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Obama's cold treatment of Britain, our close democratic ally and his special partner in the war on terror, stands in stark contrast to his warm embrace of thugs like Castro and Hugo Chavez. Here is Nile Gardiner's take:

1. Declaration of neutrality over the Falklands
2. Downgrading of the Special Relationship
3. Support for a federal Europe
4. Undermining of British influence in NATO
5. Refusal to recognize Britain’s sacrifice in Afghanistan
6. Throwing Churchill out of the Oval Office
7. Insulting words from the State Department
8. DVDs for the Prime Minister
9. Refusal to meet the Prime Minister in New York
10. Robert Gibbs’ embarrassing attack on the British press

From Nile Gardiner, U.K. Daily Telegraph

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nileg ... t-britain/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Note: Multiple edits thanks to my friendly neighborhood editors.
DBACKJON Edit - added "N" to Isults in title of thread

native wrote:Obama's cold and treatment of Britain, our close democratic ally and his special partner in the war on terror, stands in stark contrast to his warm embrace of thugs like Castro and Hugo Chaven. Here is Nile Gardiner's take:

1. Declaration of neutrality over the Falklands
2. Downgrading of the Special Relationship
3. Support for a federal Europe
4. Undermining of British influence in NATO
5. Refusal to recognize Britain’s sacrifice in Afghanistan
6. Throwing Churchill out of the Oval Office
7. Insulting words from the State Department
8. DVDs for the Prime Minister
9. Refusal to meet the Prime Minister in New York
10. Robert Gibbs’ embarrassing attack on the British press

From Nile Gardiner, U.K. Daily Telegraph

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nileg ... t-britain/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Who's Chaven...?

Chizzang wrote:

native wrote:Obama's cold and treatment of Britain, our close democratic ally and his special partner in the war on terror, stands in stark contrast to his warm embrace of thugs like Castro and Hugo Chaven. Here is Nile Gardiner's take:

1. Declaration of neutrality over the Falklands
2. Downgrading of the Special Relationship
3. Support for a federal Europe
4. Undermining of British influence in NATO
5. Refusal to recognize Britain’s sacrifice in Afghanistan
6. Throwing Churchill out of the Oval Office
7. Insulting words from the State Department
8. DVDs for the Prime Minister
9. Refusal to meet the Prime Minister in New York
10. Robert Gibbs’ embarrassing attack on the British press

From Nile Gardiner, U.K. Daily Telegraph

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nileg ... t-britain/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Who's Chaven...?

And what's an Isults?

native wrote:Obama's cold and treatment of Britain, our close democratic ally and his special partner in the war on terror, stands in stark contrast to his warm embrace of thugs like Castro and Hugo Chaven. Here is Nile Gardiner's take:

1. Declaration of neutrality over the Falklands
2. Downgrading of the Special Relationship
3. Support for a federal Europe
4. Undermining of British influence in NATO
5. Refusal to recognize Britain’s sacrifice in Afghanistan
6. Throwing Churchill out of the Oval Office
7. Insulting words from the State Department
8. DVDs for the Prime Minister
9. Refusal to meet the Prime Minister in New York
10. Robert Gibbs’ embarrassing attack on the British press

From Nile Gardiner, U.K. Daily Telegraph

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nileg ... t-britain/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What's a "cold and treatment"?

houndawg wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Who's Chaven...?

And what's an Isults?

I sluts?

BlueHen86 wrote:

native wrote:Obama's cold and treatment of Britain, our close democratic ally and his special partner in the war on terror, stands in stark contrast to his warm embrace of thugs like Castro and Hugo Chaven. Here is Nile Gardiner's take:

1. Declaration of neutrality over the Falklands
2. Downgrading of the Special Relationship
3. Support for a federal Europe
4. Undermining of British influence in NATO
5. Refusal to recognize Britain’s sacrifice in Afghanistan
6. Throwing Churchill out of the Oval Office
7. Insulting words from the State Department
8. DVDs for the Prime Minister
9. Refusal to meet the Prime Minister in New York
10. Robert Gibbs’ embarrassing attack on the British press

From Nile Gardiner, U.K. Daily Telegraph

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nileg ... t-britain/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What's a "cold and treatment"?

and

Thanks for the edits, boys!

Germany attacked Britain.

houndawg wrote: ...And what's an Isults?

"Isult and Tristone," a musical drama in three acts by Rigard Wachner to an Argentinian libretto...

