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...And While Were Discussing the NY Terrorism Trial...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:23 am
by Appaholic
...further proof IMO that this trial is no more than a legal dog-n-pony show for the Obama administration.
From interview with Chuck Todd:
TODD:
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed - can you understand why it is offensive to some for this terrorist to get all the legal privileges of any American citizen?
OBAMA:
I don't think it will be offensive at all when he's convicted and when the death penalty is applied to him.
TODD:
But having that kind of confidence of a conviction - I mean one of the purposes of doing - going to the Justice Department and not military court is to show of the the world our fairness in our court system.
OBAMA:
Well --
TODD:
But you also just said that he was going to be convicted and given the death penalty.
OBAMA:
Look - what I said was people will not be offended if that's the outcome. I'm not pre-judging; I'm not going to be in that courtroom, that's the job of prosecutors, the judge and the jury.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/ ... 30523.aspx
Riiigghhttt......This decision could be the turning point in his popularity nationwide. Obama's approval has fallen 4% since the announcement. A cynic could make the claim that this administration is more concerned with presenting a fair trial to an admitted terrorist for world opinion than they seem to be concerned with Americans getting back to work.....just sayin...

Re: ...And While Were Discussing the NY Terrorism Trial...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:51 pm
by HI54UNI
The decision to do this in federal court will cost Obama a 2nd term. Talk about a f'd up mess.
What are they going to do when KSM asks for a change of venue?
How much evidence is going to be inadmissable because KSM wasn't read his Miranda rights?
How much evidence is going to be withheld because the govt can't reveal its sources?
KSM isn't going to walk but if he doesn't get the death penalty people are going to be pissed.
Re: ...And While Were Discussing the NY Terrorism Trial...
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:57 pm
by CID1990
HI54UNI wrote:The decision to do this in federal court will cost Obama a 2nd term. Talk about a f'd up mess.
What are they going to do when KSM asks for a change of venue?
How much evidence is going to be inadmissable because KSM wasn't read his Miranda rights?
How much evidence is going to be withheld because the govt can't reveal its sources?
KSM isn't going to walk but if he doesn't get the death penalty people are going to be pissed.
No, it won't. He has lots more idiocy left to display.
By the time 2012 rolls around, this rookie will have stepped on his crank so badly and so many times that this latest idiot move will be just one of many to choose from.
Re: ...And While Were Discussing the NY Terrorism Trial...
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:48 am
by JoltinJoe
HI54UNI wrote:The decision to do this in federal court will cost Obama a 2nd term. Talk about a f'd up mess.
What are they going to do when KSM asks for a change of venue?
How much evidence is going to be inadmissable because KSM wasn't read his Miranda rights?
How much evidence is going to be withheld because the govt can't reveal its sources?
KSM isn't going to walk but if he doesn't get the death penalty people are going to be pissed.
And what happens now if/when we catch Osama bin Laden? The precedent is set.
Re: ...And While Were Discussing the NY Terrorism Trial...
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:45 am
by Col Hogan
JoltinJoe wrote:HI54UNI wrote:The decision to do this in federal court will cost Obama a 2nd term. Talk about a f'd up mess.
What are they going to do when KSM asks for a change of venue?
How much evidence is going to be inadmissable because KSM wasn't read his Miranda rights?
How much evidence is going to be withheld because the govt can't reveal its sources?
KSM isn't going to walk but if he doesn't get the death penalty people are going to be pissed.
And what happens now if/when we catch Osama bin Laden? The precedent is set.
Did you see the Sen. Graham/AG Holder exchange on OBL...
Senator Graham asked a simple question: Mr. Holder, if we catch Bin Laden, are you going to read him his Miranda Rights???
Holder would not answer...
Very telling...
Re: ...And While Were Discussing the NY Terrorism Trial...
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:48 am
by JoltinJoe
Col Hogan wrote:JoltinJoe wrote:
And what happens now if/when we catch Osama bin Laden? The precedent is set.
Did you see the Sen. Graham/AG Holder exchange on OBL...
Senator Graham asked a simple question: Mr. Holder, if we catch Bin Laden, are you going to read him his Miranda Rights???
Holder would not answer...
Very telling...
Didn't see that, but that's awful. bin Laden is a war criminal; perhaps we should avoid the issue by administering battlefield justice.
Re: ...And While Were Discussing the NY Terrorism Trial...
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:27 am
by catamount man
The Obama administration is nothing but a bunch of leftist PUSSIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raise taxes to pay for their health cost, while 10.2% of Americans are still out of jobs
Civil trials for war criminals
has still not "brought the country together"
This is NOT on the job training!!!!!!!!! I am laughing my fat fucking ass off as this administration buries theirselves for 2012. Hell, didn't Obama actually say to a group in China that he may NOT even run for re-election in 2012?!
Meanwhile, the "chimp" is sitting back puffing on big cigar whilst Laura pleases him orally, cackling on the way. At this rate, I expect Reagan-Mondale '84 numbers in 2012 should the lord and saviour run again.
Re: ...And While Were Discussing the NY Terrorism Trial...
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:44 am
by Ivytalk
JoltinJoe wrote:Col Hogan wrote:
Did you see the Sen. Graham/AG Holder exchange on OBL...
Senator Graham asked a simple question: Mr. Holder, if we catch Bin Laden, are you going to read him his Miranda Rights???
Holder would not answer...
Very telling...
Didn't see that, but that's awful. bin Laden is a war criminal; perhaps we should avoid the issue by administering battlefield justice.
Beat me to it! "Gee, Colonel, I was escorting Osama to the brig when my M-16 went off. Word!"
Re: ...And While Were Discussing the NY Terrorism Trial...
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:19 am
by Col Hogan
JoltinJoe wrote:Col Hogan wrote:
Did you see the Sen. Graham/AG Holder exchange on OBL...
Senator Graham asked a simple question: Mr. Holder, if we catch Bin Laden, are you going to read him his Miranda Rights???
Holder would not answer...
Very telling...
Didn't see that, but that's awful. bin Laden is a war criminal; perhaps we should avoid the issue by administering battlefield justice.
I think most combat troops would not throw away the chance to administer "on-the-spot" justice...and since I would expect OBL's protective detail to put up a good fight...I don't think it will even come to that...

