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Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:18 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
You can check it on Snopes at
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I had never heard the word until now---Type it into Google and start reading. Pretty interesting.
Word of the Day: Dhimmitude
Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to islam.
The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia muslim diktat in the United States . Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be "gambling", "risk-taking" and "usury" and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this.
How convenient. So I, Robert McClurkan, a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de facto government insurance. Non-muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize muslims. Period. This is Dhimmitude.
Dhimmitude serves two purposes: it enriches the muslim masters AND serves to drive conversions to islam. In this case, the incentive to convert to islam will be taken up by those in the inner-cities as well as the godless Generation X, Y and Z types who have no moral anchor. If you don't believe in Christ to begin with, it is no problem whatsoever to sell Him for 30 pieces of silver. "Sure, I'll be a muslim if it means free health insurance and no taxes. Where do I sign, bro?"
I recommend sending this post to your contacts. This is desperately important and people need to know about it - quickly.
I did check Google on Dhimmitude and the horrific Obamacare about certain sects being exempt from his health care. Yep, you are right. What a slap in the face. Obama is a Muslim using Marxist tactics to boot. What a deadly combination.
I had never heard the word until now---Type it into Google and start reading. Pretty interesting.
Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:11 pm
by 93henfan
Preaching to the choir here. The Amish buggies in this state destroy the shoulders of the roads, yet they pay no registration fees for buggies and obviously no road taxes (via gasoline). They make a mean fucking barbecue pork sandwich though, so I don't complain too much.
Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:14 pm
by danefan
Interesting..........The exemptions were placed in the bill to ensure its Consitutionality. You know that little part of freedom of religion in that document you like refer to as being "trampled on" by every policy you don't agree with.
Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:19 pm
by ∞∞∞
let's believe all emails circulating around the 'net.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/govern ... andate.htm
always the warning sign:
I recommend sending this post to your contacts. This is desperately important and people need to know about it - quickly.
Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:22 pm
by 93henfan
That link doesn't seem to disavow that a Muslim would be able to exempt himself from mandatory health coverage. Am I reading it wrong?
Trust me when I say I am very skeptical of chain mails, frequently check Snopes and Urban Legends, and rarely agree with Sprout. Still, I think he's partially right with this one; not that Obama is purposely passing Islamic law, but that he is in fact leaving the door open for religious groups to avoid mandates.
Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:27 pm
by ∞∞∞
93henfan wrote:
That link doesn't seem to disavow that a Muslim would be able to exempt himself from mandatory health coverage. Am I reading it wrong?
Trust me when I say I am very skeptical of chain mails, frequently check Snopes and Urban Legends, and rarely agree with Sprout. Still, I think he's partially right with this one.
It doesn't disavow it, but it seems like a more neutral answer to dhimmitude (something I too just learned about). That chain email makes Obama/Congress' intent way more sinister than it really is.
Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:28 pm
by 93henfan
∞∞∞ wrote:That chain email makes Obama/Congress' intent way more sinister than it really is.
Totally agree.

Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:29 pm
by 93henfan
Dhimmitude sounds like a way of describing Paris Hilton's persona.
Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:30 pm
by Appaholic
93henfan wrote:
That link doesn't seem to disavow that a Muslim would be able to exempt himself from mandatory health coverage. Am I reading it wrong?
Trust me when I say I am very skeptical of chain mails, frequently check Snopes and Urban Legends, and rarely agree with Sprout. Still, I think he's partially right with this one; not that Obama is purposely passing Islamic law, but that he is in fact leaving the door open for religious groups to avoid mandates.
You're correct, but so can certain Christian sects (Amish) I would imagine....it's gonna be kind of hard for muslims to claim this exemption...well, any muslims who are legally driving in a state that requires auto insurance to be a licensed driver...
Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:30 pm
by Benne
∞∞∞ wrote:93henfan wrote:
That link doesn't seem to disavow that a Muslim would be able to exempt himself from mandatory health coverage. Am I reading it wrong?
Trust me when I say I am very skeptical of chain mails, frequently check Snopes and Urban Legends, and rarely agree with Sprout. Still, I think he's partially right with this one.
It doesn't disavow it, but it seems like a more neutral answer to dhimmitude (something I too just learned about). That chain email makes Obama/Congress' intent way more sinister than it really is.
Oh and Obama is a muslim-marxist-socialist-communist and doesn't love Jesus.
Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:31 pm
by danefan
Benne wrote:∞∞∞ wrote:
It doesn't disavow it, but it seems like a more neutral answer to dhimmitude (something I too just learned about). That chain email makes Obama/Congress' intent way more sinister than it really is.
Oh and Obama is a muslim-marxist-socialist-communist and doesn't love Jesus.
Don't forget baby killer.

Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:32 pm
by 93henfan
I'm going to start a religion that considers paying taxes to be gambling. Who's with me?
I'll get the PayPal account set up tonight.
Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:33 pm
by Benne
danefan wrote:Benne wrote:
Oh and Obama is a muslim-marxist-socialist-communist and doesn't love Jesus.
Don't forget baby killer.

and also un-white
Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:38 pm
by danefan
BTW, thinking about the religious exemptions more, I don't even necessarily think they needed it to be consitutional. I think they did it to appease the religious sects that would have challeneged it based on the 1st Amendment free exercise clause, but I think the government would have had a pretty good argument to uphold the law even in spit of the 1st Amend based on the peyote case (Smith).
But that isn't the point of the thread. The point is that Obama put the clause in there because he's a Muslim and is merely "taxing" the non-muslims for the right to live. Which, of course, is clearly what happened.
Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:40 pm
by Appaholic
danefan wrote:But that isn't the point of the thread. The point is that Obama put the clause in there because he's a Muslim and is merely "taxing" the non-muslims for the right to live. Which, of course, is clearly what happened.
Why do you hate America so much Dane....

Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:44 pm
by danefan
Appaholic wrote:danefan wrote:But that isn't the point of the thread. The point is that Obama put the clause in there because he's a Muslim and is merely "taxing" the non-muslims for the right to live. Which, of course, is clearly what happened.
Why do you hate America so much Dane....

Because my god told me to.

Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:57 pm
by ∞∞∞
Benne wrote:danefan wrote:
Don't forget baby killer.
and also un-white
also this, whatever this is:

Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:10 pm
by danefan
∞∞∞ wrote:Benne wrote:
and also un-white
also this, whatever this is:

King of the Unicorns. Duh.

Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:18 pm
by dbackjon
This chain email is further proof how fucking moronic the right wing is, how they are easily cowed and scared by the fact that a non-white is President, and that they believe anything.
Also, that AlphaGriz is actually a flaming liberal wannabe who trolls conservative websites looking for nuggets like this in order to see what reactions he can get, laughing between stuffing his face with deep-fried chocolate-covered Oreos.
Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:23 pm
by grizzaholic
dbackjon wrote:This chain email is further proof how fucking moronic the right wing is, how they are easily cowed and scared by the fact that a non-white is President, and that they believe anything.
Also, that AlphaGriz is actually a flaming liberal wannabe who trolls conservative websites looking for nuggets like this in order to see what reactions he can get, laughing between stuffing his face with deep-fried chocolate-covered Oreos.
Grow up. Just because your savior turned out to be nothing but a failure, you resort to what talking shit...something that you are supposed to be "better than".

Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:35 pm
by ∞∞∞
The right wing isn't moronic. Misguided, probably...but who in politics isn't? The right thinks the left are morons, the left thinks the right are morons...it's all a matter of perspective really; it goes both ways.
Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:53 pm
by dbackjon
grizzaholic wrote:dbackjon wrote:This chain email is further proof how fucking moronic the right wing is, how they are easily cowed and scared by the fact that a non-white is President, and that they believe anything.
Also, that AlphaGriz is actually a flaming liberal wannabe who trolls conservative websites looking for nuggets like this in order to see what reactions he can get, laughing between stuffing his face with deep-fried chocolate-covered Oreos.
Grow up. Just because your savior turned out to be nothing but a failure, you resort to what talking shit...something that you are supposed to be "better than".

1) Grow a funny bone
2) Never claimed him to be a savior - that is the Wacko-Right's doing. I have criticized him on many occasions
3) He is far better than either the Shrub was, or McPalin would have been. The Republicans have done a great job of destroying the country, it is going to take a lot to restore it, and it certainly won't happen overnight.
Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:27 pm
by Col Hogan
dbackjon wrote:grizzaholic wrote:
Grow up. Just because your savior turned out to be nothing but a failure, you resort to what talking ****...something that you are supposed to be "better than".

1) Grow a funny bone
2) Never claimed him to be a savior - that is the Wacko-Right's doing. I have criticized him on many occasions
3) He is far better than either the Shrub was, or McPalin would have been. The Republicans have done a great job of destroying the country, it is going to take a lot to restore it, and it certainly won't happen overnight.
4) It won't happen under the current administration
Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:31 pm
by dbackjon
Col Hogan wrote:dbackjon wrote:
1) Grow a funny bone
2) Never claimed him to be a savior - that is the Wacko-Right's doing. I have criticized him on many occasions
3) He is far better than either the Shrub was, or McPalin would have been. The Republicans have done a great job of destroying the country, it is going to take a lot to restore it, and it certainly won't happen overnight.
4) It won't happen under the current administration with the Republicans being obstructionist to everything trying to fear the public into voting for them again
FTFY
Re: Dhimmitude
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:35 pm
by Col Hogan
dbackjon wrote:Col Hogan wrote:
1) Grow a funny bone
2) Never claimed him to be a savior - that is the Wacko-Right's doing. I have criticized him on many occasions
3) He is far better than either the Shrub was, or McPalin would have been. The Republicans have done a great job of destroying the country, it is going to take a lot to restore it, and it certainly won't happen overnight.
4) It won't happen with the current administration trying to force everything through with no input from the Republicans, despite polls showing the people want bi-partisan government
Got it...