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Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:33 pm
by youngterrier
the poll is self-explanatory

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:37 pm
by native
Your bushit poll choices are clever! :thumb: I was not trying to convince anyone but you, YT, so I already lost, and I concede that I have not changed your mind. :bow:

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:39 pm
by Skjellyfetti
pictures of naked chicks.

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:40 pm
by Ursus A. Horribilis
youngterrier wrote:the poll is self-explanatory
They are probably about equal. 1/2 the audience is gonna try and listen to reason and the other 1/2 is gonna buy into the bullshit. That goes for liberals, conservatives, whoever your audience is. I'm in the 1/2 that really prefers the "reasoned approach" to any debate because the other side of the debate is an intelligence insulting tactic.

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:49 pm
by native
It is was good that you mentioned the "slippery slope" theory. Let's watch the economy over the next couple of years if Obamacare passes.

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:49 pm
by youngterrier
native wrote:Your poll choices are clever bullshit, but I was not trying to convince anyone but you, YT, so I already lost. :bow:
quit trying. I'm not going to call people names based on speculation or use the slippery slope theory as a cop out. I can explain why the other viewpoint is wrong, based on the outcomes of what they advocate, not based on the outcomes of what they advocate will lead to

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:53 pm
by native
youngterrier wrote:
native wrote:Your poll choices are clever bullshit, but I was not trying to convince anyone but you, YT, so I already lost. :bow:
quit trying. I'm not going to call people names based on speculation or use the slippery slope theory as a cop out. I can explain why the other viewpoint is wrong, based on the outcomes of what they advocate, not based on the outcomes of what they advocate will lead to
I am not trying. It's a duty to call your bluff from time to time.

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:55 pm
by youngterrier
native wrote:
youngterrier wrote: quit trying. I'm not going to call people names based on speculation or use the slippery slope theory as a cop out. I can explain why the other viewpoint is wrong, based on the outcomes of what they advocate, not based on the outcomes of what they advocate will lead to
I am not trying. It's a duty to call your bluff from time to time.
like a Klingon I never bluff
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Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:56 pm
by native
youngterrier wrote:
native wrote:
I am not trying. It's a duty to call your bluff from time to time.
like a Klingon I never bluff
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:lol:

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:05 pm
by native
youngterrier wrote:
native wrote:Your poll choices are clever bullshit, but I was not trying to convince anyone but you, YT, so I already lost. :bow:
quit trying. I'm not going to call people names based on speculation or use the slippery slope theory as a cop out. I can explain why the other viewpoint is wrong, based on the outcomes of what they advocate, not based on the outcomes of what they advocate will lead to
The direct connection between forced reditribution of wealth and socialism/communism is not speculation or theory. Forced redistribution is forced redistribution. The Constitution was intended to protect property rights. It has failed to do so.

The measurable Social Security deficit for this year is $28 Billion. Unfunded liabilities are in the trillions. That is a real, measurable outcome, YT, not speculation.

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:09 pm
by youngterrier
native wrote:
youngterrier wrote: quit trying. I'm not going to call people names based on speculation or use the slippery slope theory as a cop out. I can explain why the other viewpoint is wrong, based on the outcomes of what they advocate, not based on the outcomes of what they advocate will lead to
The direct connection between forced reditribution of wealth and socialism/communism is not speculation or theory. Forced redistribution is forced redistribution. The Constitution was intended to protect property rights. It has failed to do so.

The measurable Social Security deficit for this year is $28 Billion. Unfunded liabilities are in the trillions. That is a real, measurable outcome, YT, not speculation.
the bold is the only thing needed in a debate, and I acknowledge it, however the other part isn't 100% confirmed yet (Europe has a massive welfare state, but they are not quite socialist yet and for all we know they might not)

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:11 pm
by native
youngterrier wrote: ...quit trying. I'm not going to call people names based on speculation ...your constant defense of crazy people is sickening... :ohno:


Quit lying. You already condemned millions of tea Party activists as "crazy people" based on speculation that some of them did something ugly.

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:13 pm
by youngterrier
native wrote:[quote="youngterrier] ...quit trying. I'm not going to call people names based on speculation ...
Quit lying. You already condemned millions of tea Party activists as "crazy people" based on speculation that some of them did something ugly.
youngterrier wrote:...your constant defense of crazy people is sickening... :ohno:
[/quote]
I didn't condemn "millions of people" I condemn those who stoop to the level of slurs

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:14 pm
by native
youngterrier wrote: I didn't condemn "millions of people" I condemn those who stoop to the level of slurs
Well then, you falsely accused me, because I did not defend the use of slurs.

