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Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:03 pm
by kalm
Why do Republicans hate working class americans and transportation safety? ;)


Published on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 by McClatchy Newspapers
Who's Running the TSA? No One, Thanks to Sen. Jim DeMint
by Margaret Talev

WASHINGTON — An attempt to blow up a trans-Atlantic flight from Amsterdam to Detroit on Christmas Day would be all-consuming for the administrator of the Transportation Security Administration — if there were one.

Soft on terror, but tough on unions. DeMint's objection creates a procedural hurdle that could take three days of debate and test votes to overcome, or could potentially be limited if Democrats offered DeMint a compromise. No one was taking conciliatory stance on Monday, however. One called DeMint's opposition "disgraceful."(AP) The post remains vacant because Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., has held up President Barack Obama's nominee in opposition to the prospect of TSA workers joining a labor union.

As al Qaida claimed responsibility Monday for the thwarted attack and President Barack Obama made a public statement about it, Democrats urged DeMint to drop his objection and allow quick confirmation of nominee Erroll Southers, a counterterrorism expert, when the Senate reconvenes in three weeks.

Obama, speaking from Hawaii, where he and his family are vacationing, told Americans, "We will not rest until we find all who were involved and hold them accountable."

Obama warned anyone plotting against the U.S. from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia or elsewhere that he doesn't intend to rest at simply strengthening defense.

The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee announced a hearing to be set for next month to examine how Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, a 23-year-old Nigerian whose name was in a terrorism database, boarded a plane with explosive material.

"Why aren't airline passengers flying into the U.S. checked against the broadest terrorist database and why isn't whole body scanning technology that can detect explosives in wider use?" said committee chairman Sen. Joseph Lieberman, a Connecticut independent.

Meanwhile, Florida Republican Rep. John Mica said in a statement that the TSA had grown lost and bloated in bureaucracy and called for a review.

Mica also said Congress "must change the process by which TSA administrators serve. There has been no TSA administrator for nearly a year and the next one will be the fifth in eight years. Running a security agency with a revolving door is a recipe for failure."

Janet Napolitano, the head of the Department of Homeland Security, of which the TSA is part, made the rounds of morning television news programs on Monday, backing away from her initial stance that the system had worked in averting attack.

She told NBC that "our system did not work in this instance. No one is happy or satisfied with that. An extensive review is under way."

Southers, a former FBI special agent, is the Los Angeles World Airports Police Department assistant chief for homeland security and intelligence. He also is the associate director of the University of Southern California's Center for Risk and Economic Analysis of Terrorism Events, and he served as a deputy director of homeland security for California Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Two Senate committees have given Southers their bipartisan blessing. An acting administrator is in place pending his confirmation.

Marshall McClain, the president of the Los Angeles Airport Peace Officers Association, said that the Senate should have acted sooner to confirm Southers.

"Friday's terrorist attack on U.S. aviation makes it all the more imperative that there be no further delays in filling this crucial position," he said.

DeMint said in a statement that the attempted attack "is a perfect example of why the Obama administration should not unionize the TSA." He wants Southers to clarify his stand on unionizing the TSA, a shift that Democrats support.

Without collective bargaining, DeMint said, the TSA has "flexibility to make real-time decisions that allowed it to quickly improve security measures in response to this attempted attack."

If organized labor got involved, DeMint said, union bosses would have the power "to veto or delay future security improvements at our airports."

He urged Obama to "re-think" supporting unionizing the TSA "and put the interests of American travelers ahead of organized labor."

DeMint also wants a Senate floor debate and roll call votes, not confirmation by consent as the Democrats sought.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., hadn't scheduled a floor vote for Southers before the Senate left town on Christmas Eve.

Reid spokesman Jim Manley said Monday that the majority leader is working with the White House to get Southers confirmed "as quickly as possible" and charged that "Republican obstructionism has prevented TSA from having the leadership in place that the organization deserves."

DeMint spokesman Wesley Denton said that Obama didn't nominate Southers until September, and he charged that Reid "has been too busy trading earmarks for votes on health care" to deal with DeMint's concerns.

DeMint's objection creates a procedural hurdle that could take three days of debate and test votes to overcome, or could potentially be limited if Democrats offered DeMint a compromise. No one was taking conciliatory stance on Monday, however. Manley called DeMint's opposition "disgraceful."

Lesley Clark contributed to this article.

© 2009 McClatchy Newspapers

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:06 pm
by AZGrizFan
kalm wrote:Meanwhile, Florida Republican Rep. John Mica said in a statement that the TSA had grown lost and bloated in bureaucracy and called for a review.

Mica also said Congress "must change the process by which TSA administrators serve. There has been no TSA administrator for nearly a year and the next one will be the fifth in eight years. Running a security agency with a revolving door is a recipe for failure."

Janet Napolitano, the head of the Department of Homeland Security, of which the TSA is part, made the rounds of morning television news programs on Monday, backing away from her initial stance that the system had worked in averting attack.

