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http://apnews.excite.com/article/200802 ... FJ0O0.html
Against overwhelming odds, Mike Huckabee keeps brushing off calls to drop his presidential bid for the good of the Republican Party. The former Arkansas governor and ordained Baptist minister is following in the footsteps of past spoilers such as Republican Ronald Reagan in 1976 and Democratic Sen. Edward M. Kennedy in 1980, who both pressed uphill primary challenges to the limits.

I believe the longer he stays in, the more it hurts McCain's chances in the long run. If McCain ends up losing this, I place the blame squarely on Huck Finn's shoulders. At least Romney had the good sense to get the f&ck out of the way and let McCain get on with it.
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Some GOP sages suggest it's hard to quit while you're still winning races, as Huckabee is doing, despite the mathematical reality of the delegate count. But then Huckabee likes to brag that he "didn't major in math, I majored in miracles," and he asserted anew on Monday his intention to stay in the race.
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AZGrizFan wrote:http://apnews.excite.com/article/200802 ... FJ0O0.html
Against overwhelming odds, Mike Huckabee keeps brushing off calls to drop his presidential bid for the good of the Republican Party. The former Arkansas governor and ordained Baptist minister is following in the footsteps of past spoilers such as Republican Ronald Reagan in 1976 and Democratic Sen. Edward M. Kennedy in 1980, who both pressed uphill primary challenges to the limits.

I believe the longer he stays in, the more it hurts McCain's chances in the long run. If McCain ends up losing this, I place the blame squarely on Huck Finn's shoulders. At least Romney had the good sense to get the f&ck out of the way and let McCain get on with it.
If McCain has any hope of winning, he needs to run far, far away from this fruitcake.

Statements like this that the Huckster just made at Liberty Univ should concern all patriotic Americans:
Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee has won electoral contests by focusing his pitch to religious conservatives around the country. And in a Sunday visit to the church of the deceased Rev. Jerry Falwell, Huckabee threw that base some more red meat.

"We really don’t need a lot of law if we’re people of morality," Huckabee said at the Thomas Road Baptist Church in Lynchburg, Virginia, according to a report in the Lynchburg News Advance. "There are only 10 basic laws that we need … the reason that the law is more complicated is because we try to find clever ways around those 10."

Additional reports at CBS News showed Huckabee taking his statement a step farther.

"I hope you know Jesus Christ personally…because the level to which he rules you and governs you, you need less and less of man’s law to tell you how to live and that is what our Founding Fathers understood and we must understand," he preached.
thus advocating the overthrow of the US as we know it, replacing with an Old Testament theocracy. The First Amendment directly counters the first four commandments, and actually, they are not laws - only a few (against murder, adultery, coveting) could be directly correlated to any law.
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Huckabee has to realize that is is mathematically impossible to win. McCain has 3 times the number of delegates. Hopefully the contests today, will open huck's eyes.
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And thus, I'm torn...do I vote in the Democratic primary (anti-Clinton vote)...

Or do I vote in the republican Primary (anti-huckabee vote)...

Decisions, decisions...
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Col Hogan wrote:And thus, I'm torn...do I vote in the Democratic primary (anti-Clinton vote)...

Or do I vote in the republican Primary (anti-huckabee vote)...

Decisions, decisions...

I battled with the same problem. I'll vote for Obama if he gets the nom.
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MarkCCU wrote:Huckabee has to realize that is is mathematically impossible to win. McCain has 3 times the number of delegates. Hopefully the contests today, will open huck's eyes.
Have you actually bothered to do the math, Mark?

Sure, it's not likely. According to one guy at CBS, Huckabee would have to win every remaining winner-take-all primary and caucus AND every proportional one with an 85-15 margin. I'll grant you not likely. But impossible? No way.