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:17 pm
by youngterrier
native wrote:
youngterrier wrote: I didn't condemn "millions of people" I condemn those who stoop to the level of slurs
Well then, you falsely accused me, because I did not defend the use of slurs.
and you clarified that AFTER I said that :coffee:

I did not improperly accuse you with your initial quote

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:19 pm
by native
youngterrier wrote:
native wrote:
Well then, you falsely accused me, because I did not defend the use of slurs.
and you clarified that AFTER I said that :coffee:
It only needed clarification because of the original false accusation. I DID NOT SUPPORT THE USE OF RACIAL SLURS.

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:22 pm
by youngterrier
native wrote:
youngterrier wrote: and you clarified that AFTER I said that :coffee:
It only needed clarification because of the original false accusatiuon. I DID NOT SUPPORT THE USE OF RACIAL SLURS.
no one could tell with your initial post :nod: and I don't think you do either after your following post but if you're going to say I improperly accused you I'm gonna :rule: and throw the BS Flag :flag:

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:24 pm
by native
youngterrier wrote:
native wrote:
It only needed clarification because of the original false accusatiuon. I DID NOT SUPPORT THE USE OF RACIAL SLURS.
no one could tell with your initial post :nod: and I don't think you do either after your following post but if you're going to say I improperly accused you I'm gonna :rule: and throw the BS Flag :flag:
Cute, but not accurate, YT. :roll:

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:33 pm
by youngterrier
How so? you wrote
It is not hatred to be pissed off when you pocket is being picked.
and I wrote
It is when you use the N word and the "Fag" word

your constant defense of crazy people is sickening :ohno:
to where you said
Maybe someone said those things, and maybe they didn't. I didn't say them, and I do not support such language.
your initial post inferred that what was said by those people wasn't hateful to where I called BS and then you clarified

I don't see any inaccuracies but then again I (and others) saw and heard Glenn Beck infer a Representative of this country was working for the enemy while you said "I made that up" :roll:

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:34 am
by travelinman67
youngterrier wrote:How so? you wrote
It is not hatred to be pissed off when you pocket is being picked.
and I wrote
It is when you use the N word and the "Fag" word

your constant defense of crazy people is sickening :ohno:
to where you said
Maybe someone said those things, and maybe they didn't. I didn't say them, and I do not support such language.
your initial post inferred that what was said by those people wasn't hateful to where I called BS and then you clarified

I don't see any inaccuracies but then again I (and others) saw and heard Glenn Beck infer a Representative of this country was working for the enemy while you said "I made that up" :roll:
Holy crap!

You need to either take this to one of the same-sex relationship threads...

...or get a room.


:nod:

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:23 am
by native
travelinman67 wrote:
youngterrier wrote:How so? you wrote


and I wrote



to where you said


your initial post inferred that what was said by those people wasn't hateful to where I called BS and then you clarified

I don't see any inaccuracies but then again I (and others) saw and heard Glenn Beck infer a Representative of this country was working for the enemy while you said "I made that up" :roll:
Holy crap!

You need to either take this to one of the same-sex relationship threads...

...or get a room.


:nod:
:lol: :lol: :lol: I hurt his feelings, t-man. YT is young and on a roll. Give the terrier his day. :nod:

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:50 am
by youngterrier
native wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
Holy crap!

You need to either take this to one of the same-sex relationship threads...

...or get a room.


:nod:
:lol: :lol: :lol: I hurt his feelings, t-man. YT is young and on a roll. Give the terrier his day. :nod:
No your feelings were hurt and you decided to rewrite history and i had to correct you

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:56 am
by native
youngterrier wrote:
native wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: I hurt his feelings, t-man. YT is young and on a roll. Give the terrier his day. :nod:
No your feelings were hurt and you decided to rewrite history and i had to correct you
Have your day pup. :thumb: There is lots of history yet to discuss. :nod: As you grow older you will get even better. 8-)

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:03 am
by youngterrier
native wrote:
youngterrier wrote: No your feelings were hurt and you decided to rewrite history and i had to correct you
Have your day pup. :thumb: There is lots of history yet to discuss. :nod: As you grow older you will get even better. 8-)
And you still have not acknowleged the point i put forward, but would rather ignore it and change the subject, hoping it goes away becuase you know i caught you in this one and am right. classic native

Re: Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:03 am
by youngterrier
native wrote:
youngterrier wrote: No your feelings were hurt and you decided to rewrite history and i had to correct you
Have your day pup. :thumb: There is lots of history yet to discuss. :nod: As you grow older you will get even better. 8-)
And you still have not acknowleged the point i put forward, but would rather ignore it and change the subject, hoping it goes away becuase you know i caught you in this one and am right. classic native