Who the fuck is Nile Gardiner? Hadn't heard of him before today and now native's posting his articles right and left. Tea bagger pundit de jour?

native wrote:Obama's cold treatment of Britain, our close democratic ally and his special partner in the war on terror, stands in stark contrast to his warm embrace of thugs like Castro and Hugo Chavez. Here is Nile Gardiner's take:

1. Declaration of neutrality over the Falklands
2. Downgrading of the Special Relationship
3. Support for a federal Europe
4. Undermining of British influence in NATO
5. Refusal to recognize Britain’s sacrifice in Afghanistan
6. Throwing Churchill out of the Oval Office
7. Insulting words from the State Department
8. DVDs for the Prime Minister
9. Refusal to meet the Prime Minister in New York
10. Robert Gibbs’ embarrassing attack on the British press

From Nile Gardiner, U.K. Daily Telegraph

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nileg ... t-britain/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Note: Multiple edits thanks to my friendly neighborhood editors.
DBACKJON Edit - added "N" to Isults in title of thread

DVDs for the Prime Minister? Say it ain't so.............

Skjellyfetti wrote:Who the **** is Nile Gardiner? Hadn't heard of him before today and now native's posting his articles right and left. Tea bagger pundit de jour?

Sounds like a frenchy name. And we all know how much they hate us.

houndawg wrote:

native wrote:Obama's cold treatment of Britain, our close democratic ally and his special partner in the war on terror, stands in stark contrast to his warm embrace of thugs like Castro and Hugo Chavez. Here is Nile Gardiner's take:

1. Declaration of neutrality over the Falklands
2. Downgrading of the Special Relationship
3. Support for a federal Europe
4. Undermining of British influence in NATO
5. Refusal to recognize Britain’s sacrifice in Afghanistan
6. Throwing Churchill out of the Oval Office
7. Insulting words from the State Department
8. DVDs for the Prime Minister
9. Refusal to meet the Prime Minister in New York
10. Robert Gibbs’ embarrassing attack on the British press

From Nile Gardiner, U.K. Daily Telegraph

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nileg ... t-britain/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Note: Multiple edits thanks to my friendly neighborhood editors.
DBACKJON Edit - added "N" to Isults in title of thread

DVDs for the Prime Minister? Say it ain't so.............

The full article is more interesting and entertaining, dawg. Maybe you could get one of your hostages to read it for you.

native wrote:Obama's cold treatment of Britain, our close democratic ally and his special partner in the war on terror, stands in stark contrast to his warm embrace of thugs like Castro and Hugo Chavez. Here is Nile Gardiner's take:

please explain how Chavez is a thug..?

I've been doing quite a bit of research on Hugo Chavez lately - he might surprise you - if you do a little independent study on the man and exactly what he's done...

The US Media might not be your best source on him...

Chizzang wrote:

native wrote:Obama's cold treatment of Britain, our close democratic ally and his special partner in the war on terror, stands in stark contrast to his warm embrace of thugs like Castro and Hugo Chavez. Here is Nile Gardiner's take:

please explain how Chavez is a thug..?

I've been doing quite a bit of research on Hugo Chavez lately - he might surprise you - if you do a little independent study on the man and exactly what he's done...

The US Media might not be your best source on him...

I have ex-middle class Venezuelan college friends, cleets. Some of them are still alive and not in jail as political prisoners.

native wrote:

houndawg wrote:
DVDs for the Prime Minister? Say it ain't so.............

The full article is more interesting and entertaining, dawg. Maybe you could get one of your hostages to read it for you.

Did you actually read that masterpiece of limp-wristed sniveling, nature? What kind of commando are you, listening to whining frenchys and drinking wine instead of beer? Get a grip, son!

native wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
please explain how Chavez is a thug..?

I've been doing quite a bit of research on Hugo Chavez lately - he might surprise you - if you do a little independent study on the man and exactly what he's done...

The US Media might not be your best source on him...

I have ex-middle class Venezuelan college friends, cleets. Some of them are still alive and not in jail as political prisoners.

We have plenty of our own ex-middle class Americans, napsack, sounds like we have a lot in common with Venezuela.

houndawg wrote:

native wrote:
I have ex-middle class Venezuelan college friends, cleets. Some of them are still alive and not in jail as political prisoners.

We have plenty of our own ex-middle class Americans, napsack, sounds like we have a lot in common with Venezuela.

I'm interested:
Anybody who can show me that Chavez has not done everything he said he was going to do for Venezuela - the man is fairly amazing actually... I always believed he was a Dictator based on US Media Reports

Further examination has been nothing less than MIND BLOWING

Chizzang wrote:

houndawg wrote:
We have plenty of our own ex-middle class Americans, napsack, sounds like we have a lot in common with Venezuela.

