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Pelosi Wants Help from the Church on Immigration Reform
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:04 pm
by AZGrizFan
You can't make this shit up.
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Thursday urged Catholic leaders to "instruct" their parishioners to support immigration reforms, saying clerics should "play a very major role" in supporting Democratic policies.
"The cardinals, the archbishops, the bishops that come to me and say, 'We want you to pass immigration reform,' and I said, 'I want you to speak about it from the pulpit. I want you to instruct your' -- whatever the communication is," said Pelosi, who is Catholic, speaking at the Nation's Catholic Community conference sponsored by Trinity Washington University and the National Catholic Reporter.
"The people, some (who) oppose immigration reform, are sitting in those pews, and you have to tell them that this is a manifestation of our living the gospels," she said.
While it's not unusual for clergy to speak about politics from the pulpit, it is uncommon for a lawmaker to openly encourage them to preach a specific policy.
Let's encourage clergy to speak about politics from the pulpit, but Godfor-fucking-BID a bunch of old senior citizens get to pray before they consume a government sponsored meal.
Guess the concept of separation of church and state only can go so far, huh?

Re: Pelosi Wants Help from the Church on Immigration Reform
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:07 pm
by grizzaholic
AZGrizFan wrote:You can't make this shit up.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05 ... -overhaul/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Thursday urged Catholic leaders to "instruct" their parishioners to support immigration reforms, saying clerics should "play a very major role" in supporting Democratic policies.
"The cardinals, the archbishops, the bishops that come to me and say, 'We want you to pass immigration reform,' and I said, 'I want you to speak about it from the pulpit. I want you to instruct your' -- whatever the communication is," said Pelosi, who is Catholic, speaking at the Nation's Catholic Community conference sponsored by Trinity Washington University and the National Catholic Reporter.
"The people, some (who) oppose immigration reform, are sitting in those pews, and you have to tell them that this is a manifestation of our living the gospels," she said.
While it's not unusual for clergy to speak about politics from the pulpit, it is uncommon for a lawmaker to openly encourage them to preach a specific policy.
Let's encourage clergy to speak about politics from the pulpit, but Godfor-fucking-BID a bunch of old senior citizens get too pray before they consume a government sponsored meal.
Guess the concept of separation of church and state only can go so far, huh?


Re: Pelosi Wants Help from the Church on Immigration Reform
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:26 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Well, not about to defend this. I hate churches getting involved in politics.
Unless she is trying to prod Catholic churches to getting to involved and losing their tax exemptions... but, she isn't clever enough to do that... and she lacks the huevos to ever try to enforce that.
Re: Pelosi Wants Help from the Church on Immigration Reform
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:33 pm
by danefan
Pure dumbassedness.
Re: Pelosi Wants Help from the Church on Immigration Reform
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:43 pm
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:Well, not about to defend this. I hate churches getting involved in politics.
Unless she is trying to prod Catholic churches to getting to involved and losing their tax exemptions... but, she isn't clever enough to do that... and she lacks the huevos to ever try to enforce that.
Just think, KY....this dumb broad is 2 bullets from the Presidency.

Re: Pelosi Wants Help from the Church on Immigration Reform
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:45 pm
by danefan
AZGrizFan wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:Well, not about to defend this. I hate churches getting involved in politics.
Unless she is trying to prod Catholic churches to getting to involved and losing their tax exemptions... but, she isn't clever enough to do that... and she lacks the huevos to ever try to enforce that.
Just think, KY....this dumb broad is 2 bullets from the Presidency.

Lets just hope there's 3 bullets then.

Re: Pelosi Wants Help from the Church on Immigration Reform
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:47 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Re: Pelosi Wants Help from the Church on Immigration Reform
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:48 pm
by Col Hogan
So, she totally rejects Church teachings on abortion but come running with her rosary in hand to teach us about immigration...
Right...
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Re: Pelosi Wants Help from the Church on Immigration Reform
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:56 pm
by AZGrizFan
Re: Pelosi Wants Help from the Church on Immigration Reform
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:48 pm
by kalm
She is fucking horrible. And that speaks volumes about the party who put her in place as speaker.

Re: Pelosi Wants Help from the Church on Immigration Reform
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:06 pm
by D1B
I heard a little bit of this on the Dennis Miller radio show. She's a fuckhead but could she be taking the catholic church to task for not fullfilling its mission to defend immigrants? I'm not sure....
This especially since the church, now an arm of the state since the advent of faith-based funding bullshit,
completely failed the poor by not taking a meaningful and active role in supporting health care reform.
Catholic church is a fucking joke.
Re: Pelosi Wants Help from the Church on Immigration Reform
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:28 pm
by dbackjon
No defense of this from me.
Re: Pelosi Wants Help from the Church on Immigration Reform
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:40 pm
by Chizzang
dbackjon wrote:No defense of this from me.
agreed - It's not a politicians place to engage the church regarding the enforcement of Federal laws
This simply exposes the Federal Government to more involvement from Religious organizations which the Federal Govt' should have ZERO comment on and ZERO involvement with
Bad Nancy - Now go back to being asleep at the wheel

Re: Pelosi Wants Help from the Church on Immigration Reform
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:49 pm
by AZGrizFan
D1B wrote:I heard a little bit of this on the Dennis Miller radio show. She's a fuckhead but could she be taking the catholic church to task for not fullfilling its mission to defend immigrants? I'm not sure....
This especially since the church, now an arm of the state since the advent of faith-based funding bullshit,
completely failed the poor by not taking a meaningful and active role in supporting health care reform.
Catholic church is a fucking joke.
Which would make it and the Democratic party a perfect match.
Re: Pelosi Wants Help from the Church on Immigration Reform
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:57 pm
by Ivytalk
danefan wrote:Pure dumbassedness.
One man's dumbassedness is another's douchebaggery!

Re: Pelosi Wants Help from the Church on Immigration Reform
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:54 pm
by D1B
AZGrizFan wrote:D1B wrote:I heard a little bit of this on the Dennis Miller radio show. She's a fuckhead but could she be taking the catholic church to task for not fullfilling its mission to defend immigrants? I'm not sure....
This especially since the church, now an arm of the state since the advent of faith-based funding bullshit,
completely failed the poor by not taking a meaningful and active role in supporting health care reform.
Catholic church is a fucking joke.
Which would make it and the Democratic party a perfect match.
Absolutely, especially now that the dems are pro life.