I don't want to start the whole debate about climate change again, but I found this to be pretty damn funny.
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:33 am
by Ivytalk
"'There is always the irony element,' Major said."
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:23 pm
by mainejeff
Big deal.......it's snowing in Denmark in the middle of winter!
What's happening with the polar ice caps?........that's what REALLY matters!
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:29 pm
by ASUMountaineer
mainejeff wrote:Big deal.......it's snowing in Denmark in the middle of winter!
What's happening with the polar ice caps?........that's what REALLY matters!
Well, quit heating up so much fucking coffee and you could keep the temperature down a bit, asshole.
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:37 pm
by AZGrizFan
Global Warming alarmists don't get irony. They've had their sense of humor bone removed.
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:51 pm
by mainejeff
AZGrizFan wrote:Global Warming alarmists don't get irony. They've had their sense of humor bone removed.
Palinites, Rushees, etc. think that Global Warming means that you can boil a cup of water in the sun.........effin idiots.
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:56 pm
by AZGrizFan
mainejeff wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Global Warming alarmists don't get irony. They've had their sense of humor bone removed.
Palinites, Rushees, etc. think that Global Warming means that you can boil a cup of water in the sun.........effin idiots.
You could do that in Arizona 300 years ago.
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:17 pm
by BlueHen86
AZGrizFan wrote:Global Warming alarmists don't get irony. They've had their sense of humor bone removed.
But it's not ironic. Ironic would have been if the protest were scheduled for the middle of the summer, and it snowed. This is just bad timing for the protesters.
It seems to me that the anti-global warming crowd are grasping at straws if they get excited every time it snows in winter.
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:22 pm
by dgreco
BlueHen86 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Global Warming alarmists don't get irony. They've had their sense of humor bone removed.
But it's not ironic. Ironic would have been if the protest were scheduled for the middle of the summer, and it snowed. This is just bad timing for the protesters.
It seems to me that the anti-global warming crowd are grasping at straws if they get excited every time it snows in winter.
so we could say this was coincidental, correct?
irony vs. coincidence often misunderstood
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:22 pm
by BlueHen86
dgreco wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
But it's not ironic. Ironic would have been if the protest were scheduled for the middle of the summer, and it snowed. This is just bad timing for the protesters.
It seems to me that the anti-global warming crowd are grasping at straws if they get excited every time it snows in winter.
so we could say this was coincidental, correct?
irony vs. coincidence often misunderstood
Yes. Irony is when the unexpected happens. There is nothing unexpected about snow in Denmark in December.
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:42 pm
by Col Hogan
So it's ironic that a climate related protest was shut down by the climate which coincidentally performed perfectly for the time of year...
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:09 pm
by BlueHen86
Col Hogan wrote:So it's ironic that a climate related protest was shut down by the climate which coincidentally performed perfectly for the time of year...
Nah, it's just a really bad bummer for the protesters.
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:19 pm
by CID1990
mainejeff wrote:Big deal.......it's snowing in Denmark in the middle of winter!
What's happening with the polar ice caps?........that's what REALLY matters!
Have those icecaps always been there?
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:45 pm
by mainejeff
CID1990 wrote:
mainejeff wrote:Big deal.......it's snowing in Denmark in the middle of winter!
What's happening with the polar ice caps?........that's what REALLY matters!
Have those icecaps always been there?
I don't know......have they?
Whether they have or not.......they are now melting at breakneck speed which happens to be a BIG bummer for those living in low-lying areas across the planet.
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:56 pm
by JayJ79
The protest in question was supposed to take place in Salt Lake City, not Denmark.
I'd reiterate the facts that "global warming" does not mean that EVERY place is getting warmer ALL the time, and that it instead refers to the GLOBAL averages, which causes all sorts of different climate changes around the world. But that fact is too complicated for many to grasp.
Personally, I've given up caring. The faster we humans kill ourselves off, the quicker the planet can recover it's ecosystems after we're gone.
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:17 pm
by mainejeff
JayJ79 wrote:Personally, I've given up caring. The faster we humans kill ourselves off, the quicker the planet can recover it's ecosystems after we're gone.
Pretty much the way that I feel too..........
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:19 pm
by Gil Dobie
JayJ79 wrote:Personally, I've given up caring. The faster we humans kill ourselves off, the quicker the planet can recover it's ecosystems after we're gone.
The planet will recover to a pure state ecosystem without humans, this can not occur if humans exist despite all the money algore is raising.
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:39 am
by travelinman67
Gil Dobie wrote:
JayJ79 wrote:Personally, I've given up caring. The faster we humans kill ourselves off, the quicker the planet can recover it's ecosystems after we're gone.
The planet will recover to a pure state ecosystem without humans, this can not occur if humans exist despite all the money algore is raising.
That's actually one of George Carlin's funniest and astute observations...
...watch the whole thing...it gets funnier as it goes on...
[youtube][/youtube]
...man...like a bad case of fleas...
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:49 am
by AZGrizFan
BlueHen86 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Global Warming alarmists don't get irony. They've had their sense of humor bone removed.
But it's not ironic. Ironic would have been if the protest were scheduled for the middle of the summer, and it snowed. This is just bad timing for the protesters.
It seems to me that the anti-global warming crowd are grasping at straws if they get excited every time it snows in winter.
And alarmists get excited every time it doesn't.
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:08 am
by BlueHen86
AZGrizFan wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
But it's not ironic. Ironic would have been if the protest were scheduled for the middle of the summer, and it snowed. This is just bad timing for the protesters.
