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Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:44 am
by dbackjon
A provision that targeted the very heart of a banking law that lured major credit card companies -- and tens of thousands of jobs -- to Delaware 20 years ago was rejected 60-35.

The amendment to the financial reform bill would have allowed all 50 states to impose individual interest rate caps on out-of-state lenders -- meaning card companies would not be able to use one national rate set in the state where they are chartered.

States such as Delaware and South Dakota attracted credit card firms in droves 20 years ago when they removed credit card interest rate caps, allowing banks such as JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America and Discover to establish state charters and charge rates of their own choosing nationwide.

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Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:45 am
by dbackjon
34 Democrats and 1 Republican sided with consumers over Wall Street

Akaka (D-HI)
Begich (D-AK)
Bennet (D-CO)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Burris (D-IL)
Cardin (D-MD)
Casey (D-PA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Harkin (D-IA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
LeMieux (R-FL)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:48 am
by mainejeff
F those 60!

:coffee:

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:05 am
by Ivytalk
mainejeff wrote:F those 60!

:coffee:
Don't like the rates? Pay your card on time. :coffee:

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:07 am
by Grizalltheway
Ivytalk wrote:
mainejeff wrote:F those 60!

:coffee:
Don't like the rates? Pay your card on time. :coffee:
Gotta love how usury is a sin conveniently forgotten by God-fearin' conks. :coffee:

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:09 am
by Ivytalk
Grizalltheway wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
Don't like the rates? Pay your card on time. :coffee:
Gotta love how usury is a sin conveniently forgotten by God-fearin' conks. :coffee:
In this case, it's a self-inflicted wound. Pay in cash. :roll:

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:09 am
by AZGrizFan
Ivytalk wrote:
mainejeff wrote:F those 60!

:coffee:
Don't like the rates? Pay your card on time. :coffee:
Or don't do business with them. It really ain't all that hard. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:24 am
by GannonFan
Yup - choose your card wisely. Don't like the rates on one? Then don't use it. I still, in this economy, get 4-5 mailings a day for new credit cards - it's not like there aren't tons of choices out there. And there's certainly something to be said about avoiding the rates altogether by paying your bill, in full, on time.

Consumers aren't being hurt by the lack of choice - consumers are being hurt by picking their cards poorly and then spending too much.

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:34 am
by Grizalltheway
Ivytalk wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Gotta love how usury is a sin conveniently forgotten by God-fearin' conks. :coffee:
In this case, it's a self-inflicted wound. Pay in cash. :roll:
No bodily damage here. My score is north of 760. :coffee:

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:38 am
by OL FU
Price controls = less supply and higher prices overall. Good move to kick that one to the curb.

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:40 am
by blueballs
GannonFan wrote:Yup - choose your card wisely. Don't like the rates on one? Then don't use it. I still, in this economy, get 4-5 mailings a day for new credit cards - it's not like there aren't tons of choices out there. And there's certainly something to be said about avoiding the rates altogether by paying your bill, in full, on time.

Consumers aren't being hurt by the lack of choice - consumers are being hurt by picking their cards poorly and then spending too much.
All true... and if you don't want to receive the "pre-approved" (nothing is pre-approved, ever) solicitations go to this website and register:

http://www.optoutprescreen.com

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:42 am
by dbackjon
blueballs wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Yup - choose your card wisely. Don't like the rates on one? Then don't use it. I still, in this economy, get 4-5 mailings a day for new credit cards - it's not like there aren't tons of choices out there. And there's certainly something to be said about avoiding the rates altogether by paying your bill, in full, on time.

Consumers aren't being hurt by the lack of choice - consumers are being hurt by picking their cards poorly and then spending too much.
All true... and if you don't want to receive the "pre-approved" (nothing is pre-approved, ever) solicitations go to this website and register:

http://www.optoutprescreen.com
Good link!

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:55 am
by mainejeff
Ivytalk wrote:
mainejeff wrote:F those 60!

:coffee:
Don't like the rates? Pay your card on time. :coffee:
I do Hahvahd. Pay my AMEX on time every month and don't own any other ones.

Whadboutu?

