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There is no excuse for the stuff that comes out of his mouth.

UNHWildCats wrote:There is no excuse for the stuff that comes out of his mouth.

Why don't you tell everyone about the latest pearl to come from him...

You just mad it isnt your.................


BTW if Hussein Obama had any class or cared about this country in any way he would step down because he isnt qualified to do this job.

Col Hogan wrote:

UNHWildCats wrote:There is no excuse for the stuff that comes out of his mouth.

Why don't you tell everyone about the latest pearl to come from him...

he referred to some liberal groups who oppose the health care bill as "fucking retarded"

Just speaking the truth.

Rahm is a corportist shill that has no business in Washington

UNHWildCats wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:
Why don't you tell everyone about the latest pearl to come from him...

he referred to some liberal groups who oppose the health care bill as "fucking retarded"

Emanuel is an embarassment to all the retarded folks in the world.

AZGrizFan wrote:

UNHWildCats wrote: he referred to some liberal groups who oppose the health care bill as "**** retarded"

Emanuel is an embarassment to all the retarded folks in the world.

Good one

UNHWildCats wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:
Why don't you tell everyone about the latest pearl to come from him...

he referred to some liberal groups who oppose the health care bill as "**** retarded"

That's sad...what a shame. Good for you though, well done.

UNHWildCats wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:
Why don't you tell everyone about the latest pearl to come from him...

he referred to some liberal groups who oppose the health care bill as "**** retarded"

What's odd is that utterance even got out to the mainstream media. Wasn't that in a closed door meeting with some liberal groups? And it just gave the right and the Sarah Palins of the world a chance to score some political points.

Kinda makes you think, correctly, that the biggest problem Emmanuel has is with the more left-leaning groups that don't feel like they're getting enough out of the Obama Presidency. Considering how the Dems lost Massachusetts, caving into that pressure may not be the wisest course of action.

GannonFan wrote:

UNHWildCats wrote: he referred to some liberal groups who oppose the health care bill as "**** retarded"

What's odd is that utterance even got out to the mainstream media. Wasn't that in a closed door meeting with some liberal groups? And it just gave the right and the Sarah Palins of the world a chance to score some political points.

Kinda makes you think, correctly, that the biggest problem Emmanuel has is with the more left-leaning groups that don't feel like they're getting enough out of the Obama Presidency. Considering how the Dems lost Massachusetts, caving into that pressure may not be the wisest course of action.

And Emmanuel is probably the person most responsible for the majority that the Democrat's have in Congress. He was instrumental in establishing strategy, identifying targets and selecting moderate candidates with the best chance of beating Republicans. He may be course but he is a shrewd politician.

It would appear that the far left would like to get as much of their agenda as they can now and not give a damn about the longterm consequences.

UNI88 wrote: It would appear that the far left would like to get as much of their agenda as they can now and not give a damn about the longterm consequences.

Longterm? Heck, November is only 10 months away now, and considering that it's almost impossible for unemployment to come back under 10% between now and then, longterm is getting closer and closer.

GannonFan wrote:

UNI88 wrote: It would appear that the far left would like to get as much of their agenda as they can now and not give a damn about the longterm consequences.

Longterm? Heck, November is only 10 months away now, and considering that it's almost impossible for unemployment to come back under 10% between now and then, longterm is getting closer and closer.

Maybe they're getting desperate?

Seriously, after the November elections, Obama will still be POTUS and they will still likely have a majority in both houses. They just won't has as much of a majority and will really have to work with the Republicans to move legislation. If they're willing and able to work with moderate Republicans on compromises the ultra-conservatives are going to end up looking like obstructionists and it will hurt their chances in 2012. Legislation with true bipartisan input is usually better legislation. This isn't the end of the new world order that many of the talking heads want people to think it is.

GannonFan wrote: Longterm? Heck, November is only 10 months away now, and considering that it's almost impossible for unemployment to come back under 10% between now and then, longterm is getting closer and closer.

November 2010 isn't longterm.

It's a given that Democrats will lose seats in November. It's very unlikely anything is going to change that.

Reagan's approval ratings were tanking and Republicans lost a shitload of seats in 1982 (close to 30)... economy started to recover... Reagan reelected overwhelmingly.



Longterm isn't November 2010.