She told NBC that "our system did not work in this instance. No one is happy or satisfied with that. An extensive review is under way."
A) who would have EVER guessed that a government agency would become "bloated in bureaucracy". :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
B) Janet Napolitano is a complete imbicile. :coffee: :coffee: :ohno: :ohno:

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:31 pm
by Gil Dobie
AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:Meanwhile, Florida Republican Rep. John Mica said in a statement that the TSA had grown lost and bloated in bureaucracy and called for a review.

Mica also said Congress "must change the process by which TSA administrators serve. There has been no TSA administrator for nearly a year and the next one will be the fifth in eight years. Running a security agency with a revolving door is a recipe for failure."

Janet Napolitano, the head of the Department of Homeland Security, of which the TSA is part, made the rounds of morning television news programs on Monday, backing away from her initial stance that the system had worked in averting attack.

She told NBC that "our system did not work in this instance. No one is happy or satisfied with that. An extensive review is under way."
A) who would have EVER guessed that a government agency would become "bloated in bureaucracy". :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
B) Janet Napolitano is a complete imbicile. :coffee: :coffee: :ohno: :ohno:
Using bloated and government in the same sentence, preposterous :o

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:32 pm
by AZGrizFan
Gil Dobie wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
A) who would have EVER guessed that a government agency would become "bloated in bureaucracy". :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
B) Janet Napolitano is a complete imbicile. :coffee: :coffee: :ohno: :ohno:
Using bloated and government in the same sentence, preposterous :o
It's the Department of Redundancy Department. :coffee:

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:35 pm
by Gil Dobie
AZGrizFan wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
Using bloated and government in the same sentence, preposterous :o
It's the Department of Redundancy Department. :coffee:
Need a new nameplate for the DRD Czar :nod:

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:03 pm
by dbackjon
Yet you both dodge the issue. Why do you republicans hate America

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:41 pm
by CID1990
dbackjon wrote:Yet you both dodge the issue. Why do you republicans hate America
And attempting to shift blame to a conservative Senator after the fact of a terrorist breach of DHS security is not dodging the issue how?

TSA wants to join not just any labor union. While you are linky linky linking, how about look into what they want to do? If they all decise to strike, do you think that Obama and his Obamabots will fire them all, a la Reagan and the air traffic controllers? Nope.

Senator Demint is one of the few in Congress who does not have his head up his anus.

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:10 pm
by kalm
CID1990 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Yet you both dodge the issue. Why do you republicans hate America
And attempting to shift blame to a conservative Senator after the fact of a terrorist breach of DHS security is not dodging the issue how?

TSA wants to join not just any labor union. While you are linky linky linking, how about look into what they want to do? If they all decise to strike, do you think that Obama and his Obamabots will fire them all, a la Reagan and the air traffic controllers? Nope.

Senator Demint is one of the few in Congress who does not have his head up his anus.
Because he places politics (ie: fighting unionization) over national security? :thumb:

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:18 pm
by mainejeff
Republicans need to affect change by winning elections :thumb: ...not acting like 5 year old spoiled brats. :thumbdown:

:coffee:

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:12 pm
by Gil Dobie
dbackjon wrote:Yet you both dodge the issue. Why do you republicans hate America
Politicans Use and Abuse America, why would they hate it. :?

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:42 am
by houndawg
AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:Meanwhile, Florida Republican Rep. John Mica said in a statement that the TSA had grown lost and bloated in bureaucracy and called for a review.

Mica also said Congress "must change the process by which TSA administrators serve. There has been no TSA administrator for nearly a year and the next one will be the fifth in eight years. Running a security agency with a revolving door is a recipe for failure."

Janet Napolitano, the head of the Department of Homeland Security, of which the TSA is part, made the rounds of morning television news programs on Monday, backing away from her initial stance that the system had worked in averting attack.

She told NBC that "our system did not work in this instance. No one is happy or satisfied with that. An extensive review is under way."
A) who would have EVER guessed that a government agency would become "bloated in bureaucracy". :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
B) Janet Napolitano is a complete imbicile. :coffee: :coffee: :ohno: :ohno:
What is it about Arizona and complete imbeciles? They must have the perfect climate for them.

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:04 am
by Gil Dobie
houndawg wrote:What is it about Arizona and complete imbeciles? They must have the perfect climate for them.
I don't think Arizona has the market on imbeciles cornered. :rofl:

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Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:12 am
by ASUMountaineer
dbackjon wrote:Yet you both dodge the issue. Why do you republicans hate America
Sounds like there was a lot of dodging in Washington regarding TSA. :nod:

It took Obama 8 months to decide on who to nominate (which apparently means he loves America). Now we have a Republican senator being criticized for trying to hold up a vote (which apparently means he hates America) on said nominee. And, we have Reid, all of sudden, in a hurry to get the guy approved. Perhaps, not flying by the set of your pants as President, Senate Majority Leader, and Senator is a better option. :coffee:

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:21 am
by houndawg
The TSA has little if any effect on our safety, even if Batman were in charge of it, you have a better chance of being struck by lightning than by terrorists. All you pantywaists should stop whimpering about how tough it is to dominate the planet.