BTW, the same guy did a count with Huckabee winning everything at just over 50%. In that scenario, the race would be decided at the Convention. Again, not likely, but it's irresponsible at best to say that's it's mathematically impossible, Mark.
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SuperHornet wrote:
MarkCCU wrote:Huckabee has to realize that is is mathematically impossible to win. McCain has 3 times the number of delegates. Hopefully the contests today, will open huck's eyes.
Have you actually bothered to do the math, Mark?

Sure, it's not likely. According to one guy at CBS, Huckabee would have to win every remaining winner-take-all primary and caucus AND every proportional one with an 85-15 margin. I'll grant you not likely. But impossible? No way.

BTW, the same guy did a count with Huckabee winning everything at just over 50%. In that scenario, the race would be decided at the Convention. Again, not likely, but it's irresponsible at best to say that's it's mathematically impossible, Mark.
My point (and I think Mark's point) is that while it may not be mathematically IMPOSSIBLE, the odds are so astronomical that, at this point, all Huckleberry is doing is damaging the chances of McCain winning the general election. While I despised a lot of things about Romney, at least he had the good sense to get the f7ck out of the way when he knew there was a better chance of him winning the lottery than winning the Rep party nomination for President. Every day Huckleberry hangs around more and more damage is done to McCain's campaign. The only thing I can hope is that, after today, the mathematical calculation WILL be impossible. Then, if he hangs around, it's purely out of spite. :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Col Hogan wrote:And thus, I'm torn...do I vote in the Democratic primary (anti-Clinton vote)...

Or do I vote in the republican Primary (anti-huckabee vote)...

Decisions, decisions...
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Huckleberry hound is a bozo, and of no help to any campaign.
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And the Huckster rolls on
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SuperHornet wrote: Have you actually bothered to do the math, Mark?

Sure, it's not likely. According to one guy at CBS, Huckabee would have to win every remaining winner-take-all primary and caucus AND every proportional one with an 85-15 margin. I'll grant you not likely. But impossible? No way.

BTW, the same guy did a count with Huckabee winning everything at just over 50%. In that scenario, the race would be decided at the Convention. Again, not likely, but it's irresponsible at best to say that's it's mathematically impossible, Mark.
My point (and I think Mark's point) is that while it may not be mathematically IMPOSSIBLE, the odds are so astronomical that, at this point, all Huckleberry is doing is damaging the chances of McCain winning the general election. While I despised a lot of things about Romney, at least he had the good sense to get the f7ck out of the way when he knew there was a better chance of him winning the lottery than winning the Rep party nomination for President. Every day Huckleberry hangs around more and more damage is done to McCain's campaign. The only thing I can hope is that, after today, the mathematical calculation WILL be impossible. Then, if he hangs around, it's purely out of spite. :evil: :evil: :evil:
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I like Huckabee but he wants a Theocracy.(Super Hornet, i know he hasn't said that but he has said he'd want to put God in the governmnet in more places, etc....).

The Seperation of Church and State is very important to the Republic we call the USA.
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Why the continued reference to a non-existent doctrine, Mark? There is ZERO in the Constitution about a separation between church and state. That merely comes from one line from a letter taken WAY out of context.

All we conservatives care about is the presence of Godly ideas in politics, not the enforcement of one faith group over another.

BTW, not all conservatives are voting Huckabee. I'm about as conservative as they come, yet I'd take McCain over Huckabee any day of the week because of all candidates in this campaign, only McCain is going to do anything to support the world's best Navy. I really wish the stinking media would quit this whitewashing of us as ALL for Huckabee. Now, I'd be happy with either. But McCain comes before Huckabee on MY list.
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SuperHornet wrote:Why the continued reference to a non-existent doctrine, Mark? There is ZERO in the Constitution about a separation between church and state. That merely comes from one line from a letter taken WAY out of context.

All we conservatives care about is the presence of Godly ideas in politics, not the enforcement of one faith group over another.

