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Hypocrisy easily seen over race comments
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:36 pm
by clenz
WASHINGTON — Is a double standard going on in the Senate?
To some Republicans, there's a clear double standard in the reactions to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's racially insensitive remarks and to those of Trent Lott, who was forced out as Senate majority leader in 2002 after saying that the country might have been better off if then-segregationist candidate Strom Thurmond had won the presidency in 1948.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politic ... 21539.html
Re: Hypocrisy easily seen over race comments
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:06 pm
by kalm
Yes. I think both issues we're clearly over blown.
That being said, Lott's remarks were noticeably more insensitive and most people would disagree. On the other hand, no matter how poorly worded, would many disagree with what Reid said?
Re: Hypocrisy easily seen over race comments
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:17 pm
by catamount man
How were Lott's comments so insensitive? How many "human race loving libs" still lock their doors at night and hole themselves up in their gated compounds away from "those people". Let's go into the prisons and start counting. Bottom line, Trent Lott's comments shed the light onto rich, white americans everywhere but only the libs were the ones to say "oh no, not me" when they've been in the same boat all along.
Bottom line, blacks and whites will never truly live with each other in peace and we need to quit acting like we ever will. Somebody wanna explain the lack of blacks in northwest states as compared to northern and southern states? It can't be all of us "racist southern folk" now could it?
Re: Hypocrisy easily seen over race comments
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:07 pm
by CID1990
I've got to break ranks with a lot of people on this, but quite frankly I see a difference in the Trent Lott affair and the Reid comments. I don't have my head in the sand over what Lott was talking about. That being said, I didn't think he should have lost his leadership position over it, and I don't think Reid should lose his.
Yes, there is a double standard, and the Democrats are being hypocrites. So what else is new? OF COURSE they are going to trot out Al Sharpton to protect the guy. Sharpton is the biggest "HOUSE/PORCH YOU KNOW WHAT" in this country. He peddles government dependency for an extra slice of the pie for himself. He is nothing more than Toby on the porch, taking largesse from the Massa (the Democratic Party) and in return he keeps the field hands on the plantation with the occasional extra clothes and dancin' on Sattidays.
All that being said, this is a golden opportunity to point out the discrepancy, and then move on and shut up about it. The Republican Party can choose to harp over this crap, making them no better than the Democrats, or they can register their disapproval and then move on to more important things. It is a waste of time to go after Harry Reid, because he is protected by a COngressional majority, and no amount of yelling and screaming is going to change it. Quite frankly, I don't think what he said was that bad, anyway. He was simply saying what every goddamn person in this country was thinking anyway. It is stupid to be so afraid of telling the truth.
Re: Hypocrisy easily seen over race comments
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:16 pm
by death dealer
CID1990 wrote:I've got to break ranks with a lot of people on this, but quite frankly I see a difference in the Trent Lott affair and the Reid comments. I don't have my head in the sand over what Lott was talking about. That being said, I didn't think he should have lost his leadership position over it, and I don't think Reid should lose his.
Yes, there is a double standard, and the Democrats are being hypocrites. So what else is new? OF COURSE they are going to trot out Al Sharpton to protect the guy. Sharpton is the biggest "HOUSE/PORCH YOU KNOW WHAT" in this country. He peddles government dependency for an extra slice of the pie for himself. He is nothing more than Toby on the porch, taking largesse from the Massa (the Democratic Party) and in return he keeps the field hands on the plantation with the occasional extra clothes and dancin' on Sattidays.
All that being said, this is a golden opportunity to point out the discrepancy, and then move on and shut up about it. The Republican Party can choose to harp over this crap, making them no better than the Democrats, or they can register their disapproval and then move on to more important things. It is a waste of time to go after Harry Reid, because he is protected by a COngressional majority, and no amount of yelling and screaming is going to change it. Quite frankly, I don't think what he said was that bad, anyway. He was simply saying what every goddamn person in this country was thinking anyway. It is stupid to be so afraid of telling the truth.