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:03 am
by AZGrizFan
Gil Dobie wrote:
houndawg wrote:What is it about Arizona and complete imbeciles? They must have the perfect climate for them.
I don't think Arizona has the market on imbeciles cornered. :rofl:

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A little "man-love" goin' on? :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl:

BAM!!!! Right in Houndawg's back yard!!!! :rofl: :rofl:

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:12 am
by mainejeff
Everything will be better after they build this.........

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:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:41 pm
by native
dbackjon wrote:Yet you both dodge the issue. Why do you republicans hate America
They do not hate America. Although most are big hearted, many do occasionally hate the assholes who routinely steal from and endanger their children.

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:03 pm
by YoUDeeMan
TSA is a joke...and a very intentionally bloated one at that. Most of the front line people they hire have an IQ of a turnip...idiots who can't come to work on time and who routinely look the other way while crap comes through the system. It has become a "hire your family member, friend, donor, etc." dumping ground. The people manning the security lines at the airports get paid little because they need no particular skill set. They hire large numbers of people because they believe all of those eyes might see something...and the added hope that terrorists will balk at the sight of all of those uniforms. That is the strategy folks; nothing more...nothing less. Seriously. The hires are not skilled workers, they are bodies to fill a numbers quota.

I spend a LOT of time at airports and, without disclosing why, it is absolutely scary to see what goes on behind the scenes. If terrorists really wanted to, they could be taking out planes on a daily basis. :nod:

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:40 pm
by CID1990
Cluck U wrote:TSA is a joke...and a very intentionally bloated one at that. Most of the front line people they hire have an IQ of a turnip...idiots who can't come to work on time and who routinely look the other way while crap comes through the system. It has become a "hire your family member, friend, donor, etc." dumping ground. The people manning the security lines at the airports get paid little because they need no particular skill set. They hire large numbers of people because they believe all of those eyes might see something...and the added hope that terrorists will balk at the sight of all of those uniforms. That is the strategy folks; nothing more...nothing less. Seriously. The hires are not skilled workers, they are bodies to fill a numbers quota.

I spend a LOT of time at airports and, without disclosing why, it is absolutely scary to see what goes on behind the scenes. If terrorists really wanted to, they could be taking out planes on a daily basis. :nod:
Agreed.

Why is it that TSA wants to organize? Because they want protections from their own incompetence. The most powerful unions and bargaining units in this country represent some of our most unskilled workers. The rest are in high liability jobs that routinely scapegoat the workers. I find it telling that Janet Napolitano is pushing for this. She is essentially trying to make it more difficult to get rid of the dead wood in the TSA. In other words, she is placing the welfare of TSA screeners over the safety of the people they are supposed to be trying to protect. Typical government bureaucrat, and all the left can do is b!tch about Jim DeMint.

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:10 am
by TwinTownBisonFan
this may be the greatest circle jerk of stupidity in a long time in DC... The TSA is perhaps the most completely useless organization in government (and i realize there are other useless ones... this one takes the cake). the only thing lamer than DeMint's needless hold on this appointment is that this needless agency exists at all.

properly titled - this is the office of security theater - fact is, having people wait in long lines and go through hassles creates the illusion of security - but as last week proved - that don't mean shit for flights that board in other countries...

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:16 am
by ASUMountaineer
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:this may be the greatest circle jerk of stupidity in a long time in DC... The TSA is perhaps the most completely useless organization in government (and i realize there are other useless ones... this one takes the cake). the only thing lamer than DeMint's needless hold on this appointment is that this needless agency exists at all.

properly titled - this is the office of security theater - fact is, having people wait in long lines and go through hassles creates the illusion of security - but as last week proved - that don't mean **** for flights that board in other countries...
+1

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:10 am
by CID1990
While TSA is issuing subpoenas to travel bloggers, Janet Napolitano is pushing for contractual employment that would give protections to the leaker they are trying to find.

That's not change we can believe in at all. That's business as usual in DC. Like the "no lobbyists" promise.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091231/ap_ ... _subpoenas

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:20 am
by Gil Dobie
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:this may be the greatest circle jerk of stupidity in a long time in DC... The TSA is perhaps the most completely useless organization in government (and i realize there are other useless ones... this one takes the cake). the only thing lamer than DeMint's needless hold on this appointment is that this needless agency exists at all.

properly titled - this is the office of security theater - fact is, having people wait in long lines and go through hassles creates the illusion of security - but as last week proved - that don't mean **** for flights that board in other countries...
Agree, and the same BS now exist at border crossings.

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:35 am
by Ibanez
The TSA, as stated previously by many gentlemen of this board, is an inconsequential, beaucratic waste of time, money and energy.

Re: Who's Running the TSA...No One

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:25 pm
by kalm
The TSA was created and run by the Bush administration until 2009. :coffee: