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This country would be better off if you concentrated your fight on Muslim "legals" from Africa and the Middle East.

Another worthless, stupid bill from the Morons on 19th Ave.

Arizona easily has the most idiotic politicians in the world.

I'm not sure who would have standing or be willing to challenge it, but I have to wonder if the federal preemption doctrine would make this law unconstitutional?

Interesting question.

Its pathetic how you guys dont get it.

You see, if Mexicans can come across the border so easily and hang out here ILLEGALLY then Mohammed Ben El Gonzalez can as well.

There are laws being broken and we are not enforcing them, this is costing us all money.

Arizona should be applauded for having the balls to do what no politician or law enforcement agency will do.

Good for them.

dbackjon wrote:Another worthless, stupid bill from the Morons on 19th Ave.

Arizona easily has the most idiotic politicians in the world.

That could be solved easily if they'd wear hats outside. Folks don't realize how intense the sun is in the desert.

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: You see, if Mexicans can come across the border so easily and hang out here ILLEGALLY then Mohammed Ben El Gonzalez can as well.

There are laws being broken and we are not enforcing them, this is costing us all money.

That doesn't matter...these 'immigrants' are future cheap labor wards of the state which equal possible future Donk voters.

Laws...schmaws
Laws were made to be broken.

grizzaholic wrote:

That is beautiful and in a perfect world would be the way to go about things.

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:

That is beautiful and in a perfect world would be the way to go about things.

Sadly accurate about how things will go down here.

I just died a little inside. On this thread there was an ad right below Alpha's sig that was for the US immigration Services.

http://www.immigrationdirect.com/?gclid ... bAodczjFTQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


hahahaha

dbackjon wrote:

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:

That is beautiful and in a perfect world would be the way to go about things.

Sadly accurate about how things will go down here.

Only a lib would be sad about enforcing the law keeping ILLEGALS out and our country that much safer.

Baldy wrote:
That doesn't matter...these 'immigrants' are future cheap labor wards of the state which equal possible future Donk voters.

Ah yes, because every Hispanic individual that crosses the border votes Dem.



OH SNAP! Look at all those Hispanics who voted donk in 2004!



Congrats on marginalizing your own voting base again, Baldy.

grizzaholic wrote:I just died a little inside. On this thread there was an ad right below Alpha's sig that was for the US immigration Services.

http://www.immigrationdirect.com/?gclid ... bAodczjFTQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


hahahaha

The real funny part is that its in Engrish.................

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:I just died a little inside. On this thread there was an ad right below Alpha's sig that was for the US immigration Services.

http://www.immigrationdirect.com/?gclid ... bAodczjFTQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


hahahaha

The real funny part is that its in Engrish.................

JMU DJ wrote:

OH SNAP! Look at all those Hispanics who voted donk in 2004!

Whenever I see county maps like this one I always think its like GPS to find the minority liberal retards.

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:

JMU DJ wrote:

OH SNAP! Look at all those Hispanics who voted donk in 2004!

Whenever I see county maps like this one I always think its like GPS to find the minority liberal retards.

So let's get rid of the minority liberal retard illegal aliens, but those ones in the red counties are fine by me!

Arizona could just be the first state to pass this legislation...

Apprently four more states are interested, and people within the legislatures of those states have approached the group that helped draft the Arizona law...

Michael Hethmon, general counsel for the Immigration Reform Law Institute, helped draft the language of the Arizona bill. The institute is the legal affiliate of the Federation for American Immigration Reform.

On the heels of the Arizona initiative, Hethmon said he has been approached by lawmakers from four other states who have asked for advice on how they can do the same thing where they live. He declined to identify the states, citing attorney-client privilege.

"Arizona was meant to be the leading edge," Hethmon said. "If you are going to work on developing a state-based response to this enormous problem -- the lack of a national immigration policy -- Arizona is the place to do it."

Hethmon pointed to Arizona's history of citizen ballot initiatives in support of immigration reform, noting that "what's happening in Arizona just didn't pop out of nowhere. It's the latest step in a fairly deliberate process."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/04/21/ ... tml?hpt=T2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

JMU DJ wrote:

Baldy wrote:
That doesn't matter...these 'immigrants' are future cheap labor wards of the state which equal possible future Donk voters.

Ah yes, because every Hispanic individual that crosses the border votes Dem.



OH SNAP! Look at all those Hispanics who voted donk in 2004!

Well, shit. Anybody with a BRAINSTEM voted Conk in 2004. John Kerry? SERIOUSLY? THAT'S your benchmark?

AZGrizFan wrote:
Well, shit. Anybody with a BRAINSTEM voted Conk in 2004. John Kerry? SERIOUSLY? THAT'S your benchmark?

Laugh it up Z, when you're given the choice between Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb, it's not like either had much of a brain-stem. I'm aware that the Hispanic population leans more favorably to the Dem side, but to throw out brash statements such as "these 'immigrants' are future Donk voters," is completely erroneous. Making statements like this will only push these voters away from your party, lost votes = lost election. Typically around 30-40% of the Hispanic population votes Republican. It has been credited by many that the upsurge in the Hispanic republican vote in 2004 was the push that Bush needed to win the election.

JMU DJ wrote: Ah yes, because every Hispanic individual that crosses the border votes Dem.



OH SNAP! Look at all those Hispanics who voted donk in 2004!



Congrats on marginalizing your own voting base again, Baldy.

There you go trying to put words in my mouth again.

I didn't say EVERY illegal would vote for Donks, just the vast majority will. If you think they won't, you are sadly uninformed. just look at your silly little map. Do you think its just a coincidence that in a RED state like Texas that most of the border counties are blue?

If you don't think that is the ultimate goal, the only thing being marginalized is your common sense.

Baldy wrote:

JMU DJ wrote: Ah yes, because every Hispanic individual that crosses the border votes Dem.



OH SNAP! Look at all those Hispanics who voted donk in 2004!



Congrats on marginalizing your own voting base again, Baldy.

There you go trying to put words in my mouth again.

I didn't say EVERY illegal would vote for Donks, just the vast majority will. If you think they won't, you are sadly uninformed. just look at your silly little map. Do you think its just a coincidence that in a RED state like Texas that most of the border counties are blue?

If you don't think that is the ultimate goal, the only thing being marginalized is your common sense.

Sorry I misinterpreted your word Baldy and included all immigrants vs the vast majority, whatever percentage that is in your mind. You do realize that Hispanic voters are probably some of the most moderate voters out there? Economically Liberal, Socially Conservative. The number of legal Hispanics in America far outnumbers the illegal population, by three fold if I'm not mistaken. You can look at their voting record on the Liberal and Conservative issues if you'd like. If it's such an endemic problem, why do a majority of the red areas on the "silly little map" above (a map of your Hispanic base that elected G.W. Bush), border areas from Cali-Texas, correspond with a large Hispanic population? You'd figure all of New Mexico, most of Texas, Cali and AZ would be "Blue" in the map above if the majority were voting "Dem."


Another "Silly" map for you:


You are aware that polls have been conducted and a majority of Hispanics in America think there should be immigration enforcement, that the enforcement is inadequate and that immigration is too high in this country. If you'd pay any attention, you'd see the numbers of Hispanic voters registering as Democrats has dropped over the past decade, just look at all those red areas in California and then compare them to the Hispanic population. I agree that most of the population that comes in registers Democratic, but it's also well known that between second and third generation immigrants, the number of registered Dems v Repubs is equal. You'd figure that since the Hispanic population historically have conservative values, the Republican party would be doing everything they can to utilize this base. Bush did something right, in his election for Governor and President, he spoke to the conservative values of his Hispanic base.


Keep on Keepin' on Baldy, your misinformation will keep you well.

And pandering to the illegals by ignoring laws the Dems are banking on growing their entitlement base.

Walk off home run!

yosef1969 wrote:And pandering to the illegals by ignoring laws the Dems are banking on growing their entitlement base.

Swing and a miss. Illegals can't vote, nor can legal non-citizens...