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Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:41 am
by Appaholic
White House: 'We have to take into account what voters said yesterday'

BOSTON - Republicans are rejoicing and Democrats reeling in the wake of Scott Brown's stunning triumph in a special Massachusetts Senate election, a devastating Democratic defeat that triggered soul-searching within President Barack Obama's party over how to stem further losses in November's midterm elections.

White House officials acknowledged that one of the lessons from Massachusetts was the intensity of voter anger, but they said it wasn't so much with Obama as with Washington's failures in general and with the moribund economy.

Brown maintained in an interview Wednesday morning that claiming the election was a referendum on Obama would be oversimplifying what had happened there. Nor, he said, was it merely a matter of voters rejecting Coakley.

Asked on NBC's "Today" show if the election was a referendum on Obama, he replied, "No, it's bigger than that.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34952671/ns ... _politics/

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:40 pm
by houndawg
Hopefully we can now make kicking mid-east oil Job 1, it would free up a good 100,000,000,000 dollars.

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:15 pm
by mainejeff
You won! You won!

Now what?

:coffee:

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:16 pm
by CID1990
mainejeff wrote:You won! You won!

Now what?

:coffee:
Ironic Post of the Year.

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:16 pm
by clenz
mainejeff wrote:You won! You won!

Now what?

:coffee:
We are going to do as much as Obama when it comes to big issues...not a damn thing


Oh...except filibuster the shit out of you.

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:18 pm
by soul man
mainejeff wrote:You won! You won!

Now what?

:coffee:
I am headed to Disney!

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:24 pm
by YoUDeeMan
clenz wrote:
mainejeff wrote:You won! You won!

Now what?

:coffee:
We are going to do as much as Obama when it comes to big issues...not a damn thing


Oh...except filibuster the **** out of you.
C'mon, clenz, the Dems are changing. Just look at what Obama did today.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34952671/ns ... ?GT1=43001
As if in a nod to voter disgust with Washington, Obama signed a directive Wednesday aimed at stopping government contracts from going to tax-delinquent companies. "We need to insist on the same sense of responsibility in Washington that so many of you strive to uphold in your own lives, in your own families and in your own businesses," Obama said.


So, we can expect to see no more Obama appointees that are behind in their taxes.

And that clown Rangel is going to resign under direct pressure from Obama because Obama just said, "We need to insist on the same sense of responsibility in Washington that so many of you strive to uphold in your own lives, in your own families and in your own businesses".

Change is finally coming.

:rofl:

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:24 pm
by AZGrizFan
Appaholic wrote:White House: 'We have to take into account what voters said yesterday'

BOSTON - Republicans are rejoicing and Democrats reeling in the wake of Scott Brown's stunning triumph in a special Massachusetts Senate election, a devastating Democratic defeat that triggered soul-searching within President Barack Obama's party over how to stem further losses in November's midterm elections.
If they want to stem further losses in November they'll shelve this abortion of a bill on health care that 75% of Americans don't want anyway. If they don't see THAT message from this Republican victory, they'll get exactly what they so richly deserve in November. :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:29 pm
by Grizalltheway
AZGrizFan wrote:
Appaholic wrote:White House: 'We have to take into account what voters said yesterday'

BOSTON - Republicans are rejoicing and Democrats reeling in the wake of Scott Brown's stunning triumph in a special Massachusetts Senate election, a devastating Democratic defeat that triggered soul-searching within President Barack Obama's party over how to stem further losses in November's midterm elections.
If they want to stem further losses in November they'll shelve this abortion of a bill on health care that 75% of Americans don't want anyway. If they don't see THAT message from this Republican victory, they'll get exactly what they so richly deserve in November. :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:

Source? :roll:

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:32 pm
by mainejeff
clenz wrote:
mainejeff wrote:You won! You won!

Now what?

:coffee:
We are going to do as much as Obama when it comes to big issues...not a damn thing


Oh...except filibuster the **** out of you.
Good for YOU!

:coffee:

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:33 pm
by mainejeff
soul man wrote:
mainejeff wrote:You won! You won!

Now what?

:coffee:
I am headed to Disney!
Isn't that where all of Washington resides these days?