BTW, not all conservatives are voting Huckabee. I'm about as conservative as they come, yet I'd take McCain over Huckabee any day of the week because of all candidates in this campaign, only McCain is going to do anything to support the world's best Navy. I really wish the stinking media would quit this whitewashing of us as ALL for Huckabee. Now, I'd be happy with either. But McCain comes before Huckabee on MY list.
And there is nothing in the Constitution ABOUT God either...
There is the part in the Bill of Rights guaranteeing freedom of, and from religion. The "letter out of context" I think you are refering to is actually a treaty.

It is very clear that the Founding Fathers did not want an overly religious influence on the new Republic. People are free to be religious, but they did not want ANY religion guiding public policy, which is 100% correct.

Public Policy should be guided on what is best for the citizens of the United States.

God, The Bible, or "Godly Ideas", whatever that means, have no business influencing law, or public policy. If the best course for our country in a particular area happens to agree with a "Godly Idea", then great, it should not be reject on that account, either.

Of course, if you are dead set on Godly Ideas, you must first determine whose Godly Ideas you are going to use, and whose interpretation of such is best.
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Like Montana did with Wofford?
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mass fan wrote:Like Montana did with Wofford?
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

THAT'S the best you've got? 8-)
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SuperHornet wrote:Why the continued reference to a non-existent doctrine, Mark? There is ZERO in the Constitution about a separation between church and state. That merely comes from one line from a letter taken WAY out of context.

All we conservatives care about is the presence of Godly ideas in politics, not the enforcement of one faith group over another.

BTW, not all conservatives are voting Huckabee. I'm about as conservative as they come, yet I'd take McCain over Huckabee any day of the week because of all candidates in this campaign, only McCain is going to do anything to support the world's best Navy. I really wish the stinking media would quit this whitewashing of us as ALL for Huckabee. Now, I'd be happy with either. But McCain comes before Huckabee on MY list.
I didn't say that Seperation of Church and State was a doctrine. Once again, you're reading what you want, not what's typed. Oh, because it's capitilized? It's a basic idea that drew people to this country and that we have today.
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MarkCCU wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:Why the continued reference to a non-existent doctrine, Mark? There is ZERO in the Constitution about a separation between church and state. That merely comes from one line from a letter taken WAY out of context.

All we conservatives care about is the presence of Godly ideas in politics, not the enforcement of one faith group over another.

BTW, not all conservatives are voting Huckabee. I'm about as conservative as they come, yet I'd take McCain over Huckabee any day of the week because of all candidates in this campaign, only McCain is going to do anything to support the world's best Navy. I really wish the stinking media would quit this whitewashing of us as ALL for Huckabee. Now, I'd be happy with either. But McCain comes before Huckabee on MY list.
I didn't say that Seperation of Church and State was a doctrine. Once again, you're reading what you want, not what's typed. Oh, because it's capitilized? It's a basic idea that drew people to this country and that we have today.

The only talk of religion, at length, in the Constitution is the 1st Amendment. Other than that, the most blatant reference to faith is in the Declaration of Independence:

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
mass fan wrote:Like Montana did with Wofford?
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

THAT'S the best you've got? 8-)
I can't think straight with that avatar in the corner. :lol:
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mass fan wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

THAT'S the best you've got? 8-)
I can't think straight with that avatar in the corner. :lol:
I have similar problems (thinking straight, that is). :P
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dbackjon wrote:
mass fan wrote: I can't think straight with that avatar in the corner. :lol:
I have similar problems (thinking straight, that is). :P
I'm trying to determine whether mass fan likes MY avatar or YOURS, jon?
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AZGrizFan wrote:
dbackjon wrote: I have similar problems (thinking straight, that is). :P
I'm trying to determine whether mass fan likes MY avatar or YOURS, jon?
No i don't like jons, it makes me think this is a gay site. :?
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mass fan wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: I'm trying to determine whether mass fan likes MY avatar or YOURS, jon?
No i don't like jons, it makes me think this is a gay site. :?
Not that there's anything WRONG with that.... :shock:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
mass fan wrote: No i don't like jons, it makes me think this is a gay site. :?
Not that there's anything WRONG with that.... :shock:
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