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The Corporation

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:03 pm
by slycat
I watched a documentary called "The Corporation" and was amazed at the cost to health, environment, animals, and all things in our lives that Capitalism is causing.

With businesses become global and more powerful then governments its only a matter of time before everything is controlled by businesses and everything is a commodity.

Really corporations need to be held accountable for their actions.

I work as an environmental regulator for the state of Texas. Many of the larger companies who are causing the greatest amount of pollution and harm to the environment are doing nothing about it. This is because it is cheaper for them to pay the fines and penalties then to fix the problems. They have enough control of the government and powerful enough lawyers to ensure the laws are near impossible to change. The state cannot match the type of money that these companies can throw at any situation.

Re: The Corporation

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:08 pm
by CID1990
Spoken like Karl Marx himself!

Not that there isn't some truth to it.

It is just the remedy that comes to mind that is alarming. Gratifying in the short term, but bleak in the long term. Sort of like the French Revolution in a way.

Vive la Resistance!

Re: The Corporation

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:13 pm
by Wedgebuster
Money talks and BS walks. Nuff said.

Re: The Corporation

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:21 pm
by slycat
CID1990 wrote:Spoken like Karl Marx himself!

Not that there isn't some truth to it.

It is just the remedy that comes to mind that is alarming. Gratifying in the short term, but bleak in the long term. Sort of like the French Revolution in a way.

Vive la Resistance!
There really is no good solution. Government can't step in because then they have too much control and businesses aren't going to limit their profit if they don't have to.

People want power and money. And as long as those things are important to people there will always be problems.

And as stated in another thread, the rich people up top make all the decisions yet have no idea how the middle and poor class live.

Re: The Corporation

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:22 pm
by Chizzang
When Insurance companies start writing bills... Oh wait.. they already did..!!! :rofl:
Yes: Corporations control (to some degree) our politicians who in turn make sure things go their way

Just read some Ralph Nader and it'll all make sense :nod: he figured it our 30 years ago

Re: The Corporation

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:43 am
by kalm
Chizzang wrote:When Insurance companies start writing bills... Oh wait.. they already did..!!! :rofl:
Yes: Corporations control (to some degree) our politicians who in turn make sure things go their way

Just read some Ralph Nader and it'll all make sense :nod: he figured it our 30 years ago
But Ralph is very tedious to read. Besides, you can go back and check out some of Franklin or Teddy Roosevelt's speeches and realize they figured it out even further back. :thumb:

Re: The Corporation

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:49 am
by Ivytalk
kalm wrote:
Chizzang wrote:When Insurance companies start writing bills... Oh wait.. they already did..!!! :rofl:
Yes: Corporations control (to some degree) our politicians who in turn make sure things go their way

Just read some Ralph Nader and it'll all make sense :nod: he figured it our 30 years ago
But Ralph is very tedious to read. Besides, you can go back and check out some of Franklin or Teddy Roosevelt's speeches and realize they figured it out even further back. :thumb:
"Malefactors of great wealth" was first used by (a) TR, (b) FDR, (c) Barry Obama, or (d) Tim Geithner? 8-)

Re: The Corporation

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:16 am
by kalm
W\o looking it up I'll go with ted

Re: The Corporation

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:05 pm
by Ivytalk
kalm wrote:W\o looking it up I'll go with ted
That is correct! :nod:

Re: The Corporation

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:17 pm
by kalm
Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:W\o looking it up I'll go with ted
That is correct! :nod:
And FDR referred to them as economic royalists. There's actually a fairly recent book about him entitled "Trader to his Class."

Re: The Corporation

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:48 pm
by Ivytalk
kalm wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
That is correct! :nod:
And FDR referred to them as economic royalists. There's actually a fairly recent book about him entitled "Trader to his Class."
Don't you mean "Traitor"? :? Jeez, maybe he was a commodities trader as well as a Harvard patrician.