Which tactics win a debate and attract more supporters?
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:33 pm
the poll is self-explanatory
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They are probably about equal. 1/2 the audience is gonna try and listen to reason and the other 1/2 is gonna buy into the bullshit. That goes for liberals, conservatives, whoever your audience is. I'm in the 1/2 that really prefers the "reasoned approach" to any debate because the other side of the debate is an intelligence insulting tactic.youngterrier wrote:the poll is self-explanatory
quit trying. I'm not going to call people names based on speculation or use the slippery slope theory as a cop out. I can explain why the other viewpoint is wrong, based on the outcomes of what they advocate, not based on the outcomes of what they advocate will lead tonative wrote:Your poll choices are clever bullshit, but I was not trying to convince anyone but you, YT, so I already lost.
I am not trying. It's a duty to call your bluff from time to time.youngterrier wrote:quit trying. I'm not going to call people names based on speculation or use the slippery slope theory as a cop out. I can explain why the other viewpoint is wrong, based on the outcomes of what they advocate, not based on the outcomes of what they advocate will lead tonative wrote:Your poll choices are clever bullshit, but I was not trying to convince anyone but you, YT, so I already lost.
like a Klingon I never bluffnative wrote:I am not trying. It's a duty to call your bluff from time to time.youngterrier wrote: quit trying. I'm not going to call people names based on speculation or use the slippery slope theory as a cop out. I can explain why the other viewpoint is wrong, based on the outcomes of what they advocate, not based on the outcomes of what they advocate will lead to

youngterrier wrote:like a Klingon I never bluffnative wrote:
I am not trying. It's a duty to call your bluff from time to time.
The direct connection between forced reditribution of wealth and socialism/communism is not speculation or theory. Forced redistribution is forced redistribution. The Constitution was intended to protect property rights. It has failed to do so.youngterrier wrote:quit trying. I'm not going to call people names based on speculation or use the slippery slope theory as a cop out. I can explain why the other viewpoint is wrong, based on the outcomes of what they advocate, not based on the outcomes of what they advocate will lead tonative wrote:Your poll choices are clever bullshit, but I was not trying to convince anyone but you, YT, so I already lost.
the bold is the only thing needed in a debate, and I acknowledge it, however the other part isn't 100% confirmed yet (Europe has a massive welfare state, but they are not quite socialist yet and for all we know they might not)native wrote:The direct connection between forced reditribution of wealth and socialism/communism is not speculation or theory. Forced redistribution is forced redistribution. The Constitution was intended to protect property rights. It has failed to do so.youngterrier wrote: quit trying. I'm not going to call people names based on speculation or use the slippery slope theory as a cop out. I can explain why the other viewpoint is wrong, based on the outcomes of what they advocate, not based on the outcomes of what they advocate will lead to
The measurable Social Security deficit for this year is $28 Billion. Unfunded liabilities are in the trillions. That is a real, measurable outcome, YT, not speculation.
youngterrier wrote: ...quit trying. I'm not going to call people names based on speculation ...your constant defense of crazy people is sickening...![]()
Quit lying. You already condemned millions of tea Party activists as "crazy people" based on speculation that some of them did something ugly.native wrote:[quote="youngterrier] ...quit trying. I'm not going to call people names based on speculation ...
[/quote]youngterrier wrote:...your constant defense of crazy people is sickening...![]()
Well then, you falsely accused me, because I did not defend the use of slurs.youngterrier wrote: I didn't condemn "millions of people" I condemn those who stoop to the level of slurs
and you clarified that AFTER I said thatnative wrote:Well then, you falsely accused me, because I did not defend the use of slurs.youngterrier wrote: I didn't condemn "millions of people" I condemn those who stoop to the level of slurs
It only needed clarification because of the original false accusation. I DID NOT SUPPORT THE USE OF RACIAL SLURS.youngterrier wrote:and you clarified that AFTER I said thatnative wrote:
Well then, you falsely accused me, because I did not defend the use of slurs.
no one could tell with your initial postnative wrote:It only needed clarification because of the original false accusatiuon. I DID NOT SUPPORT THE USE OF RACIAL SLURS.youngterrier wrote: and you clarified that AFTER I said that

Cute, but not accurate, YT.youngterrier wrote:no one could tell with your initial postnative wrote:
It only needed clarification because of the original false accusatiuon. I DID NOT SUPPORT THE USE OF RACIAL SLURS.and I don't think you do either after your following post but if you're going to say I improperly accused you I'm gonna
and throw the BS Flag
and I wroteIt is not hatred to be pissed off when you pocket is being picked.
to where you saidIt is when you use the N word and the "Fag" word
your constant defense of crazy people is sickening
your initial post inferred that what was said by those people wasn't hateful to where I called BS and then you clarifiedMaybe someone said those things, and maybe they didn't. I didn't say them, and I do not support such language.
Holy crap!youngterrier wrote:How so? you wroteand I wroteIt is not hatred to be pissed off when you pocket is being picked.
to where you saidIt is when you use the N word and the "Fag" word
your constant defense of crazy people is sickeningyour initial post inferred that what was said by those people wasn't hateful to where I called BS and then you clarifiedMaybe someone said those things, and maybe they didn't. I didn't say them, and I do not support such language.
I don't see any inaccuracies but then again I (and others) saw and heard Glenn Beck infer a Representative of this country was working for the enemy while you said "I made that up"
travelinman67 wrote:Holy crap!youngterrier wrote:How so? you wrote
and I wrote
to where you said
your initial post inferred that what was said by those people wasn't hateful to where I called BS and then you clarified
I don't see any inaccuracies but then again I (and others) saw and heard Glenn Beck infer a Representative of this country was working for the enemy while you said "I made that up"
You need to either take this to one of the same-sex relationship threads...
...or get a room.
No your feelings were hurt and you decided to rewrite history and i had to correct younative wrote:travelinman67 wrote:
Holy crap!
You need to either take this to one of the same-sex relationship threads...
...or get a room.
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I hurt his feelings, t-man. YT is young and on a roll. Give the terrier his day.
Have your day pup.youngterrier wrote:No your feelings were hurt and you decided to rewrite history and i had to correct younative wrote:
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I hurt his feelings, t-man. YT is young and on a roll. Give the terrier his day.
And you still have not acknowleged the point i put forward, but would rather ignore it and change the subject, hoping it goes away becuase you know i caught you in this one and am right. classic nativenative wrote:Have your day pup.youngterrier wrote: No your feelings were hurt and you decided to rewrite history and i had to correct youThere is lots of history yet to discuss.
As you grow older you will get even better.
And you still have not acknowleged the point i put forward, but would rather ignore it and change the subject, hoping it goes away becuase you know i caught you in this one and am right. classic nativenative wrote:Have your day pup.youngterrier wrote: No your feelings were hurt and you decided to rewrite history and i had to correct youThere is lots of history yet to discuss.
As you grow older you will get even better.