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Following the President's State of the Union address, 56% of survey respondents support the President's proposed spending "freeze," but only 9% think it will make much of a difference.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... on_deficit

Following the President's State of the Union speech, only 29% of respondents in a CNBC survey feel more secure in their jobs. A whopping 71% feel less hopeful than before the speech.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/35107515

Well, lets see: He exempted spending on national security, social security, medicare, medicaid and welfare from the "freeze".

That leaves about 9% of the budget to "freeze". So, the 9% may be about right!

The other 44% dont pay federal income tax

Franks Tanks wrote:The other 44% dont pay federal income tax

No shit.

I noticed that about 85% of the entire Congress giggled at him when he said it. The rest just sat in stunned silence at the "whopper he just told."

How do you just turn off the faucet and freeze spending after tossing $800 billion into the economy?

ASUG8 wrote:How do you just turn off the faucet and freeze spending after tossing $800 billion into the economy?

About as well as they have turned off the close to one trillion spent in Iraq and Afghanistan.

native wrote:Following the President's State of the Union address, 56% of survey respondents support the President's proposed spending "freeze," but only 9% think it will make much of a difference.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... on_deficit

I wonder how many of the respondents understand exactly what the "freeze" entails, instead of the implication that it is across the board...

I would think you would have to hit the biggest programs to see the most gains. It's going to hurt but it is necessary. Not all of Medicare, Medicaid, Defense, etc... should be exempt from it.

Politifact deconstructs this joke of a spending freeze.


http://www.politifact.org/truth-o-meter ... reeze-wil/

It's about like trying to keep the Titanic afloat with a bail.

blueballs wrote:

native wrote:Following the President's State of the Union address, 56% of survey respondents support the President's proposed spending "freeze," but only 9% think it will make much of a difference.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... on_deficit

I wonder how many of the respondents understand exactly what the "freeze" entails, instead of the implication that it is across the board...

BB, I think your answer can be found in the disparity between the percentage who applaud the effort and the percentage who actually think it will make much of a difference.

I applaud the symbolic effort, even though it is a token smokescreen, but I still think the prez is a lying, incompetent scumbag.

f: http://blogs.usatoday.com/.a/6a00d83451 ... 553970b-pi

First off, I don’t even know what Mr. Obama means by freeze. What baseline is it from? Past year’s budgets or this year’s bloated budget?

Maybe someone will explain where I’m wrong here, but it seem pretty obvious to me that the government will be broke in a few years. Mr. Obama and his minions know that and yet they perpetrate this duplicitous deception that they are cutting spending when we all know that cuts of 1% or so of this year’s deficit will do nothing.

Can anyone tell me why they are doing this? What is their objective? Do Mr. Obama’s supporters have any explanation for this at all?

oldsloguy wrote:
f: http://blogs.usatoday.com/.a/6a00d83451 ... 553970b-pi

First off, I don’t even know what Mr. Obama means by freeze. What baseline is it from? Past year’s budgets or this year’s bloated budget?

Maybe someone will explain where I’m wrong here, but it seem pretty obvious to me that the government will be broke in a few years. Mr. Obama and his minions know that and yet they perpetrate this duplicitous deception that they are cutting spending when we all know that cuts of 1% or so of this year’s deficit will do nothing.

Can anyone tell me why they are doing this? What is their objective? Do Mr. Obama’s supporters have any explanation for this at all?

Does this answer the questoin?

native wrote:

blueballs wrote:
I wonder how many of the respondents understand exactly what the "freeze" entails, instead of the implication that it is across the board...

BB, I think your answer can be found in the disparity between the percentage who applaud the effort and the percentage who actually think it will make much of a difference.

I applaud the symbolic effort, even though it is a token smokescreen, but I still think the prez is a lying, incompetent scumbag.

I guess the best part about all of this is that he chastised Sen McCain during the 2008 campaign for the same thing he's now proposing.

From the AP: "Obama is a convert to the cause of broad spending freezes. In the presidential campaign, he criticized Republican opponent John McCain for suggesting one. "The problem with a spending freeze is you're using a hatchet where you need a scalpel," he said a month before the election. Now, Obama wants domestic spending held steady in most areas where the government can control year-to-year costs. The proposal is similar to McCain's."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100128/ap_ ... fact_check

Ibanez wrote:...

Does this answer the questoin?

Home run!

blueballs wrote:

native wrote:
BB, I think your answer can be found in the disparity between the percentage who applaud the effort and the percentage who actually think it will make much of a difference.

I applaud the symbolic effort, even though it is a token smokescreen, but I still think the prez is a lying, incompetent scumbag.

I guess the best part about all of this is that he chastised Sen McCain during the 2008 campaign for the same thing he's now proposing.

From the AP: "Obama is a convert to the cause of broad spending freezes. In the presidential campaign, he criticized Republican opponent John McCain for suggesting one. "The problem with a spending freeze is you're using a hatchet where you need a scalpel," he said a month before the election. Now, Obama wants domestic spending held steady in most areas where the government can control year-to-year costs. The proposal is similar to McCain's."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100128/ap_ ... fact_check

This whole scenario kind of reminds me of a child growing up into an adult. The longer Obama is president, the smarter George Bush and John McCain appear.

AZGrizFan wrote:

blueballs wrote:
I guess the best part about all of this is that he chastised Sen McCain during the 2008 campaign for the same thing he's now proposing.

From the AP: "Obama is a convert to the cause of broad spending freezes. In the presidential campaign, he criticized Republican opponent John McCain for suggesting one. "The problem with a spending freeze is you're using a hatchet where you need a scalpel," he said a month before the election. Now, Obama wants domestic spending held steady in most areas where the government can control year-to-year costs. The proposal is similar to McCain's."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100128/ap_ ... fact_check

This whole scenario kind of reminds me of a child growing up into an adult. The longer Obama is president, the smarter George Bush and John McCain appear.

And that scares the piss out of me! I'm pretty partisan and didn't expect much from Obama, but I NEVER saw this coming!

AZGrizFan wrote:

blueballs wrote:
I guess the best part about all of this is that he chastised Sen McCain during the 2008 campaign for the same thing he's now proposing.

From the AP: "Obama is a convert to the cause of broad spending freezes. In the presidential campaign, he criticized Republican opponent John McCain for suggesting one. "The problem with a spending freeze is you're using a hatchet where you need a scalpel," he said a month before the election. Now, Obama wants domestic spending held steady in most areas where the government can control year-to-year costs. The proposal is similar to McCain's."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100128/ap_ ... fact_check

This whole scenario kind of reminds me of a child growing up into an adult. The longer Obama is president, the smarter George Bush and John McCain appear.

Rarely is the question asked, is our leaders learning?

Ibanez wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
This whole scenario kind of reminds me of a child growing up into an adult. The longer Obama is president, the smarter George Bush and John McCain appear.

Rarely is the question asked, is our leaders learning?

I'll see your dumb quote and raise you a YouTube video of the Messiah:
[youtube][/youtube]

AZGrizFan wrote:

Ibanez wrote:

I'll see your dumb quote and raise you a YouTube video of the Messiah:
[youtube][/youtube]

Well, is they?!???

It's like "freeze"-drying a pimple on a blue whale's ass.