Jellybelly wants Rahm's job. He's better at

That might be the first words out of Emmanuels mouth that I actually respect. He might be liberal but at least he's not some politically correct pussy. Why does everyone get so bent out of shape about the word retard?

AZGrizFan wrote:

UNHWildCats wrote: he referred to some liberal groups who oppose the health care bill as "**** retarded"

Emanuel is an embarassment to all the retarded folks in the world.

Obama had better hang on to him. Rahm's the only guy in that cabinet with any really significant political experience. Once Rahm goes they will truly be without a clue.

Barack: I'm not so sure it was a good idea referring to some liberal groups as fucking retarded.

Rahm: Fuck 'em Barry. It's a two party system, who else are the socialist hippies going to vote for, Ralph Nader?

Barack: Well maybe, but it was only last spring that a majority of the American people supported single payer or a public option, and those type of programs seem to keep the rest of the world's health care costs below ours.

Rahm: How many times do I have to remind you I'm not one of your googly eyed, sappy sycophants. Spare me the commie pontificating, Franklin. The majority of Americans didn't get you and Max Baucus elected. To steal from Randy Moss, elections are about the "straight cash homey"?

Barack: That sounds funny coming from a jew, are you trying to raise your street cred with me or something?

Rahm: No, I'm triangulating. Governance is not about making the best decisions for the American people, it's about making the best decisions that will get you re-elected. Do you think Clinton won re-election with Monica on the side because he was really good at multi-tasking?

Barack: But what about the mid-terms, we're already losing some seats?

Rahm: Relax. It's expected during the first mid-term. Besides it will further cull the Democratic herd of the weak, soft, do-gooder leftists.

Barack: But isn't that our base?

Rahm: Did you not learn anything from Citzens United? Goldman Sachs and United Health Care are now your base.

kalm wrote:Barack: I'm not so sure it was a good idea referring to some liberal groups as **** retarded.

Rahm: **** 'em Barry. It's a two party system, who else are the socialist hippies going to vote for, Ralph Nader?

Barack: Well maybe, but it was only last spring that a majority of the American people supported single payer or a public option, and those type of programs seem to keep the rest of the world's health care costs below ours.

Rahm: How many times do I have to remind you I'm not one of your googly eyed, sappy sycophants. Spare me the commie pontificating, Franklin. The majority of Americans didn't get you and Max Baucus elected. To steal from Randy Moss, elections are about the "straight cash homey"?

Barack: That sounds funny coming from a jew, are you trying to raise your street cred with me or something?

Rahm: No, I'm triangulating. Governance is not about making the best decisions for the American people, it's about making the best decisions that will get you re-elected. Do you think Clinton won re-election with Monica on the side because he was really good at multi-tasking?

Barack: But what about the mid-terms, we're already losing some seats?

Rahm: Relax. It's expected during the first mid-term. Besides it will further cull the Democratic herd of the weak, soft, do-gooder leftists.

Barack: But isn't that our base?

Rahm: Did you not learn anything from Citzens United? Goldman Sachs and United Health Care are now your base.

Hey...not bad for a closet control freak!

UNI88 wrote:

GannonFan wrote:
Longterm? Heck, November is only 10 months away now, and considering that it's almost impossible for unemployment to come back under 10% between now and then, longterm is getting closer and closer.

Maybe they're getting desperate?

Seriously, after the November elections, Obama will still be POTUS and they will still likely have a majority in both houses. They just won't has as much of a majority and will really have to work with the Republicans to move legislation. If they're willing and able to work with moderate Republicans on compromises the ultra-conservatives are going to end up looking like obstructionists and it will hurt their chances in 2012. Legislation with true bipartisan input is usually better legislation. This isn't the end of the new world order that many of the talking heads want people to think it is.

Republicans have a decent chance to take the house. Charlie Cook has it at 50-50, and he's one of the top political handicappers in the country. That's why much of Washington, Republican and Democrat, pays $295 for a yearly subscription to his political report.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazi ... report.php

UNHWildCats wrote:

Col Hogan wrote:
Why don't you tell everyone about the latest pearl to come from him...

he referred to some liberal groups who oppose the health care bill as "**** retarded"

Coincedentally, I've used the exact same terminology to refer to those who support the health care bill.

kalm wrote:Barack: I'm not so sure it was a good idea referring to some liberal groups as **** retarded.

