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What frightens you more?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:47 pm
by kalm
Big government or big banks?

And why?

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:49 pm
by ASUG8
Big banks can only control some portion of my life, while Big Government can legislate me into a mindless, penniless drone. I'm a fan of neither, but I'll take big banks over Big Government.

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:49 pm
by Col Hogan
kalm wrote:Big government or big banks?

And why?
Big Government...because to become big, they want in every aspect of my life...

As an individual, I can work around the big banks...I understasnd companies might not be able to, but I can...

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:30 pm
by HI54UNI
Col Hogan wrote:
kalm wrote:Big government or big banks?

And why?
Big Government...because to become big, they want in every aspect of my life...

As an individual, I can work around the big banks...I understasnd companies might not be able to, but I can...

+1

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:47 pm
by Ivytalk
Is that a trick question? :coffee:

Big guvmint, because it can steal your freedom and your money in the guise of "helping others."

Kumbaya, m'lawd, kumbaya... :roll:

Duh.

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:52 pm
by Ursus A. Horribilis
Ain't even a question for me either. I agree with all others for the same reasons.

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:35 pm
by Baldy
This is a no brainer...government is the one with the guns.

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:14 pm
by CID1990
Banks don't tax me. (At least not the ones I don't do business with)

Banks don't tell me I have to wear a helmet or a seatbelt.

Banks don't tell me where I can drive my truck.

Banks don't tell me I can't paint my house hot pink if I want to.

Banks don't charge me ridiculous fees if I want to build a sex palace on the back of my hot pink house.

Banks don't take away forever 45% of my income.

Banks don't tell me I can't smoke dope.

Banks don't tell me where I can and can't go.

Banks don't tell me I owe them 100 bucks if I refuse to answer the stupid race questions on the census card.

Banks don't require me to have a permit for every fvcking thing I have to do that is necessary for living, like driving.

I'll take the big evil banks.

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:31 pm
by catamount man
big government, no matter what political persuasion. big banks don't play the eminent domain card either.

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:46 pm
by CID1990
catamount man wrote:big government, no matter what political persuasion. big banks don't play the eminent domain card either.
Yep. Even reading that word makes me angry as hell.

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:27 pm
by houndawg
Bankers may be parasitic scum-suckers who would crawl over their dying mother to f*** their dead sister, but at least their greed makes them fairly predictable.

Big government is more like an epileptic with a machine gun.

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:27 am
by blueballs
Big Banks who are in the pocket of big government (See Barwey Fwank and the new RESPA and Reg X laws)...

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:58 am
by dbackjon
CID1990 wrote:
catamount man wrote:big government, no matter what political persuasion. big banks don't play the eminent domain card either.
Yep. Even reading that word makes me angry as hell.
The Constitution frightens you?

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:58 am
by dbackjon
Big Business, that controls Big Government frightens me.

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:10 pm
by BlackFalkin
Ivytalk wrote: Big guvmint, because it can steal your freedom and your money in the guise of "helping others."
Duh.
Yeah Bruh, da guvamint has their hands in ALL FOUR of your pockets, and we bend over & take it from birth.
Spoiler: show
this statement, in no way, implies that I engage in homosexually activities.

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:13 pm
by BlackFalkin
houndawg wrote:Bankers may be parasitic scum-suckers who would crawl over their dying mother to f*** their dead sister, but at least their greed makes them fairly predictable.
Big government is more like an epileptic with a machine gun.
:clap:

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:46 pm
by CID1990
dbackjon wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Yep. Even reading that word makes me angry as hell.
The Constitution frightens you?
Of course not, you hyperbolic idiot.

Eminent domain as indicated in the Constitution was never intended to allow the government to take your property in order to put up a fvcking WalMart. Count eminent domain as one of the many portions of the Constitution that have been twisted and abused by our government.

In fact, you actually make the argument for me. You can add another point to my list:

Big banks don't abuse and/or ignore the U.S. Constitution.

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:20 pm
by catamount man
CID1990 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
The Constitution frightens you?
Of course not, you hyperbolic idiot.

Eminent domain as indicated in the Constitution was never intended to allow the government to take your property in order to put up a fvcking WalMart. Count eminent domain as one of the many portions of the Constitution that have been twisted and abused by our government.

In fact, you actually make the argument for me. You can add another point to my list:

Big banks don't abuse and/or ignore the U.S. Constitution.
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:01 am
by houndawg
CID1990 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
The Constitution frightens you?
Of course not, you hyperbolic idiot.

Eminent domain as indicated in the Constitution was never intended to allow the government to take your property in order to put up a fvcking WalMart. Count eminent domain as one of the many portions of the Constitution that have been twisted and abused by our government.

In fact, you actually make the argument for me. You can add another point to my list:

Big banks don't abuse and/or ignore the U.S. Constitution.
Yeah, they pay lobbyists to do that part.

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:37 am
by CID1990
houndawg wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Of course not, you hyperbolic idiot.

Eminent domain as indicated in the Constitution was never intended to allow the government to take your property in order to put up a fvcking WalMart. Count eminent domain as one of the many portions of the Constitution that have been twisted and abused by our government.

In fact, you actually make the argument for me. You can add another point to my list:

Big banks don't abuse and/or ignore the U.S. Constitution.
Yeah, they pay lobbyists to do that part.
It's the lobbyists that abuse the Constitution? Is that it?

Who makes the laws? How exactly do these lobbyists force Congress to do what they would not otherwise do?

I guess you were just trying to be snarky as opposed to accurate.

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:11 am
by houndawg
CID1990 wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Yeah, they pay lobbyists to do that part.
It's the lobbyists that abuse the Constitution? Is that it?

Who makes the laws? How exactly do these lobbyists force Congress to do what they would not otherwise do?

I guess you were just trying to be snarky as opposed to accurate.


You seem a mite peevish today CIDman, are we PMSing?

Speaking of hyperbolic :roll: ...... you might try to remember that this is a small-division football board and we aren't all insiders rubbing shoulders with the ruling class on a daily basis. Actually I was thinking of the Mining Act of 1872 which lets foreign mining companies, unlike gas or oil companies, extract minerals on public land and pay no royalties to anybody. Would you say that Congress allows that to continue because what they would do anyway is ignore royalties from a billion dollar industry?

Re: What frightens you more?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:12 pm
by CID1990
houndawg wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
It's the lobbyists that abuse the Constitution? Is that it?

Who makes the laws? How exactly do these lobbyists force Congress to do what they would not otherwise do?

I guess you were just trying to be snarky as opposed to accurate.


You seem a mite peevish today CIDman, are we PMSing?

Speaking of hyperbolic :roll: ...... you might try to remember that this is a small-division football board and we aren't all insiders rubbing shoulders with the ruling class on a daily basis. Actually I was thinking of the Mining Act of 1872 which lets foreign mining companies, unlike gas or oil companies, extract minerals on public land and pay no royalties to anybody. Would you say that Congress allows that to continue because what they would do anyway is ignore royalties from a billion dollar industry?
Not sure who you think I am, but I don't rub shoulders with anyone. I just read.

The Mining Act of 1872 doesn't really have anything to do with eminent domain. It allows for mineral rights on non-specific use Federal public land. The act itself makes no provision for the taking of private land or involuntary transfer of mineral rights. I am sure that mining companies have lobbyists who occasionally remind their favorite senators and representatives how lucrative this is to them, and those members of Congress keep the status quo. Not really sure how that relates to our government's habit of playing fast and loose with the Constitution, though.