Re: ...And While Were Discussing the NY Terrorism Trial...
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:29 am
by Ibanez
HI54UNI wrote:The decision to do this in federal court will cost Obama a 2nd term. Talk about a f'd up mess.
What are they going to do when KSM asks for a change of venue?
How much evidence is going to be inadmissable because KSM wasn't read his Miranda rights?
How much evidence is going to be withheld because the govt can't reveal its sources?
KSM isn't going to walk but if he doesn't get the death penalty people are going to be pissed.
Pat Buchannen was right. He was ranting why other terrorist were held to the Geneva Convention standards yet this guy isnt'.
Re: ...And While Were Discussing the NY Terrorism Trial...
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:16 pm
by JoltinJoe
Col Hogan wrote:JoltinJoe wrote:
Didn't see that, but that's awful. bin Laden is a war criminal; perhaps we should avoid the issue by administering battlefield justice.
I think most combat troops would not throw away the chance to administer "on-the-spot" justice...and since I would expect OBL's protective detail to put up a good fight...I don't think it will even come to that...

Well, since apparently he has a right to remain silent, let's make sure he exercises it.

Re: ...And While Were Discussing the NY Terrorism Trial...
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:43 pm
by AZGrizFan
CID1990 wrote:HI54UNI wrote:The decision to do this in federal court will cost Obama a 2nd term. Talk about a f'd up mess.
What are they going to do when KSM asks for a change of venue?
How much evidence is going to be inadmissable because KSM wasn't read his Miranda rights?
How much evidence is going to be withheld because the govt can't reveal its sources?
KSM isn't going to walk but if he doesn't get the death penalty people are going to be pissed.
No, it won't.
He has lots more idiocy left to display.
By the time 2012 rolls around, this rookie will have stepped on his crank so badly and so many times that this latest idiot move will be just one of many to choose from.

Damn it! Who put "bow" on the teleprompter??? Everyone KNOWS Obama will do WHATEVER it says on the teleprompter!!!