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Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:03 pm
by dbackjon
A human trading error at a major firm was the root cause of Thursday's sudden, 9 percent selloff in U.S. stocks, sources told CNBC.

Multiple sources said a trader entered the letter "b"-as in "billion"-when he or she meant to type "m," for "million," shortly before 2:47 p.m. New York time.

U.S. stocks plunged suddenly, briefly by more than 9 percent, before pulling back to a near 3 percent drop, as investor worries mounted that Greece's debt problems could spread.

Sources also told CNBC that the firm in question is Citigroup.

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:06 pm
by AZGrizFan
riiiiiight.

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:11 pm
by Ivytalk
I read that a misposting of a Procter & Gamble stock price -- someone said it was 39 or so when it was really 62 -- was involved.

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:12 pm
by dbackjon
AZGrizFan wrote:riiiiiight.
have you seen some of the spreads on stocks - accenture went from 42 to .01, yes ONE CENT today briefly.

Proctor and Gamble had similar trades.

Something screwy happened today.

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:14 pm
by danefan
I hope all my trades get honored today. Hmmm....I better check again. I was lighitng up Sharebuilder this afternoon during that dip.

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:30 pm
by danefan
Here's some interesting video. Cramer (kind of a dbag) picking some serious buy points on P&G and then flat out saying the computer must have broke for 30 seconds.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1487022682&play=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Pretty interesting.

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:31 pm
by danefan
Now they're saying no error at Citi afterall.

Cyper attack anyone?

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:33 pm
by grizzaholic
danefan wrote:Now they're saying no error at Citi afterall.

Cyper attack anyone?
One word.






















CHINA

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:41 pm
by Ivytalk
When in doubt, blame the Arabs. 8-)

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:54 pm
by ASUG8
danefan wrote:Here's some interesting video. Cramer (kind of a dbag) picking some serious buy points on P&G and then flat out saying the computer must have broke for 30 seconds.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1487022682&play=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Pretty interesting.
No "kind of" about it......I can't stand that MF. I'd take a Seattle weatherman over his accuracy any day. :twocents:

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:58 pm
by danefan
ASUG8 wrote:
danefan wrote:Here's some interesting video. Cramer (kind of a dbag) picking some serious buy points on P&G and then flat out saying the computer must have broke for 30 seconds.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1487022682&play=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Pretty interesting.
No "kind of" about it......I can't stand that MF. I'd take a Seattle weatherman over his accuracy any day. :twocents:
he does have some good insight on certain industries though (telecom and railraod for example). I follow the rule that if he picks a stock to wait until about a month after he picks it to buy. There's usually a tick up with blind followers buying and then a sell-off from those who owned before he picked it. his show does have an impact, or should I say did have an impact before the market went nuts last year.

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 6:04 pm
by native
Nothing but Obama's chickens coming home to roost. :ohno:

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 6:13 pm
by SDHornet
danefan wrote:Now they're saying no error at Citi afterall.

Cyper attack anyone?
This is exactly what came to my mind when I saw the dip. I wonder if we will ever be told what happened.

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 6:24 pm
by ASUG8
danefan wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:
No "kind of" about it......I can't stand that MF. I'd take a Seattle weatherman over his accuracy any day. :twocents:
he does have some good insight on certain industries though (telecom and railraod for example). I follow the rule that if he picks a stock to wait until about a month after he picks it to buy. There's usually a tick up with blind followers buying and then a sell-off from those who owned before he picked it. his show does have an impact, or should I say did have an impact before the market went nuts last year.
kinda takes the whole "random walk" of the market out of the question. I'm sure he has trading rules he has to follow and I'll bet the SEC watches his every move. To his credit he appears to have a working knowledge of many of the companies that viewers call in about, but his ability to move the market should be watched with some scrutiny.

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 6:46 pm
by travelinman67
Sounds like we need financial market regulation... :whistle:

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 7:30 am
by danefan
Here we go again

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Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 8:39 am
by wideright82
its days like these I'm glad I'm in a kitchen all the time now :lol:

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 8:41 am
by dbackjon
wideright82 wrote:its days like these I'm glad I'm in a kitchen all the time now :lol:
As opposed to being in a pressure cooker?


And good to see ya, Roberta

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 8:41 am
by danefan
wideright82 wrote:its days like these I'm glad I'm in a kitchen all the time now :lol:
:lol:

These guys are pulling out their hair at 10:00am and celebrating with champagne at 10:30am, only to pull out more hair at 11:00am.

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 9:12 am
by grizzaholic
wideright82 wrote:its days like these I'm glad I'm in a kitchen all the time now :lol:
So, citdog decided that he wasn't getting enough sammiches from the women folk and had to get a line cook to get them out faster?

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:17 am
by 93henfan
NASDAQ has canceled almost 300 trades (without ability to appeal) made between 2 and 3 pm yesterday:

http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/07/markets ... yes&hpt=T3

People were balking about P&G, but look what happened to Accenture and Sam Adams during that timeframe :o :
Accenture (ACN) fell from $40.13 at 2:45 p.m. all the way to just 1 cent before quickly rising back to $39.57.

Sam Adams maker Boston Beer Co. (SAM) also fell to a penny before recovering to $55.82.
Damn. And here I was thinking SAM was my first 5,000-bagger. :ohno:

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:25 am
by 93henfan
grizzaholic wrote:
danefan wrote:Now they're saying no error at Citi afterall.

Cyper attack anyone?
One word.

CHINA
That's not so far-fetched. US intelligence has all but confirmed that China has already been playing significant cyber-games around the world. Of particular note are some power grids that they knocked out in South America recently.

If we weren't such a gold-mine for them in terms of interest and consumption, they could send us back to the stone age (well, early industrial age anyway) at the flip of a switch.

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:08 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
The only problem we had with the stock market during the Bush administration was being over 12k alot.

This idiot Obama is running this country into the ground like a flight 93.

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:20 am
by 93henfan
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:The only problem we had with the stock market during the Bush administration was being over 12k alot.
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That being said, the President doesn't exactly have a whole helluva lot to do with how the stock market performs.

Re: Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff

Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:22 am
by danefan
93henfan wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:The only problem we had with the stock market during the Bush administration was being over 12k alot.
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That being said, the President doesn't exactly have a whole helluva lot to do with how the stock market performs.
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