I guess it isn't as obvious as it seems to me. It's not about what he said. He was just pointing out the obvious. It's the reaction of the Democrats. There can be no denial that if a leader of the Republican party made the same comments, with the same good intentions, there would be a march of some sort, Reid and Pelosi would be calling for their head, and Obama would be less than so gracious. Hypocrisy. Again, it was supposed to be different this time, right? Well, so far it's a huge failure, and I don't see it getting any better. It's all bullshit.
And I will point out that I am not a member of the Republican party. If truth be known, I am probably farther to the true left than anyone on this board.
Re: Hypocrisy easily seen over race comments
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:35 pm
by Pwns
What I didn't like is Obama's comment that Reid "is on the right side of the issues" - like that somehow makes the situation better if you start with the premise that Reid's comments were anti-black (which they weren't). What Obama is basically saying is that because he is a democrat, he automatically gets a pass. It's nothing new. During the 2003 recall election in California Gray Davis made a comment that you should not be able to be the governer of California unless you could pronounce the name of the state properly. You can't tell me if a republican said that he or she would not be tarred and feathered by the PC police.
This situation demonstrates both that PC is out-of-control (Reid's comment is really anti-
white) and that there's a double standard that donks will always get the benefit of the doubt in these type of situations whereas republicans will be asked to resign. It sucks.

Re: Hypocrisy easily seen over race comments
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:47 am
by AZGrizFan
Re: Hypocrisy easily seen over race comments
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:32 am
by Appaholic
death dealer wrote:CID1990 wrote:I've got to break ranks with a lot of people on this, but quite frankly I see a difference in the Trent Lott affair and the Reid comments. I don't have my head in the sand over what Lott was talking about. That being said, I didn't think he should have lost his leadership position over it, and I don't think Reid should lose his.
Yes, there is a double standard, and the Democrats are being hypocrites. So what else is new? OF COURSE they are going to trot out Al Sharpton to protect the guy. Sharpton is the biggest "HOUSE/PORCH YOU KNOW WHAT" in this country. He peddles government dependency for an extra slice of the pie for himself. He is nothing more than Toby on the porch, taking largesse from the Massa (the Democratic Party) and in return he keeps the field hands on the plantation with the occasional extra clothes and dancin' on Sattidays.
All that being said, this is a golden opportunity to point out the discrepancy, and then move on and shut up about it. The Republican Party can choose to harp over this crap, making them no better than the Democrats, or they can register their disapproval and then move on to more important things. It is a waste of time to go after Harry Reid, because he is protected by a COngressional majority, and no amount of yelling and screaming is going to change it. Quite frankly, I don't think what he said was that bad, anyway. He was simply saying what every goddamn person in this country was thinking anyway. It is stupid to be so afraid of telling the truth.
I guess it isn't as obvious as it seems to me. It's not about what he said. He was just pointing out the obvious. It's the reaction of the Democrats. There can be no denial that if a leader of the Republican party made the same comments, with the same good intentions, there would be a march of some sort, Reid and Pelosi would be calling for their head, and Obama would be less than so gracious. Hypocrisy. Again, it was supposed to be different this time, right? Well, so far it's a huge failure, and I don't see it getting any better. It's all bullshit.
And I will point out that I am not a member of the Republican party. If truth be known, I am probably farther to the true left than anyone on this board.
Nailed it....
Re: Hypocrisy easily seen over race comments
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:15 am
by AZGrizFan
Appaholic wrote:death dealer wrote:
I guess it isn't as obvious as it seems to me. It's not about what he said. He was just pointing out the obvious. It's the reaction of the Democrats. There can be no denial that if a leader of the Republican party made the same comments, with the same good intentions, there would be a march of some sort, Reid and Pelosi would be calling for their head, and Obama would be less than so gracious. Hypocrisy. Again, it was supposed to be different this time, right? Well, so far it's a huge failure, and I don't see it getting any better. It's all bullshit.
And I will point out that I am not a member of the Republican party. If truth be known, I am probably farther to the true left than anyone on this board.
Nailed it....
As death dealer usually does...
