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Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:50 pm
by Ibanez
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And therefore will not be seeking reelection.
Rep. Eric Massa (D-N.Y.) will not seek re-election after only one term in office.
According to several House aides – on both sides of the aisle – the House ethics committee has been informed of allegations that Massa, who is married with two children, sexually harassed a male staffer.
Massa told POLITICO early Wednesday afternoon that no one has brought allegations of misconduct to him.
I'm s ure some uber liberal poster will go off on Republicans and how this guy was a closet Republica, yadda yadda yadda
Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:00 pm
by UNHWildCats
He's not running for re-election because he is dying of cancer. While the sexual harassment accusation may someday be proven to be true, it is as of now just an accusation. Furthermore, sexual harassment isn't as simple as to suggest Rep. Massa was making sexual moves on a male employee. Sexual Harassment can include:
# discussing sexual activities;
# telling off-color jokes;
# unnecessary touching; (95% of baseball players have been sexually harassed by coaches

)
# commenting on physical attributes;
# displaying sexually suggestive pictures;
# using demeaning or inappropriate terms, such as "Babe";
# using indecent gestures;
# using crude and offensive language
For what its worth, in his statement today, Massa said "I made my statement. The allegations are totally false. I'm a salty old sailor. That's that."
Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:04 pm
by Ibanez
UNHWildCats wrote:He's not running for re-election because he is dying of cancer. While the sexual harassment accusation may someday be proven to be true, it is as of now just an accusation. Furthermore, sexual harassment isn't as simple as to suggest Rep. Massa was making sexual moves on a male employee. Sexual Harassment can include:
# discussing sexual activities;
# telling off-color jokes;
# unnecessary touching; (95% of baseball players have been sexually harassed by coaches

)
# commenting on physical attributes;
# displaying sexually suggestive pictures;
# using demeaning or inappropriate terms, such as "Babe";
# using indecent gestures;
# using crude and offensive language
For what its worth, in his statement today, Massa said "I made my statement. The allegations are totally false. I'm a salty old sailor. That's that."
Having been sexually harrassed and having my wife sexually harrassed last year, I don't think I need an education on what qualifies.

Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:24 pm
by clenz
Travis, you and I both know that if this were a republican in this situation you wouldn't buy his denial andwould be more thanwilling to bash the living fuck out of him. You also wouldn't have posted that information either
Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:24 pm
by UNHWildCats
Ibanez wrote:UNHWildCats wrote:He's not running for re-election because he is dying of cancer. While the sexual harassment accusation may someday be proven to be true, it is as of now just an accusation. Furthermore, sexual harassment isn't as simple as to suggest Rep. Massa was making sexual moves on a male employee. Sexual Harassment can include:
# discussing sexual activities;
# telling off-color jokes;
# unnecessary touching; (95% of baseball players have been sexually harassed by coaches

)
# commenting on physical attributes;
# displaying sexually suggestive pictures;
# using demeaning or inappropriate terms, such as "Babe";
# using indecent gestures;
# using crude and offensive language
For what its worth, in his statement today, Massa said "I made my statement. The allegations are totally false. I'm a salty old sailor. That's that."
Having been sexually harrassed and having my wife sexually harrassed last year, I don't think I need an education on what qualifies.

You're the one who took the accusation of sexual harassment and declared Massa likes cock because of that.
Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:31 pm
by UNHWildCats
clenz wrote:Travis, you and I both know that if this were a republican in this situation you wouldn't buy his denial andwould be more thanwilling to bash the living fuck out of him. You also wouldn't have posted that information either
Did Massa sexually harass a male employee? Maybe... probably, but does that mean he made sexual advances towards him? No. Should Massa be reprimanded if the allegations are true? Yes. Should he resign? Probably. Do I buy his denial? The way I read into it he was admitting he says stuff he probably shouldn't and that may have led to the accusation of sexual harassment, that of course doesn't mean he went up to the staffer and said "give me a blowjob or get out" it could have been a joke that was overly sexual that caused the complaint. So I wouldn't say I am buying his denial.
As for my actions if it were a republican. I am a democrat, it isn't my responsibility to defend republicans, nor is a republicans job on here to defend a democrat.
Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:35 pm
by D1B
Ibanez wrote:UNHWildCats wrote:He's not running for re-election because he is dying of cancer. While the sexual harassment accusation may someday be proven to be true, it is as of now just an accusation. Furthermore, sexual harassment isn't as simple as to suggest Rep. Massa was making sexual moves on a male employee. Sexual Harassment can include:
# discussing sexual activities;
# telling off-color jokes;
# unnecessary touching; (95% of baseball players have been sexually harassed by coaches

)
# commenting on physical attributes;
# displaying sexually suggestive pictures;
# using demeaning or inappropriate terms, such as "Babe";
# using indecent gestures;
# using crude and offensive language
For what its worth, in his statement today, Massa said "I made my statement. The allegations are totally false. I'm a salty old sailor. That's that."
Having been sexually harrassed and having my wife sexually harrassed last year, I don't think I need an education on what qualifies.

You do though need education on everything else.

Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:37 pm
by D1B
clenz wrote:Travis, you and I both know that if this were a republican in this situation you wouldn't buy his denial andwould be more thanwilling to bash the living fuck out of him. You also wouldn't have posted that information either
Yeah, youngster, it's a double stardard here that we all enjoy. They call em double standards cuz they is twice as true.
Republicans are fucking perverts. Really any repressed group are perverts - priests, conservatives, mormons...
Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:38 pm
by danefan
I thought you were talking about this guy
The Tommy Carcetti of Congress.
Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:21 am
by Wedgebuster
Ibanez wrote:http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/33864.html
And therefore will not be seeking reelection.
Rep. Eric Massa (D-N.Y.) will not seek re-election after only one term in office.
According to several House aides – on both sides of the aisle – the House ethics committee has been informed of allegations that Massa, who is married with two children, sexually harassed
a male staffer.
Massa told POLITICO early Wednesday afternoon that no one has brought allegations of misconduct to him.
I'm s ure some uber liberal poster will go off on Republicans and how this guy was a closet Republica, yadda yadda yadda

Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:27 am
by houndawg
Ibanez wrote:http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/33864.html
And therefore will not be seeking reelection.
Rep. Eric Massa (D-N.Y.) will not seek re-election after only one term in office.
According to several House aides – on both sides of the aisle – the House ethics committee has been informed of allegations that Massa, who is married with two children, sexually harassed a male staffer.
Massa told POLITICO early Wednesday afternoon that no one has brought allegations of misconduct to him.
I'm s ure some uber liberal poster will go off on Republicans and how this guy was a closet Republica, yadda yadda yadda
Not at all, in fact it's only news because he's a Democrat.
Republican sex scandals aren't news unless there is a woman involved.

Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:01 am
by clenz
UNHWildCats wrote:clenz wrote:Travis, you and I both know that if this were a republican in this situation you wouldn't buy his denial andwould be more thanwilling to bash the living fuck out of him. You also wouldn't have posted that information either
Did Massa sexually harass a male employee? Maybe... probably, but does that mean he made sexual advances towards him? No. Should Massa be reprimanded if the allegations are true? Yes. Should he resign? Probably. Do I buy his denial? The way I read into it he was admitting he says stuff he probably shouldn't and that may have led to the accusation of sexual harassment, that of course doesn't mean he went up to the staffer and said "give me a blowjob or get out" it could have been a joke that was overly sexual that caused the complaint. So I wouldn't say I am buying his denial.
As for my actions if it were a republican. I am a democrat, it isn't my responsibility to defend republicans, nor is a republicans job on here to defend a democrat.
You don't
need to defend democrats either. Both sides are full of fucking perverted assholes that doesn't actually give a shit about anyone except their pocketbook and the pocket book of their largest financial supporters.
It's partisanship bullshit like this that is the reason the country is going down the fucking shitter faster than any thing. If someone fucks up, don't fucking defend them just because they are a fucking democrat/republican and then bash another person just because they are they other.
Partisan ignorance is just as bad as racial or sexual orientation ignorance.
This goes for both sides. I'm getting sick of both sides doing shit like this....and on this site tman, d1b, cap, kyjellyeater, hounddawg and you (unh) are the worst at it. It doesn't matter how bad your side fucks up, it is ok because they are on your side. It's all fucking bullshit, and the reason I stay out of politics...both here and in real life
Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:14 am
by houndawg
clenz wrote:UNHWildCats wrote:
Did Massa sexually harass a male employee? Maybe... probably, but does that mean he made sexual advances towards him? No. Should Massa be reprimanded if the allegations are true? Yes. Should he resign? Probably. Do I buy his denial? The way I read into it he was admitting he says stuff he probably shouldn't and that may have led to the accusation of sexual harassment, that of course doesn't mean he went up to the staffer and said "give me a blowjob or get out" it could have been a joke that was overly sexual that caused the complaint. So I wouldn't say I am buying his denial.
As for my actions if it were a republican. I am a democrat, it isn't my responsibility to defend republicans, nor is a republicans job on here to defend a democrat.
You don't
need to defend democrats either. Both sides are full of **** perverted ******* that doesn't actually give a **** about anyone except their pocketbook and the pocket book of their largest financial supporters.
It's partisanship bullshit like this that is the reason the country is going down the **** shitter faster than any thing. If someone **** up, don't **** defend them just because they are a **** democrat/republican and then bash another person just because they are they other.
Partisan ignorance is just as bad as racial or sexual orientation ignorance.
This goes for both sides. I'm getting sick of both sides doing **** like this....and on this site tman, d1b, cap, kyjellyeater, hounddawg and you (unh) are the worst at it. It doesn't matter how bad your side **** up, it is ok because they are on your side.
It's all **** bullshit, and the reason I stay out of politics...both here and in real life

Yet here you sit on a political forum........btw, get it right, what you
really mean is that the folks you mention are the
best at it.