:coffee:

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:34 pm
by mainejeff
Cluck U wrote:
clenz wrote: We are going to do as much as Obama when it comes to big issues...not a damn thing


Oh...except filibuster the **** out of you.
C'mon, clenz, the Dems are changing. Just look at what Obama did today.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34952671/ns ... ?GT1=43001
As if in a nod to voter disgust with Washington, Obama signed a directive Wednesday aimed at stopping government contracts from going to tax-delinquent companies. "We need to insist on the same sense of responsibility in Washington that so many of you strive to uphold in your own lives, in your own families and in your own businesses," Obama said.


So, we can expect to see no more Obama appointees that are behind in their taxes.

And that clown Rangel is going to resign under direct pressure from Obama because Obama just said, "We need to insist on the same sense of responsibility in Washington that so many of you strive to uphold in your own lives, in your own families and in your own businesses".

Change is finally coming.

:rofl:
Thank God that Republicans will save us! We can go back to the good 'ole days of 2000-2006!

:coffee:

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:34 pm
by mainejeff
CID1990 wrote:
mainejeff wrote:You won! You won!

Now what?

:coffee:
Ironic Post of the Year.
Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

:coffee:

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:35 pm
by mainejeff
AZGrizFan wrote:
Appaholic wrote:White House: 'We have to take into account what voters said yesterday'

BOSTON - Republicans are rejoicing and Democrats reeling in the wake of Scott Brown's stunning triumph in a special Massachusetts Senate election, a devastating Democratic defeat that triggered soul-searching within President Barack Obama's party over how to stem further losses in November's midterm elections.
If they want to stem further losses in November they'll shelve this abortion of a bill on health care that 75% of Americans don't want anyway. If they don't see THAT message from this Republican victory, they'll get exactly what they so richly deserve in November. :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
Again........then what?

:coffee:

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:35 pm
by mainejeff
Grizalltheway wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
If they want to stem further losses in November they'll shelve this abortion of a bill on health care that 75% of Americans don't want anyway. If they don't see THAT message from this Republican victory, they'll get exactly what they so richly deserve in November. :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:

Source? :roll:
Fox News.

:coffee:

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:41 pm
by ASUMountaineer
mainejeff wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
C'mon, clenz, the Dems are changing. Just look at what Obama did today.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34952671/ns ... ?GT1=43001
As if in a nod to voter disgust with Washington, Obama signed a directive Wednesday aimed at stopping government contracts from going to tax-delinquent companies. "We need to insist on the same sense of responsibility in Washington that so many of you strive to uphold in your own lives, in your own families and in your own businesses," Obama said.


So, we can expect to see no more Obama appointees that are behind in their taxes.

And that clown Rangel is going to resign under direct pressure from Obama because Obama just said, "We need to insist on the same sense of responsibility in Washington that so many of you strive to uphold in your own lives, in your own families and in your own businesses".

Change is finally coming.

:rofl:
Thank God that Republicans will save us! We can go back to the good 'ole days of 2000-2006!

:coffee:
Exactly MJ. That's why switching from Republican to Democrat and expecting "change" is a farce. There's no difference, and both have equally sucked. Yet, they are good at one thing...keeping dissent at arm's length. Dems and Reps agree that the best way for them to maintain power is to gang up on the smaller parties. They can live with losing power for a decade, as long as it's the enemy they know. It's a sad shame. :nod: :ohno:

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:46 pm
by AZGrizFan
Grizalltheway wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
If they want to stem further losses in November they'll shelve this abortion of a bill on health care that 75% of Americans don't want anyway. If they don't see THAT message from this Republican victory, they'll get exactly what they so richly deserve in November. :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:

Source? :roll:
I made it up. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: So, if it's 65%? 60%? 56%? Does the number really matter? WAY more Americans strongly oppose health care reform than strongly support it. THAT should be the message the dipshits take away from this ass beating.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that just 38% of voters nationwide favor the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That matches the lowest level of support yet. Fifty-six percent (56%) of voters oppose the plan.
Just 18% of voters Strongly Favor the plan while 44% are Strongly Opposed.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... are_reform

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:47 pm
by AZGrizFan
mainejeff wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
If they want to stem further losses in November they'll shelve this abortion of a bill on health care that 75% of Americans don't want anyway. If they don't see THAT message from this Republican victory, they'll get exactly what they so richly deserve in November. :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
Again........then what?

