"He (Reid) was wowed by Obama's oratorical gifts and believed that the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as Obama — a light-skinned' African American with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one,' as he later put it privately," according to the book.
Now its come out and Reid is in damage control mode...
Obama issued a statement saying he had spoken with Reid, who faces a difficult re-election amid frustration from both liberals and conservatives with his leadership in the Senate and his agenda. For Reid, not faring well in polls, the comments can't help, even as Obama relies heavily on him to try to pass a health care overhaul.
Reid's office said he had also phoned to apologize to civil rights leaders, including the Rev. Al Sharpton; NAACP Chairman Julian Bond and Leadership Conference on Civil Rights president and chief executive officer Wade Henderson, as well as veteran political operative Donna Brazile. Reid also spoke with Reps. Barbara Lee, D-Calif., and Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., both African-Americans.
The leaders quickly fell in line supporting Reid.
Honestly....EVERY American ought to be embarrassed by this guy.
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:50 pm
by Chizzang
AZ
Please explain to me - like I was a child - exactly what the problem is with what Reid said...
and then explain the problems you have with it
I'm curious
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:55 am
by Ivytalk
dback: The problem is that it's a "Tumbleweeds" version of Joe Biden's description of Obama as "a black man who's bright and clean and articulate..." Patronizing and wrong.
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:59 am
by dbackjon
Ivytalk wrote:dback: The problem is that it's a "Tumbleweeds" version of Joe Biden's description of Obama as "a black man who's bright and clean and articulate..." Patronizing and wrong.
wrong liberal. Have some more
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:18 am
by CID1990
The President's response was curiously different from the one he gave over Trent Lott's comment.
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:41 am
by kalm
Chizzang wrote:AZ
Please explain to me - like I was a child - exactly what the problem is with what Reid said...
and then explain the problems you have with it
I'm curious
Conk pc.
Mormon bigotry...whoulda thunk?
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:16 am
by Gil Dobie
Reid spoke like he was buddies with Jimmy the Greek or Rush Limbaugh.
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:26 am
by Ivytalk
dbackjon wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:dback: The problem is that it's a "Tumbleweeds" version of Joe Biden's description of Obama as "a black man who's bright and clean and articulate..." Patronizing and wrong.
wrong liberal. Have some more
You've lost me. It's the exact same message, albeit phrased more clumsily.
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:27 am
by kalm
Ivytalk wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
wrong liberal. Have some more
You've lost me. It's the exact same message, albeit phrased more clumsily.
Patronizing, politically incorrect, unneccessary. But unless you think someone who looks and speaks like this has an equal chance...
It's also true.
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:33 am
by kalm
Aside from this, I think Harry Reid is a spineless, corporatist, tool. I hope he loses.
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:21 am
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:AZ
Please explain to me - like I was a child - exactly what the problem is with what Reid said...
and then explain the problems you have with it
I'm curious
My "problem" isn't so much a problem as it is astonishment that these supposed geniuses are stupid enough to make comments like that and think they're NOT going to get out.....and then watching the lib establishment explain it away and quickly fall in line behind the douchebag because he's one of THEM.
Yet another example of the shallowness and doublestandard that is American politics.
Maybe you could explain to me why you DON'T have a problem with it?
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:51 am
by Chizzang
AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:AZ
Please explain to me - like I was a child - exactly what the problem is with what Reid said...
and then explain the problems you have with it
I'm curious
My "problem" isn't so much a problem as it is astonishment that these supposed geniuses are stupid enough to make comments like that and think they're NOT going to get out.....and then watching the lib establishment explain it away and quickly fall in line behind the douchebag because he's one of THEM.
Yet another example of the shallowness and doublestandard that is American politics.
Maybe you could explain to me why you DON'T have a problem with it?
I do have a problem with it... It's disingenuous - it's sloppy human categorization - it's the worst kind of condescension
I enjoy honest simple frankness about "the way things are" as much as anybody... and there's a way to "stage" a conversation about simple frankness and NON-PC discussions... but this was sloppy
The Conservative press should grill him for it
The Liberal Press will ignore it
I was just curious why you were so worked up about it... as you seem to enjoy "Simple Frankness" and NON-PC dialogue
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:54 am
by AZGrizFan
Chizzang wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
My "problem" isn't so much a problem as it is astonishment that these supposed geniuses are stupid enough to make comments like that and think they're NOT going to get out.....and then watching the lib establishment explain it away and quickly fall in line behind the douchebag because he's one of THEM.
Yet another example of the shallowness and doublestandard that is American politics.
Maybe you could explain to me why you DON'T have a problem with it?
I do have a problem with it... It's disingenuous - it's sloppy human categorization - it's the worst kind of condescension
I enjoy honest simple frankness about "the way things are" as much as anybody... and there's a way to "stage" a conversation about simple frankness and NON-PC discussions... but this was sloppy
The Conservative press should grill him for it
The Liberal Press will ignore it
I was just curious why you were so worked up about it... as you seem to enjoy "Simple Frankness" and NON-PC dialogue
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:07 am
by Chizzang
kalm wrote:
Patronizing, politically incorrect, unneccessary. But unless you think someone who looks and speaks like this has an equal chance...