It seems to me that the anti-global warming crowd are grasping at straws if they get excited every time it snows in winter.
And alarmists get excited every time it doesn't.
But it's supposed to snow in winter. When it doesn't it gives them a little ammo to use.
The issue isn't "Is the world warming up?", it's "Are we the cause of the world warming up?'
I think the answer to the first question is "yes" and the answer to the second question is "we don't know"
I tend to think that most protesters (especially the ones who protest stuff that they don't understand) are kooks, so by all means laugh at them for getting snowed out.
There are ponds near the house where I grew up that use to freeze every winter, I learned to play ice hockey on them. They don't freeze anymore, at least not enough to skate on them. I'm sympathetic to the global warming crowd, primarilily becasue I think we need to be prepared for global warming, even if we aren't the cause. Global warming is a debate worth having.
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:18 am
by AZGrizFan
BlueHen86 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
And alarmists get excited every time it doesn't.
But it's supposed to snow in winter. When it doesn't it gives them a little ammo to use.
The issue isn't "Is the world warming up?", it's "Are we the cause of the world warming up?'
I think the answer to the first question is "yes" and the answer to the second question is "we don't know"
I tend to think that most protesters (especially the ones who protest stuff that they don't understand) are kooks, so by all means laugh at them for getting snowed out.
There are ponds near the house where I grew up that use to freeze every winter, I learned to play ice hockey on them. They don't freeze anymore, at least not enough to skate on them. I'm sympathetic to the global warming crowd, primarilily becasue I think we need to be prepared for global warming, even if we aren't the cause. Global warming is a debate worth having.
86, I agree 100%. "Deniers" (as alarmists would have us labeled) simply don't like having faux science forced down our throats as fact, and then having entire governments/societies go through forced/mandated upheaval because of that faulty science.
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:05 am
by Chizzang
travelinman67 wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
The planet will recover to a pure state ecosystem without humans, this can not occur if humans exist despite all the money algore is raising.
That's actually one of George Carlin's funniest and astute observations...
...watch the whole thing...it gets funnier as it goes on...
[youtube][/youtube]
...man...like a bad case of fleas...
Agreed: Carlin nails it (as usual)
The next Ice Age can't get here fast enough..!!!
Hey T-man I like how you cherry pick Carlin on the points that go along with your ideology
Are you going to post the one where he explains just as logically and powerfully how stupid and arrogant the notion of Christianity is too..?
I suppose not...
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:16 pm
by CID1990
mainejeff wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Have those icecaps always been there?
I don't know......have they?
Whether they have or not.......they are now melting at breakneck speed which happens to be a BIG bummer for those living in low-lying areas across the planet.
Wow! Mainejeff, you have a lot of catch-up reading to do.
The polar icecaps have been in flux since there has been water on the planet. We have had countless periods where there were NO icecpas. Conversely, there have been periods where the north polar icecap has extended down south of what is now Pennsylvania. There was a time when parts of what is now Antarctica was covered by temperate rainforest, complete with dinosaurs. This cycle of warming and cooling will continue until our own sun turns into a red giant and burns all the water off and turns the planet to a cinder. Perhaps you should start planning for that, too. The people on the mountaintops will fry first. Think of all the snow bunnies!
Saying that the icecaps are shrinking is like saying the world is turning.
BTW- the southern icecap is not shrinking. It is adding ice.
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:27 pm
by travelinman67
CID1990 wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
I don't know......have they?
Whether they have or not.......they are now melting at breakneck speed which happens to be a BIG bummer for those living in low-lying areas across the planet.
Wow! Mainejeff, you have a lot of catch-up reading to do.
The polar icecaps have been in flux since there has been water on the planet. We have had countless periods where there were NO icecpas. Conversely, there have been periods where the north polar icecap has extended down south of what is now Pennsylvania. There was a time when parts of what is now Antarctica was covered by temperate rainforest, complete with dinosaurs. This cycle of warming and cooling will continue until our own sun turns into a red giant and burns all the water off and turns the planet to a cinder. Perhaps you should start planning for that, too. The people on the mountaintops will fry first. Think of all the snow bunnies!
Saying that the icecaps are shrinking is like saying the world is turning.
BTW- the southern icecap is not shrinking. It is adding ice.
Mainejeff does not study anything before opening his yapper. He is most likely the least educated/studied member of CS.Com. Ya gotta cut him a little slack...he likes parroting soundbites.
Re: Snowstorm squelches climate change protest
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:36 pm
by travelinman67
Chizzang wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
That's actually one of George Carlin's funniest and astute observations...
...watch the whole thing...it gets funnier as it goes on...
[youtube][/youtube]
...man...like a bad case of fleas...
Agreed: Carlin nails it (as usual)
The next Ice Age can't get here fast enough..!!!
Hey T-man I like how you cherry pick Carlin on the points that go along with your ideology
Are you going to post the one where he explains just as logically and powerfully how stupid and arrogant the notion of Christianity is too..?
I suppose not...
Yet, as deeply concerned as you appear about logical incongruities within Christianity, I hear little from the atheist/agnositic/Anti-Christian/Hate America/Self-Haters about the logical incongruities of Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, Taoism, Confucianism, Bahai, Judaism, Shintoism, Sikhism...
...or is that merely because the purpose is not to debate the incongruities, but to distract the debate from the obvious flaws and failed policies of liberalism?