:coffee:
Why don't they try solving REAL problems instead of made-up ones? You know, like infrastructure, energy independence, etc., etc. Oh, and how about not spending us into oblivion? That'd be a start....

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:49 pm
by Grizalltheway
AZGrizFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:

Source? :roll:
I made it up. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: So, if it's 65%? 60%? 56%? Does the number really matter? WAY more Americans strongly oppose health care reform than strongly support it. THAT should be the message the dipshits take away from this ass beating.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that just 38% of voters nationwide favor the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That matches the lowest level of support yet. Fifty-six percent (56%) of voters oppose the plan.
Just 18% of voters Strongly Favor the plan while 44% are Strongly Opposed.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... are_reform
Hey, that's all I asked for, I don't think it's reasonable to say that the election of one senator means that the vast majority of Americans don't favor some sort of healthcare reform. It also doesn't mean that Obama is guaranteed to lose in 2012. :coffee:

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:01 pm
by AZGrizFan
Grizalltheway wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
I made it up. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: So, if it's 65%? 60%? 56%? Does the number really matter? WAY more Americans strongly oppose health care reform than strongly support it. THAT should be the message the dipshits take away from this ass beating.



http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... are_reform
Hey, that's all I asked for, I don't think it's reasonable to say that the election of one senator means that the vast majority of Americans don't favor some sort of healthcare reform. It also doesn't mean that Obama is guaranteed to lose in 2012. :coffee:
Well, a vast majority sure don't favor THIS sort of healthcare reform. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

And I realize a lot could happen in the next 36 months, but right now, the happiest person on EARTH is Jimmy Carter. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:12 pm
by mainejeff
AZGrizFan wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
Again........then what?

:coffee:
Why don't they try solving REAL problems instead of made-up ones? You know, like infrastructure, energy independence, etc., etc. Oh, and how about not spending us into oblivion? That'd be a start....
Well, you can forget about that..........get used to G.A.G. (God.Abortion.Gays.) AGAIN.......it's predictable as a Sarah Palin wink.

:coffee:

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:13 pm
by AZGrizFan
mainejeff wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Why don't they try solving REAL problems instead of made-up ones? You know, like infrastructure, energy independence, etc., etc. Oh, and how about not spending us into oblivion? That'd be a start....
Well, you can forget about that..........get used to G.A.G. (God.Abortion.Gays.) AGAIN.......it's predictable as a Sarah Palin wink.

:coffee:
Sorry, but I ain't buyin' it. There are as many disenfranchised Reps as there are Dems. :nod: :nod: :nod:

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:13 pm
by mainejeff
AZGrizFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Hey, that's all I asked for, I don't think it's reasonable to say that the election of one senator means that the vast majority of Americans don't favor some sort of healthcare reform. It also doesn't mean that Obama is guaranteed to lose in 2012. :coffee:
Well, a vast majority sure don't favor THIS sort of healthcare reform. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

And I realize a lot could happen in the next 36 months, but right now, the happiest person on EARTH is Jimmy Carter. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Nah......Rush, Hannity, Beck, Palin, Coulter, etc.

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:24 pm
by AZGrizFan
mainejeff wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Well, a vast majority sure don't favor THIS sort of healthcare reform. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

And I realize a lot could happen in the next 36 months, but right now, the happiest person on EARTH is Jimmy Carter. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Nah......Rush, Hannity, Beck, Palin, Coulter, etc.
Hey, Jimmy is now a solid #2 in the "Worst President in History" poll, behind the current placeholder. :nod:

Re: Dems Reeling, Soul-Searching After Mass. Loss

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:33 pm
by GannonFan
AZGrizFan wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
Nah......Rush, Hannity, Beck, Palin, Coulter, etc.
Hey, Jimmy is now a solid #2 in the "Worst President in History" poll, behind the current placeholder. :nod:
Actually, the voters and the Republicans did Obama and the Dems a favor - they gave them a stinging defeat and a chance to back away from the disaster that was going to be the Health Care bill and did all of that 10 months before the mid term election. Having a super majority gave the Dems way too much latitude and they ended up going way too far. Now they have a second chance to rectify things and see if they can actually make good on Obama's original promise of post-partisanism. I worry, though, that we're going to see more populist rallying crying (i.e. fat cat references) and trying to find a bogeyman for Dems to point to - the amount of Bush references in the past week is disturbing. Bunkering down isn't going to fix anything.