It's also true.
It depends on what "cards" the individual is playing
The gentlemen pictured above has made a great living being and acting just like he does... I assure you it's mostly and "act" but it's an act that pays well in certain venues - politics is not one of them
Each corner of society every nook and cranny has a different set of rules by which people have to perform or play out a particular character in order to be successful
One of the great frustrations among black Americans "was" limited access to the established American power structure - Malcolm X discusses this topic at great length
I suggest every American listen to "The ballot or the bullet"
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Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:36 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
was it stupid? you bet - the only thing dumber is conks trying to be "offended" after spending 20 years bemoaning "political correctness run amok"
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:42 pm
by Pwns
My interpretation of this: "those stupid white small-town $%^*s that are clinging to guns and religion will be more likely to vote for a black president if he talks like them and looks more like them than most blacks do"
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:16 pm
by CID1990
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:was it stupid? you bet - the only thing dumber is conks trying to be "offended" after spending 20 years bemoaning "political correctness run amok"
Don't be a knucklehead. OF COURSE the right is going to harp in it. It's just like catching Billy Graham in bed with his secretary. It is the pinnacle of hypocrisy. Second place goes to the Democrats who crucified Trent Lott (including Kerry and The One himself) and are now trying to close the book on it.
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:17 pm
by SeattleGriz
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:was it stupid? you bet - the only thing dumber is conks trying to be "offended" after spending 20 years bemoaning "political correctness run amok"
We all know this is payback for Trent Lott and the way politics are played in America. The Dems need to show some spine and give Reid the boot from his position. If not, then it will just be one more example of the Dems do as I say, not as I do efforts.
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:19 pm
by kalm
SeattleGriz wrote:
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:was it stupid? you bet - the only thing dumber is conks trying to be "offended" after spending 20 years bemoaning "political correctness run amok"
We all know this is payback for Trent Lott and the way politics are played in America. The Dems need to show some spine and give Reid the boot from his position. If not, then it will just be one more example of the Dems do as I say, not as I do efforts.
That would be refreshing, but I'm not holding my breath.
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:40 pm
by Chizzang
kalm wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:
We all know this is payback for Trent Lott and the way politics are played in America. The Dems need to show some spine and give Reid the boot from his position. If not, then it will just be one more example of the Dems do as I say, not as I do efforts.
That would be refreshing, but I'm not holding my breath.
Political Correctness is only a bad thing when it's your guy making an ass of himself...
Bottom line is: It's a game played by both parties - and mostly - FAKE OUTRAGE is the choreographed response designed to show Americans what they are supposed to be horribly offended by
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:27 pm
by death dealer
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:was it stupid? you bet - the only thing dumber is conks trying to be "offended" after spending 20 years bemoaning "political correctness run amok"
Ah, took you long enough to respond. You on the clock or doing this one pro bono.
I don't have a dog in the fight btw. the two parties, and wouldn't comment, because we all know Reid is right. However, I am amused by the response of the dems to this whole thing. I did not say suprised, merely amused. And a little saddened. Personally? I think they could make a lot of hay by throwing Reid under the bus on this one, and taking a "no double standards around here" approach to the situation. I think his replacement would win in a landslide. But it's been a long time since I got that Poli Sci degree, so I'm a little rusty.
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:08 pm
by kalm
Chizzang wrote:
kalm wrote:
That would be refreshing, but I'm not holding my breath.
Political Correctness is only a bad thing when it's your guy making an ass of himself...
Bottom line is: It's a game played by both parties - and mostly - FAKE OUTRAGE is the choreographed response designed to show Americans what they are supposed to be horribly offended by
Bill Maher blamed it on the feminization of America.
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:18 pm
by Wedgebuster
Reid is a cricket cruncher, they don't think much of blacks.
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:56 pm
by Ivytalk
kalm wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Political Correctness is only a bad thing when it's your guy making an ass of himself...
Bottom line is: It's a game played by both parties - and mostly - FAKE OUTRAGE is the choreographed response designed to show Americans what they are supposed to be horribly offended by
Bill Maher blamed it on the feminization of America.
Maher is a douche. Orthodox liberal who only laughs at his own jokes. I prefer the Capitol Steps. They laugh at everyone.
Re: Harry Reid: Dumb AND Dumber
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:40 pm
by kalm
Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
Bill Maher blamed it on the feminization of America.
Maher is a douche. Orthodox liberal who only laughs at his own jokes. I prefer the Capitol Steps. They laugh at everyone.
You don't like bill maher? Get out of town.
Spoken like someone who's never got past his monologue (which I admit is full of mostly lame jokes and too much of bill laughing at himself. But for the most part bill is an equal opportunity offender and he has some really great guests.
Are you denying the feminization of America? Or do you welcome "but what about the children"?
