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Still waiting for him to be the strong leader we wanted thim to be. Expected a decision to get out of the wars by now, for example. Expected much more and not digging him letting Conks push him around. Too much same-old stuff.

Hoping he picks up his game soon.

Cap'n Cat wrote:Still waiting for him to be the strong leader we wanted thim to be. Expected a decision to get out of the wars by now, for example. Expected much more and not digging him letting Conks push him around. Too much same-old stuff.

Hoping he picks up his game soon.

Years ago, when I first heard that planned on running in 2008 my first thought was 'He isn't ready yet'. I think I was right.

BlueHen86 wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:Still waiting for him to be the strong leader we wanted thim to be. Expected a decision to get out of the wars by now, for example. Expected much more and not digging him letting Conks push him around. Too much same-old stuff.

Hoping he picks up his game soon.

Years ago, when I first heard that planned on running in 2008 my first thought was 'He isn't ready yet'. I think I was right.

I vaguely remember around 47% of the population saying that about him





I'll say you started it though whenever it's brought up

wideright82 wrote:

BlueHen86 wrote:
Years ago, when I first heard that planned on running in 2008 my first thought was 'He isn't ready yet'. I think I was right.

I vaguely remember around 47% of the population saying that about him





I'll say you started it though whenever it's brought up

at least he didn't need to have the supreme court step in and seat him because a majority of the population wanted the other guy.

OSBF wrote:

wideright82 wrote:

I vaguely remember around 47% of the population saying that about him





I'll say you started it though whenever it's brought up

at least he didn't need to have the supreme court step in and seat him because a majority of the population wanted the other guy.

yeah..... good point Fuck you AMERICA and your stupid Electoral rules!

wideright82 wrote:

OSBF wrote:
at least he didn't need to have the supreme court step in and seat him because a majority of the population wanted the other guy.

yeah..... good point Fuck you AMERICA and your stupid Electoral rules!

Really. When are we going to get rid of that antiquated system?

BlueHen86 wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:Still waiting for him to be the strong leader we wanted thim to be. Expected a decision to get out of the wars by now, for example. Expected much more and not digging him letting Conks push him around. Too much same-old stuff.

Hoping he picks up his game soon.

Years ago, when I first heard that planned on running in 2008 my first thought was 'He isn't ready yet'. I think I was right.

Joe Biden agreed with you. Right up to the point where he offered him the VP slot.

BlueHen86 wrote:

Cap'n Cat wrote:Still waiting for him to be the strong leader we wanted thim to be. Expected a decision to get out of the wars by now, for example. Expected much more and not digging him letting Conks push him around. Too much same-old stuff.

Hoping he picks up his game soon.

Years ago, when I first heard that planned on running in 2008 my first thought was 'He isn't ready yet'. I think I was right.

Joe Biden agreed with you. Right up to the point where he offered him the VP slot.

Cap'n Cat wrote:Still waiting for him to be the strong leader we wanted thim to be. Expected a decision to get out of the wars by now, for example. Expected much more and not digging him letting Conks push him around. Too much same-old stuff.

Hoping he picks up his game soon.

Agreed Cap'n.

The difference between liberals and conservatives........we don't need 8 years to figure out things aren't going well.

mainejeff wrote:The difference between liberals and conservatives........we don't need 8 years to figure out things aren't going well.

and won't blindly follow because that's what all the talking heads on fox tell us to do

mainejeff wrote:The difference between liberals and conservatives........we don't need 8 years to figure out things aren't going well.

W's approval rating wasn't below 50 until after that election.

OSBF wrote:

mainejeff wrote:The difference between liberals and conservatives........we don't need 8 years to figure out things aren't going well.

and won't blindly follow because that's what all the talking heads on fox tell us to do

Oh yeah, because Anderson Coopers head is a much better one to follow blindly

Cap'n Cat wrote:Still waiting for him to be the strong leader we wanted thim to be. Expected a decision to get out of the wars by now, for example. Expected much more and not digging him letting Conks push him around. Too much same-old stuff.