I'm interested:
Anybody who can show me that Chavez has not done everything he said he was going to do for Venezuela - the man is fairly amazing actually... I always believed he was a Dictator based on US Media Reports

Further examination has been nothing less than MIND BLOWING

From Francisco Rodriguez, "An Empty Revolution," Foreign Affairs, Mar/Apr 2008 "...neither official statistics nor independent estimates show any evidence that Chávez has reoriented state priorities to benefit the poor. Most health and human development indicators have shown no significant improvement beyond that which is normal in the midst of an oil boom. Indeed, some have deteriorated worryingly, and official estimates indicate that income inequality has increased. The "Chávez is good for the poor" hypothesis is inconsistent with the facts...."

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/ ... revolution" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

From Michael Shifter, "In Search of Hugo Chavez," Foreign Affairs, May/Jun 2006: "..Chávez's policy ideas are mostly dubious. (Despite the record oil profits that are funding social spending, his initiatives have yielded only very modest gains.) His autocratic and megalomaniacal tendencies have undermined governance and the democratic process in Venezuela...."

http://www.ituassu.com.br/as_fa1.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Chizzang wrote:

houndawg wrote:

We have plenty of our own ex-middle class Americans, napsack, sounds like we have a lot in common with Venezuela.

I'm interested:
Anybody who can show me that Chavez has not done everything he said he was going to do for Venezuela - the man is fairly amazing actually... I always believed he was a Dictator based on US Media Reports

Further examination has been nothing less than MIND BLOWING

Chavez censors the media:

"...In January 2010, RCTV International (RCTVI) and five other cable and satellite TV channels (TV Chile, Ritmo Son, Momentum, America TV and American Network) were ordered off the air. [by Hugo Chavez] These channels were criticised for failing to broadcast the presidential speech delivered on the occasion of the 52nd anniversary of the overthrow of Perez Jimenez...."

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/expe ... ult_en.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hey Cleets, are you just lobbing me a softball so I can look good and you can capitulate?

What the hell are you doin' man?!??? The more I dig, the more I discover that this Chavez guy is even crazier than I thought.

Chizzang wrote:

houndawg wrote:

We have plenty of our own ex-middle class Americans, napsack, sounds like we have a lot in common with Venezuela.

I'm interested:
Anybody who can show me that Chavez has not done everything he said he was going to do for Venezuela - the man is fairly amazing actually... I always believed he was a Dictator based on US Media Reports

Further examination has been nothing less than MIND BLOWING

Excerpts from the 2006 Freedom House report on the lack of a free press in Chavez' Venezuela:

"...A hostile political atmosphere under the government of President Hugo Chavez has continued to affect the largely pro-opposition private media. One result has been a steady decline in press freedom over the past several years-a trend that continued in 2005-reflected in the government's enactment of legislation prohibiting the broadcast of certain material, its intimidation toward and denial of access to private media, and the continued harassment of journalists, directed primarily at those employed by private media outlets.

The legal environment for the press deteriorated in 2005 owing to two new restrictive laws that have increased the severity of punishments for desacato (disrespect) and expanded the "social responsibility" constraints for radio and television..."

http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cf ... &year=2006" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Well done..!!!

Let me be more clear:
The poor are his main concern and progress has been made - he's been critical of his own slow progress and how hard it is to root out the corruption

Agreed: Compared to the way we live - Venezuela is a train wreck
But: There are many reports of progress - compared to 100 years of no progress prior to his election

There - does that work..?

Skjellyfetti wrote:Who the **** is Nile Gardiner? Hadn't heard of him before today and now native's posting his articles right and left. Tea bagger pundit de jour?

Frazier's little brother...

Chizzang wrote:Well done..!!!

Let me be more clear:
The poor are his main concern and progress has been made - he's been critical of his own slow progress and how hard it is to root out the corruption

Agreed: Compared to the way we live - Venezuela is a train wreck
But: There are many reports of progress - compared to 100 years of no progress prior to his election

There - does that work..?

It would be more accurate to say that Chavez' rhetoric supports the poor than to say that he has actually helped the poor. This is flabbergasting considering Venezuela's massive oil revenues of the past decade. What will happen when they dry up? He has not only destroyed the economic infrastructure but failed to maintain the physical infrastructure as well. There will be no free enterprise left to rob to support the controlled entitlement economy.

native wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:Who the **** is Nile Gardiner? Hadn't heard of him before today and now native's posting his articles right and left. Tea bagger pundit de jour?

Frazier's little brother...

What kind of pencil-neck would go through life with a name like Nile Gardiner when he could easily have it changed?