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Starbucks Caught in the Middle

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:09 pm
by SuperHornet
Yahoo! is reporting that open-carry state gun owners are patronizing Starbucks and other restaurants with holstered weapons on their hips, causing a gun-control lobby uproar. Starbucks, an unwilling entrant in this fight, claims to be complying with state law in the 43 states with open-carry laws on the books. The gun-control lobby sent a petition to Starbucks HQ that is apparently being ignored. Gun-control is screaming bloody murder, yet nobody's apparently been shot yet.

I think that until the explicit law of a given place is violated, this is much ado about nothing.

Opinions?

Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:12 pm
by danefan
They aren't doing anything against the law. Why does Starbucks' name get brought into this?

Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:13 pm
by SuperHornet
Because that seems to be the place du jour for the open-carry folk to do this regardless of area. If Starbucks is anything, it's certainly ubiquitous.

Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:17 pm
by ASUG8
I don't see the problem if they are in compliance with local laws. This could as easily be McD's, KFC, etc. I'm not a coffee drinker, so it really doesn't impact me.

Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:28 pm
by Wedgebuster
If you are a legal owner, you may openly carry a loaded firearm almost anywhere in the US if it is carried openly and not hidden.

Nothing new about this, it's just generally regarded to be an act of douchbaggery to march around your town with a loaded gun all the time.

Living in what could be arguably the nations number one state with regards to number of guns owned per capita, I can tell you that the only people I see packing guns around here are cops, unless it happens to be hunting season.

I could mow my lawn with pistols strapped on my side, and shotguns and rifles bristling off my shoulders, but hey, I already look silly enough in the shorts and boots.

Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:29 pm
by dbackjon
Wedgebuster wrote: I could mow my lawn with pistols strapped on my side, and shotguns and rifles bristling off my shoulders, but hey, I already look silly enough in the thong and boots.
:shock:

Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:41 pm
by hank scorpio
Wedgebuster wrote:If you are a legal owner, you may openly carry a loaded firearm almost anywhere in the US if it is carried openly and not hidden.

Nothing new about this, it's just generally regarded to be an act of douchbaggery to march around your town with a loaded gun all the time.

Living in what could be arguably the nations number one state with regards to number of guns owned per capita, I can tell you that the only people I see packing guns around here are cops, unless it happens to be hunting season.

I could mow my lawn with pistols strapped on my side, and shotguns and rifles bristling off my shoulders, but hey, I already look silly enough in the shorts and boots.
Same thing in MT

Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:54 pm
by JayJ79
Wedgebuster wrote:I could mow my lawn with pistols strapped on my side, and shotguns and rifles bristling off my shoulders
you gotta do what you gotta do to battle them gophers.
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Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:54 pm
by JayJ79
Wedgebuster wrote:If you are a legal owner, you may openly carry a loaded firearm almost anywhere in the US if it is carried openly and not hidden.
and yet people complain that they can't carry in schools, hospitals, and the like.

Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:11 pm
by Col Hogan
I enjoy Starbucks....gotta say that up front...

But every Starbucks around here is full of granola-crunchin', sandal-wearin', liberal-votin' former/pretend hippies, yuppies and x-geners...

Not that there's anything wrong with being one or more of those...

But those kind of people tend to be anti-guns...so unless you are sporting a badge, they don't like guns with their lattes... :kisswink:

Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:45 pm
by Wedgebuster
When guns are outlawed, only outlaws shall have guns.

Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:05 pm
by YoUDeeMan
Wedgebuster wrote: Living in what could be arguably the nations number one state with regards to number of guns owned per capita, I could mow my lawn with pistols strapped on my side, and shotguns and rifles bristling off my shoulders, but hey, I already look silly enough in the shorts and boots.
Well, your screen profile does say you live in Utopia. :lol:

Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:17 pm
by Wedgebuster
Jon, got'cha on the other thread! :lol:

Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:15 am
by travelinman67
danefan wrote:They aren't doing anything against the law. Why does Starbucks' name get brought into this?
Goes back a month or so...

...gun rights advocates were holding informal meetings at Northern CA (Bay Area) restaurants and coffee houses, so Brian Malte over at the Brady Foundation for Restricting Freedom used the Rainbow Coalition's greenmail technique to go afer a few CA "fruit and nut" businesses seeking a pledge for them to ban firearms in their business. Peet's Coffee and California Kitchen caved, but when they got to Starbucks, their counsel advised them to pass.

http://www.ajc.com/business/starbucks-a ... 43282.html

Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:35 am
by houndawg
SuperHornet wrote:Yahoo! is reporting that open-carry state gun owners are patronizing Starbucks and other restaurants with holstered weapons on their hips, causing a gun-control lobby uproar. Starbucks, an unwilling entrant in this fight, claims to be complying with state law in the 43 states with open-carry laws on the books. The gun-control lobby sent a petition to Starbucks HQ that is apparently being ignored. Gun-control is screaming bloody murder, yet nobody's apparently been shot yet.

I think that until the explicit law of a given place is violated, this is much ado about nothing.

Opinions?
Sounds good. I think I'd go in with an alley-sweeper slung casually off the shoulder and one-up the pistol packers.

Re: Starbucks Caught in the Middle

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:46 am
by dbackjon
Wedgebuster wrote:Jon, got'cha on the other thread! :lol:

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