Whoever is paying for your schoolin' ain't gettin' their money's worth.
edit: Not to mention that it
needs five of us to keep up with tman's BS.
Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:25 am
by UNHWildCats
clenz wrote:UNHWildCats wrote:
Did Massa sexually harass a male employee? Maybe... probably, but does that mean he made sexual advances towards him? No. Should Massa be reprimanded if the allegations are true? Yes. Should he resign? Probably. Do I buy his denial? The way I read into it he was admitting he says stuff he probably shouldn't and that may have led to the accusation of sexual harassment, that of course doesn't mean he went up to the staffer and said "give me a blowjob or get out" it could have been a joke that was overly sexual that caused the complaint. So I wouldn't say I am buying his denial.
As for my actions if it were a republican. I am a democrat, it isn't my responsibility to defend republicans, nor is a republicans job on here to defend a democrat.
You don't
need to defend democrats either. Both sides are full of fucking perverted assholes that doesn't actually give a shit about anyone except their pocketbook and the pocket book of their largest financial supporters.
It's partisanship bullshit like this that is the reason the country is going down the fucking shitter faster than any thing. If someone fucks up, don't fucking defend them just because they are a fucking democrat/republican and then bash another person just because they are they other.
Partisan ignorance is just as bad as racial or sexual orientation ignorance.
This goes for both sides. I'm getting sick of both sides doing shit like this....and on this site tman, d1b, cap, kyjellyeater, hounddawg and you (unh) are the worst at it. It doesn't matter how bad your side fucks up, it is ok because they are on your side. It's all fucking bullshit, and the reason I stay out of politics...both here and in real life
Once again, I wasn't defending him, I was simply pointing out that because someone has been accused of Sexual Harassment doesn't mean he was trying to get in bed with the person.
Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:28 am
by clenz
UNHWildCats wrote:clenz wrote:
You don't need to defend democrats either. Both sides are full of fucking perverted assholes that doesn't actually give a shit about anyone except their pocketbook and the pocket book of their largest financial supporters.
It's partisanship bullshit like this that is the reason the country is going down the fucking shitter faster than any thing. If someone fucks up, don't fucking defend them just because they are a fucking democrat/republican and then bash another person just because they are they other.
Partisan ignorance is just as bad as racial or sexual orientation ignorance.
This goes for both sides. I'm getting sick of both sides doing shit like this....and on this site tman, d1b, cap, kyjellyeater, hounddawg and you (unh) are the worst at it. It doesn't matter how bad your side fucks up, it is ok because they are on your side. It's all fucking bullshit, and the reason I stay out of politics...both here and in real life
Once again, I wasn't defending him, I was simply pointing out that because someone has been accused of Sexual Harassment doesn't mean he was trying to get in bed with the person.
Would you have done that if it was a republican accused of it?
Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:47 am
by blueballs
I don't see why this is news at all.
Heck, Barney Frank has managed to strengthen his hold on his congressional seat, sit in congress for 30 years or so, and even chair the House Financial Services Committee (which means he has me by the balls- pun intended) despite having paid a male prostitute for sex and subsequently hiring him as his personal assistant while the male prostitute used Frank's Washington apartment as a base for prostitution.
If a member of the GOP had done the same thing the MSM would have crucified him and that person would have been forced to resign in disgrace.
Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:53 pm
by houndawg
blueballs wrote:I don't see why this is news at all.
Heck, Barney Frank has managed to strengthen his hold on his congressional seat, sit in congress for 30 years or so, and even chair the House Financial Services Committee (which means he has me by the balls- pun intended) despite having paid a male prostitute for sex and subsequently hiring him as his personal assistant while the male prostitute used Frank's Washington apartment as a base for prostitution.
If a member of the GOP had done the same thing the MSM would have crucified him and that person would have been forced to resign in disgrace.
True, and not fair to
some of them. It just seems like the Republicans that get caught are always the ones that trumpet "family values" the loudest.
You shouldn't hold public office if you're ashamed of who you are.

Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:16 pm
by blueballs
houndawg wrote:True, and not fair to
some of them. It just seems like the Republicans that get caught are always the ones that trumpet "family values" the loudest.
You shouldn't hold public office if you're ashamed of who you are.

I could not agree with you more.

Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:40 pm
by houndawg
blueballs wrote:houndawg wrote:True, and not fair to
some of them. It just seems like the Republicans that get caught are always the ones that trumpet "family values" the loudest.
You shouldn't hold public office if you're ashamed of who you are.

I could not agree with you more.

That's why Barney Frank doesn't piss me off like the family values guys. I don't care if you put a garter belt on a goat and call her Daisy Belle if it's the honest you.
Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:34 pm
by SuperHornet
A GOP state Sen in Cali is apparently on the lam after being picked up for DWI. Rumors are swirling that this major anti-gay-rights'er has been seen in West Sac gay bars for several weeks....
Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:35 pm
by SuperHornet
Cr@p! UNH beat me to it....
Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:03 pm
by mainejeff
Why are lying, cheating, sex obsessed men attracted to public office??? Are all American males like this?

Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:49 pm
by houndawg
mainejeff wrote:Why are
lying, cheating, sex obsessed men attracted to public office??? Are all American males like this?

Wow! I do believe we have a triple redundancy here.

Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:21 am
by clenz
mainejeff wrote:Why are lying, cheating, sex obsessed men attracted to public office??? Are all American males like this?

Because they like power, which the lying and cheating give them....so does public office.
Oh, and they are probably some of the better liars too
Re: Democrat Messa Likes the Weiner...
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:45 am
by houndawg
clenz wrote:mainejeff wrote:Why are lying, cheating, sex obsessed men attracted to public office??? Are all American males like this?

Because they like power, which the lying and cheating give them....so does public office.
Oh, and
they are probably some of the better liars too
Sociopaths usually are.