They could cut up children to spice up their chili and it means nothing to me. I just wont live there.

Oh and quit trying to push the liberal American agenda on the rest of the world that why they hate us so much right? Wouldnt want Hussein Obama to have to apologize anymore that would take away from his "job performance".

Nice attitude, Chamberlain.