Hoping he picks up his game soon.

Another liberal mugged by reality! Barry should change his middle name to "Hamlet," what with all the self-absorbed dithering and pious indecision! He's a callow youth in way over his head, surrounded by Europhile morons.

wideright82 wrote:

mainejeff wrote:The difference between liberals and conservatives........we don't need 8 years to figure out things aren't going well.

W's approval rating wasn't below 50 until after that election.

Yeah cause 9/11 helped him big time. Everyone rallied around him and then he lead us nowhere.

Obama proves all politicians are the same and we're fucked no matter who we vote for.

slycat wrote:

wideright82 wrote:

W's approval rating wasn't below 50 until after that election.

Yeah cause 9/11 helped him big time. Everyone rallied around him and then he lead us nowhere.

I know that. Missing my point it seems.

OSBF wrote:

wideright82 wrote:

I vaguely remember around 47% of the population saying that about him





I'll say you started it though whenever it's brought up

at least he didn't need to have the supreme court step in and seat him because a majority of the population wanted the other guy.

Another LIB wanting to trash our country and the constitution!

Imagine that.

wideright82 wrote:

slycat wrote:
Yeah cause 9/11 helped him big time. Everyone rallied around him and then he lead us nowhere.

I know that. Missing my point it seems.

Yup.

Cap'n Cat wrote:Still waiting for him to be the strong leader we wanted thim to be. Expected a decision to get out of the wars by now, for example. Expected much more and not digging him letting Conks push him around. Too much same-old stuff.

Hoping he picks up his game soon.

Me, too, Cap. With only a bit more dedication to his lunatic base, he could further alienate the kids and independents who elected him and push his already slipping poll numbers to historically abysmal new lows.

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:

OSBF wrote:
at least he didn't need to have the supreme court step in and seat him because a majority of the population wanted the other guy.

Another LIB wanting to trash our country and the constitution!

Imagine that.

Just go jack off on your guns with your picture of jesus and you'll feel beter

Yeah, change appears to have been little more than a slogan. Although I didn't vote for him, I was hoping for something different (specifically ending the wars, closing Gitmo, and ending DADT). Unfortunately, none of that has happened. It is so hard not to be apathetic with the two parties controlling everything and changing nothing.

Cap'n Cat wrote:Still waiting for him to be the strong leader we wanted thim to be. Expected a decision to get out of the wars by now, for example. Expected much more and not digging him letting Conks push him around. Too much same-old stuff.

Hoping he picks up his game soon.

HA! He would never make Afghanistan or Iraq a "Vietnam" by pulling out. I, for one, hope he lives up to his ex pectations.

Meanwhile, something tells me that 35,000 to 40,000 Marines are getting ready to be deployed. It might be water cooler talk and the daily interaction with MARCORSYSCOM, but we're going in there, pushing our numbers to over 100,000 soilders and Marines. We'll go in the middle, and begin to head North (because we headed South last time).


Just a feeling.

OSBF wrote:

wideright82 wrote:

I vaguely remember around 47% of the population saying that about him





I'll say you started it though whenever it's brought up

at least he didn't need to have the supreme court step in and seat him because a majority of the population wanted the other guy.

Do you really want to claim a bunch of people that don't know how to follow the box and vote correctly? The ballot was not THAT confusing.

Ibanez wrote:

OSBF wrote:
at least he didn't need to have the supreme court step in and seat him because a majority of the population wanted the other guy.

Do you really want to claim a bunch of people that don't know how to follow the box and vote correctly? The ballot was not THAT confusing.

I'm not saying at all that people were not able to vote correctly. It is a fact that more Americans wanted Gore than Bush, and the Supreme Court had to step in and seat Bush. At the time, it was probably the right thing to do as the country needed closure, it needed to be over.