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WASHINGTON — Nine members of a Michigan-based Christian militia group have been indicted on sedition and weapons charges in connection with an alleged plot to murder law enforcement officers in hopes of setting off an anti-government uprising.

In court filings unsealed Monday, the Justice Department accused the nine people of planning to kill an unidentified law enforcement officer, then plant improvised explosive devices of a type used by insurgents in Iraq to attack the funeral procession.

Eight of the defendants were arrested over the weekend in raids in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana. A ninth remained at large, the Justice Department said. The indictments against them were returned last Tuesday. The defendants were identified as members of Hutaree, described by federal prosecutors as an anti-government extremist organization based in Lenawee County, Michigan, and which advocates violence against local, state and federal law enforcement. The group saw local and state police as “foot soldiers” for the federal government, which it viewed as its enemy, along with participants in what they deemed to be a “New World Order,” according to the indictment.

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A law enforcement official said that the alleged plot was unconnected to recent threats against Democratic members of Congress who voted for legislation overhauling the nation’s health care system.

A Web site for the Hutaree group talks about a coming battle against the putative forces of the Anti-Christ and hosts an “evil Jews Forum,” but does not appear to focus explicitly on recent political events.

The Web site, which describes the group as “preparing for the end times,” featured video clips of people running through woods in camouflage gear and firing assault rifles, along with links to gun stores and far-right media. It also features an elaborate system of military ranks for its members. The site says it coined the term Hutaree, intended to mean Christian warrior.

“Jesus wanted us to be ready to defend ourselves using the sword and stay alive using equipment,” the Web site says, adding, “The Hutaree will one day see its enemy and meet him on the battlefield if so God wills it.”

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Framed

93henfan wrote:Nothing to see here. Some of us said that a certain element would come out of the woodwork if a democrat were elected president again, and guess what's happening...


Here come da choppas!!

JMU DJ wrote: Eight of the defendants were arrested over the weekend in raids in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana. A ninth remained at large, the Justice Department said.

AZGrizFan wrote:

JMU DJ wrote: Eight of the defendants were arrested over the weekend in raids in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana. A ninth remained at large, the Justice Department said.

D1B wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:

racist

Chizzang wrote:I'm always fascinated by folks making claims about "what Jesus wants"

kalm wrote:So should these terrorists go through the regular court system or should they be refused certain rights, considered enemy combatants, and shipped off to Gitmo to await a military tribunal?

houndawg wrote:Don't forget to take down the street signs to confuse the UN troops when they invade.

native wrote:

kalm wrote:So should these terrorists go through the regular court system or should they be refused certain rights, considered enemy combatants, and shipped off to Gitmo to await a military tribunal?

Although the distinction means shit to you, kalm, these particular terrorists are U.S. CITIZENS. I don't care for the fvcking idiots, but in this case, they DO deserve Constitutional rights.

Chizzang wrote:I'm always fascinated by folks making claims about "what Jesus wants"

native wrote:

kalm wrote:So should these terrorists go through the regular court system or should they be refused certain rights, considered enemy combatants, and shipped off to Gitmo to await a military tribunal?

Although the distinction means **** to you, kalm, these particular terrorists are U.S. CITIZENS. I don't care for the fvcking idiots, but in this case, they DO deserve Constitutional rights.

JohnStOnge wrote:

Chizzang wrote:I'm always fascinated by folks making claims about "what Jesus wants"

I think it's pretty easy to see a lot of Jesus' philosophy in the Gospels. They're not identical but I think they're pretty consistent in presenting His philosophical outlook. It'd be real tough to make the argument that he wants people to do what this group is alleged to have been doing. In fact, if you're honest about it, you'd have to say that he wouldn't even want you to physically defend yourself if attacked. I think that if one REALLY tried to conform to a reasonable interpretation of what Jesus would want there would be no United States because there'd have been no American Revolution. And if we suddenly went to that now we'd just lay down our arms and offer no resistance if some other country wanted to invade and take over us.

houndawg wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
I think it's pretty easy to see a lot of Jesus' philosophy in the Gospels. They're not identical but I think they're pretty consistent in presenting His philosophical outlook. It'd be real tough to make the argument that he wants people to do what this group is alleged to have been doing. In fact, if you're honest about it, you'd have to say that he wouldn't even want you to physically defend yourself if attacked. I think that if one REALLY tried to conform to a reasonable interpretation of what Jesus would want there would be no United States because there'd have been no American Revolution. And if we suddenly went to that now we'd just lay down our arms and offer no resistance if some other country wanted to invade and take over us.

Nobody knows for certain that the recycled Egyptian sun god myth called "Jesus" even existed, let alone what his real opinions might have been. Everything is third-hand friend-of-a-friend stuff put out by people who had their own agenda.. It really points to how insignificant he was in his own time; a time when the landscape was crawling with people claiming to be the messiah.

Er, John, you don't actually believe any of that Jesus nonsense, do you?

youngterrier wrote:

native wrote:
Although the distinction means **** to you, kalm, these particular terrorists are U.S. CITIZENS. I don't care for the fvcking idiots, but in this case, they DO deserve Constitutional rights.

even though no where in the Constitution does it say that Rights are limited to citizens of the United States. I believe the wording is "the people"

blueballs wrote:

houndawg wrote:
Nobody knows for certain that the recycled Egyptian sun god myth called "Jesus" even existed, let alone what his real opinions might have been. Everything is third-hand friend-of-a-friend stuff put out by people who had their own agenda.. It really points to how insignificant he was in his own time; a time when the landscape was crawling with people claiming to be the messiah.

Er, John, you don't actually believe any of that Jesus nonsense, do you?

Since there is no video or even notarized statements from 2000 years ago how can we be sure the identity, accomplishments, or opinions of anybody who existed? You don't really believe Julius Caeser or Caligula or anybody like that existed do you? After all, there is no concrete proof...

... that's why they call it FAITH.