Rahm: **** 'em Barry. It's a two party system, who else are the socialist hippies going to vote for, Ralph Nader?

Barack: Well maybe, but it was only last spring that a majority of the American people supported single payer or a public option, and those type of programs seem to keep the rest of the world's health care costs below ours.

Rahm: How many times do I have to remind you I'm not one of your googly eyed, sappy sycophants. Spare me the commie pontificating, Franklin. The majority of Americans didn't get you and Max Baucus elected. To steal from Randy Moss, elections are about the "straight cash homey"?

Barack: That sounds funny coming from a jew, are you trying to raise your street cred with me or something?

Rahm: No, I'm triangulating. Governance is not about making the best decisions for the American people, it's about making the best decisions that will get you re-elected. Do you think Clinton won re-election with Monica on the side because he was really good at multi-tasking?

Barack: But what about the mid-terms, we're already losing some seats?

Rahm: Relax. It's expected during the first mid-term. Besides it will further cull the Democratic herd of the weak, soft, do-gooder leftists.

Barack: But isn't that our base?

Rahm: Did you not learn anything from Citzens United? Goldman Sachs and United Health Care are now your base.

Impressive.

kalm wrote:Barack: I'm not so sure it was a good idea referring to some liberal groups as **** retarded.

Rahm: **** 'em Barry. It's a two party system, who else are the socialist hippies going to vote for, Ralph Nader?

Barack: Well maybe, but it was only last spring that a majority of the American people supported single payer or a public option, and those type of programs seem to keep the rest of the world's health care costs below ours.

Rahm: How many times do I have to remind you I'm not one of your googly eyed, sappy sycophants. Spare me the commie pontificating, Franklin. The majority of Americans didn't get you and Max Baucus elected. To steal from Randy Moss, elections are about the "straight cash homey"?

Barack: That sounds funny coming from a jew, are you trying to raise your street cred with me or something?

Rahm: No, I'm triangulating. Governance is not about making the best decisions for the American people, it's about making the best decisions that will get you re-elected. Do you think Clinton won re-election with Monica on the side because he was really good at multi-tasking?

Barack: But what about the mid-terms, we're already losing some seats?

Rahm: Relax. It's expected during the first mid-term. Besides it will further cull the Democratic herd of the weak, soft, do-gooder leftists.

Barack: But isn't that our base?

Rahm: Did you not learn anything from Citzens United? Goldman Sachs and United Health Care are now your base.

I have to give credit where credit is due!

Cluck U wrote:

kalm wrote:Barack: I'm not so sure it was a good idea referring to some liberal groups as **** retarded.

Rahm: **** 'em Barry. It's a two party system, who else are the socialist hippies going to vote for, Ralph Nader?

Barack: Well maybe, but it was only last spring that a majority of the American people supported single payer or a public option, and those type of programs seem to keep the rest of the world's health care costs below ours.

Rahm: How many times do I have to remind you I'm not one of your googly eyed, sappy sycophants. Spare me the commie pontificating, Franklin. The majority of Americans didn't get you and Max Baucus elected. To steal from Randy Moss, elections are about the "straight cash homey"?

Barack: That sounds funny coming from a jew, are you trying to raise your street cred with me or something?

Rahm: No, I'm triangulating. Governance is not about making the best decisions for the American people, it's about making the best decisions that will get you re-elected. Do you think Clinton won re-election with Monica on the side because he was really good at multi-tasking?

Barack: But what about the mid-terms, we're already losing some seats?

Rahm: Relax. It's expected during the first mid-term. Besides it will further cull the Democratic herd of the weak, soft, do-gooder leftists.

Barack: But isn't that our base?

Rahm: Did you not learn anything from Citzens United? Goldman Sachs and United Health Care are now your base.

Hey...not bad for a closet control freak!

Hell yeah. A control freaking false prophet am I, hell bent on economic justice and social anarchy.

(I honestly have no clue what I just meant there)

Rahm has always been 'rough around the edges' in his dealings and Obama knew that bringing him in. Of course, this supposedly occured in a 'closed door' meeting, so obviously that means nothing these days to anyone. I think all of us have used some coarse language or inappropriate comments in settings we thought were 'private'. However, I also agree, that in holding the position he does, Emanuel has to take responsibility for his conduct as a public official. Firing? No, but a public rebuke and apology is called for.