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Newsweek: America Still Needs The Neocons.....

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:29 pm
by Cap'n Cat
....and I agree.

Very good article on the present (de)generation of Conks that has cast a shadow over legitimate attempts at governming by operating in the hate-o-sphere.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/225637

"Neoconservatism: can there be a label more reviled? Condemned abroad, blamed for Iraq and Katrina, neoconservatism would seem dead and buried.

But not only will neoconservatism return, it remains the best hope for balanced two-party democracy in the United States.

The American right that has emerged since 2008, of Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh, is a movement of cultural protest. But protest is not enough. Americans won't reject even a badly damaged incumbent unless they see a credible alternative.

Neoconservatism's mission from the start has been to create such an alternative. As the late Irving Kristol wrote in 2003, "[T]he historical task of neoconservatism [is] to convert the Republican party, and American conservatism, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to governing a modern democracy."



Key words bolded.

It goes on to say:


"To provide it, America needs a practical, modern, secular conservatism that delivers results that benefit the ordinary voter. Maybe we need a new label. Neoneoconservatism anyone?"


Get with it, Conks. Apparently, we need you.

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:


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"In the final analysis, Rush, you suck."

Re: Newsweek: America Still Needs The Neocons.....

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:32 pm
by blueballs
Cap'n Cat wrote:....and I agree.

Very good article on the present (de)generation of Conks that has cast a shadow over legitimate attempts at governming by operating in the hate-o-sphere.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/225637

"Neoconservatism: can there be a label more reviled? Condemned abroad, blamed for Iraq and Katrina, neoconservatism would seem dead and buried.

But not only will neoconservatism return, it remains the best hope for balanced two-party democracy in the United States.

The American right that has emerged since 2008, of Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh, is a movement of cultural protest. But protest is not enough. Americans won't reject even a badly damaged incumbent unless they see a credible alternative.

Neoconservatism's mission from the start has been to create such an alternative. As the late Irving Kristol wrote in 2003, "[T]he historical task of neoconservatism [is] to convert the Republican party, and American conservatism, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to governing a modern democracy."



Key words bolded.

It goes on to say:


"To provide it, America needs a practical, modern, secular conservatism that delivers results that benefit the ordinary voter. Maybe we need a new label. Neoneoconservatism anyone?"


Get with it, Conks. Apparently, we need you.

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:


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"In the final analysis, Rush, you suck."
Cheney controlled the weather??? Cool...

Re: Newsweek: America Still Needs The Neocons.....

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:33 pm
by Pwns
We don't need to kick the religious right out of the GOP...we need to boot the warmongers, the globalists, the David Rockefeller republicans, and the blue-blooded country-club republicans. We need republicans that are less corporatist and more nationalist.

Re: Newsweek: America Still Needs The Neocons.....

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:08 pm
by Grizalltheway
Pwns wrote:We don't need to kick the religious right out of the GOP...we need to boot the warmongers, the globalists, the David Rockefeller republicans, and the blue-blooded country-club republicans. We need republicans that are less corporatist and more nationalist.
Now that I agree with. :thumb:

Re: Newsweek: America Still Needs The Neocons.....

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:23 pm
by Chizzang
Pwns wrote:We don't need to kick the religious right out of the GOP...we need to boot the warmongers, the globalists, the David Rockefeller republicans, and the blue-blooded country-club republicans. We need republicans that are less corporatist and more nationalist.
I think I love you...

Re: Newsweek: America Still Needs The Neocons.....

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:07 pm
by kalm
Pwns wrote:We don't need to kick the religious right out of the GOP...we need to boot the warmongers, the globalists, the David Rockefeller republicans, and the blue-blooded country-club republicans. We need republicans that are less corporatist and more nationalist.
And you can make that same argument about the dems...baucus, pelosi, Reid

Re: Newsweek: America Still Needs The Neocons.....

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:09 pm
by kalm
...Obama, Clinton. Problem is without public funding of elections you pretty much have to be a corporatist to get elected.

Re: Newsweek: America Still Needs The Neocons.....

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:17 pm
by Cap'n Cat
kalm wrote:...Obama, Clinton. Problem is without public funding of elections you pretty much have to be a corporatist to get elected.
Old.

:roll:

Re: Newsweek: America Still Needs The Neocons.....

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:19 pm
by Ivytalk
David Frum. Ho-hum. Every liberal's favorite conservative. Right down there with David Brooks and the insufferably wrongheaded Kevin Phillips. :coffee:

Re: Newsweek: America Still Needs The Neocons.....

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:31 pm
by native
Ivytalk wrote:David Frum. Ho-hum. Every liberal's favorite conservative. Right down there with David Brooks and the insufferably wrongheaded Kevin Phillips. :coffee:
I stopped considering Kevin Phillips a conservative years ago.

Re: Newsweek: America Still Needs The Neocons.....

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:10 pm
by kalm
native wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:David Frum. Ho-hum. Every liberal's favorite conservative. Right down there with David Brooks and the insufferably wrongheaded Kevin Phillips. :coffee:
I stopped considering Kevin Phillips a conservative years ago.
Bad Money (2008)
Kevin Phillips examines America's great shift from manufacturing to financial services. He also discuses America’s petroleum policies and the tying of the dollar to the price of oil. Phillips suggests that the Euro and the Chinese Yuan/Renminbi are favorites to take the dollar's place in countries hostile towards America, like Iran. He then tackles the lack of regulatory oversight employed in the housing market and how the housing boom was allowed to run free under Alan Greenspan. The book concludes with the proposal that America is employing bad capitalism and extends Gresham’s Law of currency to suggest that our good capitalism will be driven out by the bad. [6]


Yep, a whole bunch to disagree with there.

BTW, you guys forgot Andrew Sullivan, David Brock, and Arianna Huffington.