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catamount man wrote:very disturbing that fringe elements in society are THREATENING THE LIVES of our own elected officials and all because our leaders want to make the lives of the less fortunate better. What has happened to America? Americans no longer fear God nor love their fellow man, we rob and pillage from our own and call it business and yet we tell the rest of the world how to live? Sad. This nation has jumped the shark and I don't ever see America becoming the world power again that she once was. Sad.

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:GO FU*K YOURSELF!

They deserve it and have EARNED everything coming their way.

I wish them the worst.

JohnStOnge wrote:On a more serious note: For PETE"S sake. This kind of stuff happens all the time. That guy who was trying to hold up the extension of unemployment benefits a while back was getting death threats. Congress just passed a total boondoggle under circumstances in which, incredibly, the majority of the American People had enough sense to be opposed to it. There are 300 million people in this country. Of COURSE there are going to be some people who react in an unadvisable way.

Chizzang wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:On a more serious note: For PETE"S sake. This kind of stuff happens all the time. That guy who was trying to hold up the extension of unemployment benefits a while back was getting death threats. Congress just passed a total boondoggle under circumstances in which, incredibly, the majority of the American People had enough sense to be opposed to it. There are 300 million people in this country. Of COURSE there are going to be some people who react in an unadvisable way.

Ah... yes Senator Jim Bunning
Who went out of his way to stop unemployment benefits...
no big deal until you understand this:
All the while (and this is a proven fact) he paid himself $180K salary from his non-profit organization and it was documented that he worked one hour a week for his salary

Ah... he's a MODEL Republican

BDKJMU wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Ah... yes Senator Jim Bunning
Who went out of his way to stop unemployment benefits...
no big deal until you understand this:
All the while (and this is a proven fact) he paid himself $180K salary from his non-profit organization and it was documented that he worked one hour a week for his salary

Ah... he's a MODEL Republican

I'm calling BS unless you have a link from something other than a left wing rag to back it up.

Ah... yes Senator Jim Bunning
Who went out of his way to stop unemployment benefits...
no big deal until you understand this:
All the while (and this is a proven fact) he paid himself $180K salary from his non-profit organization and it was documented that he worked one hour a week for his salary

Ah... he's a MODEL Republican

JohnStOnge wrote:

Ah... yes Senator Jim Bunning
Who went out of his way to stop unemployment benefits...
no big deal until you understand this:
All the while (and this is a proven fact) he paid himself $180K salary from his non-profit organization and it was documented that he worked one hour a week for his salary

Ah... he's a MODEL Republican

The point is that he took an unpopular position and got threats. It's going to happen. When you are dealing with hundreds of millions of people holding any particular position there are going to be plenty of people who do things that are embarassing.

Though it's not related to the point: Let's say it's true that he worked one hour a week for a 180K salary. I don't see how that is relevant to anything. That has absolutley nothing to do with the question of whether or not the government should be extending unemployment benefits.

Can you see the irony - keeping money from people who didn't earn it - all the while paying yourself from money that was "given" to you... something like $3,400 a week of other peoples money - for one how of work...

JohnStOnge wrote:

Can you see the irony - keeping money from people who didn't earn it - all the while paying yourself from money that was "given" to you... something like $3,400 a week of other peoples money - for one how of work...

That has absolutely nothing to do with the validity of the position he was taking. In any case, the point is that he was getting threats. It's not like taking unpopular positions and getting threats is unusual.

Chizzang wrote:All the while (and this is a proven fact) he paid himself $180K salary from his non-profit organization and it was documented that he worked one hour a week for his salary

Ah... he's a MODEL Republican

Chizzang wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
I'm calling BS unless you have a link from something other than a left wing rag to back it up.

Hey lazy turd: just google this or anything like that "The JIm Bunning Foundation scandal"

http://mydd.com/2009/6/13/ky-sen-jim-bu ... laundering" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BDKJMU wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Hey lazy turd: just google this or anything like that "The JIm Bunning Foundation scandal"

http://mydd.com/2009/6/13/ky-sen-jim-bu ... laundering" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You obviously didn't read the bolded part. So again, I'm calling BS unless you have a link from something OTHER than a left wing rag

Chizzang wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
You obviously didn't read the bolded part. So again, I'm calling BS unless you have a link from something OTHER than a left wing rag

do some research dude...
are you that helpless - it was ALL OVER THE NEWS - he was almost indicted on money laundering

I get that point John...
But if you're the kind of guy who siphons charity money to pay yourself $3,400 dollars an hour - how do you negotiate the mental land mines - without being wholly dishonest and pathological to pretend to be the person he pretended to be...

surely you can see that...? No..?

JohnStOnge wrote:

I get that point John...
But if you're the kind of guy who siphons charity money to pay yourself $3,400 dollars an hour - how do you negotiate the mental land mines - without being wholly dishonest and pathological to pretend to be the person he pretended to be...

surely you can see that...? No..?

No. He was arguing about a commitment not to spend money forcibly collected through taxes without "paying for it." That has absolutely nothing to do with how money voluntarily contributed to a charity is spent. Discussion of how much a charitable organization paid him for X hours of work is totally irrelevant.

BDKJMU wrote:
Still waiting for a link from something other than a left wing rag....

Chizzang wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
Still waiting for a link from something other than a left wing rag....

Dude...
Your inability to use Google isn't really my problem however it is somewhat alarming

catamount man wrote:very disturbing that Democratic leadership has dishonored their sworn responsibilities and incited revolution by abandoning the Constitution and falsely accusing 40% of the electorate, and all because our leaders want to transform our libertarian Constitutional Republic into a socialist utopia and avoid responsibility for their reckless actions. What has happened to America? "Progressives" no longer fear God nor truly love their fellow man, we rob and pillage from our most productive elements of society who already carry the heaviest load and call it government, and yet we tell the rest of the world how to live? Sad. This nation has jumped the shark and I don't ever see America becoming the world power again unless we return to our roots as a genuine libertarian God-fearing Constitutional republic. It could happen.

Chizzang wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
No. He was arguing about a commitment not to spend money forcibly collected through taxes without "paying for it." That has absolutely nothing to do with how money voluntarily contributed to a charity is spent. Discussion of how much a charitable organization paid him for X hours of work is totally irrelevant.

Right...
This is exactly why we have more thieves as politicians than honest men

this whole conversation - cognitive dissonance 101 - proves my point about the "Conservative Mind"

The sanctimonious right wing pontificates to the masses about morality while stealing (under another name that doesn't sound as bad as the word stealing) and tells us all how we are doing it all wrong and everybody (except themselves) is lazy and bilking the system... all the while they overtly swindle under other names

Perfect... absolutely perfect... and this all makes sense to a conservative

native wrote:
You dishonest sack of shit. The entire DEMOKRAT Obamacare monstrosity represents massive cognitive dissonance.

Chizzang wrote:

native wrote:
You dishonest sack of ****. The entire DEMOKRAT Obamacare monstrosity represents massive cognitive dissonance.

Always with the name calling and personalization
(and you know I wouldn't have voted for Obama care so why is that your go-to attack strategy..?)

aren't there a few Democrats in trouble in scandals right now you could use..? there's always a dozen or so Political A-holes out there to use in a pinch..?