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Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:02 am
by Rob Iola
Beau Biden's not running for his dad's Senate seat - looking like another Republican pick-up, as Mike Castle's very popular in DE:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix ... id=topnews
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:10 am
by Fact
Wow, I wonder if they'll try to convince Minner to run against him since she's only a couple years older than Castle. Big win for Repubs nonetheless.
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:21 am
by 93henfan
Fact wrote:Wow, I wonder if they'll try to convince Minner to run against him since she's only a couple years older than Castle. Big win for Repubs nonetheless.
Minner.
This is now Castle's seat, but Republicans shouldn't really do a jig to celebrate this one because Castle votes with the Dems a fair amount of the time.
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:22 am
by dgreco
I think even if Beau ran that Castle would win the race pretty easily anyway. The republicans will most likely lose the rep. seat though.
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:27 am
by Ivytalk
Yeah, Beau has to focus on the AG job that he effectively ignored for almost two years while serving in the safe zone in Iraq.

The DE Department of Justice is in a shambles, from what I've heard locally, and morale is low. The doofus will almost certainly be re-elected, however -- multiple bar exam failures and all.

Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:32 am
by 93henfan
Ivytalk wrote:Yeah, Beau has to focus on the AG job that he effectively ignored for almost two years while serving in the safe zone in Iraq.

The DE Department of Justice is in a shambles, from what I've heard locally, and morale is low. The doofus will almost certainly be re-elected, however -- multiple bar exam failures and all.

How many slam dunk murder cases have they botched the past two years? It's maddening.
It doesn't help Beau that the current Dem governor has presided over both auto plants in the state (GM and Chrysler) closing up shop, the Valero refinery closing up shop, across the board pay cuts for state employees, and a big fail on the controversial sports betting issue. The guy just reeks of ineptitude.
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:38 am
by Rob Iola
93henfan wrote:Ivytalk wrote:...
It doesn't help Beau that the current Dem governor has presided over both auto plants in the state (GM and Chrysler) closing up shop, the Valero refinery closing up shop, across the board pay cuts for state employees, and a big fail on the controversial sports betting issue. The guy just reeks of ineptitude.
This is what happens when you don't run the St. Mark's grad (Carney).
Obama turned to a St. Mark's grad (Plouffe) and see what happened...
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:40 am
by Ivytalk
Rob Iola wrote:93henfan wrote:
This is what happens when you don't run the St. Mark's grad (Carney).
Obama turned to a St. Mark's grad (Plouffe) and see what happened...
Carney, the former Dartmouth DB, is a lock for Congress.

Not just Delaware... Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:20 am
by native
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:33 am
by Fact
Ivytalk wrote:Yeah, Beau has to focus on the AG job that he effectively ignored for almost two years while serving in the safe zone in Iraq.

The DE Department of Justice is in a shambles, from what I've heard locally, and morale is low. The doofus will almost certainly be re-elected, however
-- multiple bar exam failures and all.

Tons of very qualified lawyers fail the bar exam multiple times.
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:38 am
by native
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:41 am
by Fact
Ok, a sizable number. A state's attorney general needs to be more pragmatic than anything, how they perform on the bar exam has very little to do with their competency in the position.
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:43 am
by native
Fact wrote:Ok, a sizable number. A state's attorney general needs to be more pragmatic than anything, how they perform on the bar exam has very little to do with their competency in the position.
...and it's certainly pragmatic to fail the bar exam...
What is your case for Biden's competence as AG? He has lost high profile cases and gets poor reviews.
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:44 am
by Fact
It's not like he's personally prosecuting people.. And just because a case is high profile does not mean that it's airtight.
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:46 am
by native
Fact wrote:It's not like he's personally prosecuting people.. And just because a case is high profile does not mean that it's airtight.
Is that the best you can do? What has Biden actually accomplished?
So far you are merely damning him with faint praise.

Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:54 am
by GannonFan
Beau Biden is Delaware's answer to PA's Bob Casey. Both are beneficiaries of last names that their far superior fathers helped to forge and now they are just riding the names for all they're worth in spite of their lack of any other real credentials. PA elected Casey to the Senate, so at least DE hasn't followed in those footsteps.
Good for Castle - extremely good man (and very loyal Blue Hen follower) and he's much more of a moderate and independent Republican - he's the type of guy you want in government - he's not going to be beholden to either party.
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:45 am
by HI54UNI
GannonFan wrote:Beau Biden is Delaware's answer to PA's Bob Casey. Both are beneficiaries of last names that their far superior fathers helped to forge and now they are just riding the names for all they're worth in spite of their lack of any other real credentials. PA elected Casey to the Senate, so at least DE hasn't followed in those footsteps.
Good for Castle - extremely good man (and very loyal Blue Hen follower) and he's much more of a moderate and independent Republican - he's the type of guy you want in government - he's not going to be beholden to either party.
My god, if Joe Biden is far superior to Beau, words cannot describe how bad Beau must be!
I wonder if Rahm called Beau and threatened to beat him Chicago style. How embarrassing would it be for Barry and Co. if the VP's kid couldn't win.

Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:56 am
by native
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:14 am
by Fact
native wrote:Fact wrote:It's not like he's personally prosecuting people.. And just because a case is high profile does not mean that it's airtight.
Is that the best you can do? What has Biden actually accomplished?
So far you are merely damning him with faint praise.

For the record, I despise the Bidens and everything about them, but to really judge this guy's competency you have to do more than a topical examination.
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:17 am
by native
Fact wrote:native wrote:
Is that the best you can do? What has Biden actually accomplished?
So far you are merely damning him with faint praise.

For the record, I despise the Bidens and everything about them, but to really judge this guy's competency you have to do more than a topical examination.
OK. Throw us a bone!
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:37 am
by Ivytalk
Fact wrote:It's not like he's personally prosecuting people.. And just because a case is high profile does not mean that it's airtight.
93henfan is right. Biden's AG office has messed up some high-profile murder cases. He's now hitched his re-election wagon to a big downstate child abuse case involving a Lewes pediatrician. AG candidates often use their trial experience -- particularly prosecutions and convictions -- as a campaign prop. Biden did when he ran the first time. And bear in mind that the AG is the state's chief lawyer. His only client is the state. DE has a tough bar exam, but multiple failures are not a professional credential.
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:21 pm
by GannonFan
Fact wrote:native wrote:
Is that the best you can do? What has Biden actually accomplished?
So far you are merely damning him with faint praise.

For the record, I despise the Bidens and everything about them, but to really judge this guy's competency you have to do more than a topical examination.
You argued this in another thread - what about Biden's performance as AG in Delaware has filled you with the idea that this guy is highly competent. On the contrary, his tenure so far has been incredibly disappointing. I'd love to hear the rebuttal to that.
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:56 pm
by native
Re: Biden Not Running
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:41 pm
by ASUMountaineer
Fact wrote:Ok, a sizable number. A state's attorney general needs to be more pragmatic than anything, how they perform on the bar exam has very little to do with their competency in the position.
You're right, more a representation of the type of education he received. Then again, Bush was Ivy League...hmmm...
