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Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:18 pm
by travelinman67
Nobody can do the straight-face, tongue-in-cheek as well as the Russians.
Pirates 'have all died,' Russia says, after decrying 'imperfections' in international law
By Associated Press
May 11, 2010, 3:43PM
http://www.cleveland.com/world/index.ss ... sia_s.html
MOSCOW, Russia — Following high level complaints about "imperfections" in international law, Russia announced Tuesday that captured Somali pirates "have all died." A Russian official claimed that 10 pirates seized by Russian special forces aboard an oil tanker last week were quickly freed but then died on their way back to the Somali coast.
The unidentified high-ranking Defense Ministry official did not elaborate on how the pirates died, deepening a mystery that has prompted speculation the pirates were executed by commandos who had freed a Russian oil tanker seized in waters 500 miles (800 kilometers) east of Somalia's coast.
The official told Russian news agencies the pirates' boat disappeared from Russian radar about an hour after their release.
"They could not reach the coast and, apparently, have all died," the official said.
The Defense Ministry could not be reached despite repeated phone calls Tuesday to the press office and the cell phones of spokesmen.
Russian officials have said one of the 11 pirates was killed during a gunbattle when the Russian special forces stormed the tanker on Thursday. The others, some said to have been wounded, were brought aboard a Russian destroyer.
Officials initially said they would be taken to Russia for trial, but the Defense Ministry said Friday they'd been released because of "imperfections" in international law. The statement was met with skepticism, especially in light of a comment made by the Russian president.
'Do what our forefathers did'
"We'll have to do what our forefathers did when they met the pirates" until the international community comes up with a legal way of prosecuting them, Dmitry Medvedev said on the day the ship was stormed.
The international community has had difficulty formulating an accepted policy for trying suspected pirates.
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:44 pm
by native
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:53 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Haha, that's pretty awesome.
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:57 pm
by Grizalltheway
Note to self: Don't hijack Russian oil tankers.
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:00 am
by Skjellyfetti
I bet if Russia tortured the shit out of them and sent them back to their village... I bet pirates would avoid Russian ships.
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:32 am
by travelinman67
Musta not been wearing their life jackets...
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:42 am
by Col Hogan
Skjellyfetti wrote:I bet if Russia tortured the **** out of them and sent them back to their village... I bet pirates would avoid Russian ships.
You don't think word of this won't spread???
I think they accompished the same thing, with plausable deniability...
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:50 am
by houndawg
Col Hogan wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:I bet if Russia tortured the **** out of them and sent them back to their village... I bet pirates would avoid Russian ships.
You don't think word of this won't spread???
I think they accompished the same thing, with plausable deniability...
Hope so, but I wouldn't underestimate them; the Somali's aren't afraid of a fight.
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:10 am
by 89Hen
WTG Russians!
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:12 am
by 93henfan
Efficiency. It's a beautiful thing.
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:01 am
by ODUsmitty
Quite a shame that this event did not occur along the Arizona - Mexican border.
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:08 am
by grizzaholic
I just cannot believe all of you. Wishing the worst and celebrating the killings of other humans.
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:23 am
by bandl
grizzaholic wrote:I just cannot believe all of you. Wishing the worst and celebrating the killings of other humans.
The Somalians were actually released in Siberia and hunted down and eaten by ______, if that makes you feel any better about it all.
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:31 am
by Rob Iola
Lead poisoning?
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:32 am
by D1B
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:33 am
by 93henfan
Rob Iola wrote:Lead poisoning?
Could have been dehydration.
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:37 am
by 89Hen
93henfan wrote:Rob Iola wrote:Lead poisoning?
Could have been dehydration.
You mean overhydration.
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:55 am
by dbackjon
JayBilasBitesPillows wrote:Quite a shame that this event did not occur along the Arizona - Mexican border.
Pirates? Hijacking ships in the desert?
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:07 am
by Col Hogan
Rob Iola wrote:Lead poisoning?
Naw...they drilled a few holes in their boat and tied a piece of bloody meat to the bottom...then told them to leave...
Sharks got a good feeding...
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:13 am
by travelinman67
Russians even gave them an hour after being released...
...to say their prayers.
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:18 am
by CitadelGrad
Skjellyfetti wrote:I bet if Russia tortured the shit out of them and sent them back to their village... I bet pirates would avoid Russian ships.
Yeah, but lefties like you go ballistic over a little waterboarding in Gitmo.
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:01 am
by grizzaholic
bandl wrote:grizzaholic wrote:I just cannot believe all of you. Wishing the worst and celebrating the killings of other humans.
The Somalians were actually released in Siberia and hunted down and eaten by ______, if that makes you feel any better about it all.
No. Not really.
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:18 am
by Skjellyfetti
CitadelGrad wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:I bet if Russia tortured the **** out of them and sent them back to their village... I bet pirates would avoid Russian ships.
Yeah, but lefties like you go ballistic over a little waterboarding in Gitmo.
No shit. They're fucking Russia. Stalin, Nicholas II, Russian Revolution, etc. They aren't exactly known for their humanity or the belief in liberty, justice, freedom, etc.
We're the US, if we're known for anything... it's being a bastion of liberty, justice, freedom, etc. We should hold ourselves to a higher standard.
"Oh, but the terrorists behead people! That means we should be able to torture, right?!"
"Oh, look at what the Russians did! My John Burke card carrying father would beat me beyond recognition for saying it... but, I wish our country would take after them!"
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:26 am
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:CitadelGrad wrote:
Yeah, but lefties like you go ballistic over a little waterboarding in Gitmo.
No shit. They're fucking Russia. Stalin, Nicholas II, Russian Revolution, etc. They aren't exactly known for their humanity or the belief in liberty, justice, freedom, etc.
We're the US, if we're known for anything... it's being a bastion of liberty, justice, freedom, etc. We should hold ourselves to a higher standard.
"Oh, but the terrorists behead people! That means we should be able to torture, right?!"
"Oh, look at what the Russians did! My John Burke card carrying father would beat me beyond recognition for saying it... but, I wish our country would take after them!"
Yet you do not deny the effectiveness of torture.
Re: Russia:"Pirates were released, then they all died."
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:34 am
by Skjellyfetti
As an interrogation technique. Not as a deterrent.
If the penalty for all felonies was life in prison with torture for 18 hours a day.... it would be a pretty effective deterrent, imo. Doesn't mean it's Constitutional or that we should consider it. But, I bet felonies would be reduced over time.