:coffee:

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:56 am
by mainejeff
Grizalltheway wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
Don't like the rates? Pay your card on time. :coffee:
Gotta love how usury is a sin conveniently forgotten by God-fearin' conks. :coffee:
I'm sure that it's a new entry in that ever changing Bible....... :roll: :roll: :roll:

:coffee:

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:57 am
by mainejeff
Ivytalk wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Gotta love how usury is a sin conveniently forgotten by God-fearin' conks. :coffee:
In this case, it's a self-inflicted wound. Pay in cash. :roll:
OK Biff....... :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:58 am
by mainejeff
AZGrizFan wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
Don't like the rates? Pay your card on time. :coffee:
Or don't do business with them. It really ain't all that hard. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Agreed. That would put a few more people in Delaware and the Dakotas on the unemployment line. :thumb:

:coffee:

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:00 pm
by mainejeff
GannonFan wrote:Yup - choose your card wisely. Don't like the rates on one? Then don't use it. I still, in this economy, get 4-5 mailings a day for new credit cards - it's not like there aren't tons of choices out there. And there's certainly something to be said about avoiding the rates altogether by paying your bill, in full, on time.

Consumers aren't being hurt by the lack of choice - consumers are being hurt by picking their cards poorly and then spending too much.
Not so much anymore........and "choice"???.......gimme a break. :roll:

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:02 pm
by mainejeff
blueballs wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Yup - choose your card wisely. Don't like the rates on one? Then don't use it. I still, in this economy, get 4-5 mailings a day for new credit cards - it's not like there aren't tons of choices out there. And there's certainly something to be said about avoiding the rates altogether by paying your bill, in full, on time.

Consumers aren't being hurt by the lack of choice - consumers are being hurt by picking their cards poorly and then spending too much.
All true... and if you don't want to receive the "pre-approved" (nothing is pre-approved, ever) solicitations go to this website and register:

http://www.optoutprescreen.com
Why do WE have to "opt out" of everything if we didn't ask for it in the first place???........ :roll:

Effin corporations and politicians.

:coffee:

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:07 pm
by Ivytalk
Grizalltheway wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
In this case, it's a self-inflicted wound. Pay in cash. :roll:
No bodily damage here. My combined SAT score is north of 760. :coffee:
FIFY, and impressive! What was better, math or verbal? :mrgreen:

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:08 pm
by Ivytalk
mainejeff wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
Don't like the rates? Pay your card on time. :coffee:
I do Hahvahd. Pay my AMEX on time every month and don't own any other ones.

Whadboutu?

:coffee:
Zero balance, jeffster.

And I hear Kelly McGillis thinks you're hot.

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:11 pm
by Grizalltheway
Ivytalk wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
No bodily damage here. My combined SAT score is north of 760. :coffee:
FIFY, and impressive! What was better, math or verbal? :mrgreen:
I did so well on the ACT I didn't need that wack SAT BS. :kisswink:

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:36 pm
by mainejeff
Ivytalk wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
I do Hahvahd. Pay my AMEX on time every month and don't own any other ones.

Whadboutu?

:coffee:
Zero balance, jeffster.

And I hear Kelly McGillis thinks you're hot.
Who?

:coffee:

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:43 pm
by GannonFan
mainejeff wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Yup - choose your card wisely. Don't like the rates on one? Then don't use it. I still, in this economy, get 4-5 mailings a day for new credit cards - it's not like there aren't tons of choices out there. And there's certainly something to be said about avoiding the rates altogether by paying your bill, in full, on time.

Consumers aren't being hurt by the lack of choice - consumers are being hurt by picking their cards poorly and then spending too much.
Not so much anymore........and "choice"???.......gimme a break. :roll:
Well, it's been at least one credit card app each day this week - apparently the direct mailer business is not doing that poorly. And yeah, there's plenty of choice, especially the most important one - to get one or not to get one. No one is mandated to have a credit card.

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:44 pm
by GannonFan
mainejeff wrote:
blueballs wrote:
All true... and if you don't want to receive the "pre-approved" (nothing is pre-approved, ever) solicitations go to this website and register:

http://www.optoutprescreen.com
Why do WE have to "opt out" of everything if we didn't ask for it in the first place???........ :roll:

Effin corporations and politicians.

:coffee:
It's a way to keep the Post Office running - there'd be lots of days where many people would get no mail at all if not for mailings that you have to "opt out" of. :coffee:

Re: Senate preserves unlimited credit card rates

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:45 pm
by UCABEAR
i paid my credit cards on time and even to a zero balance. My rate WAS 4.9% fixed, one that I could live with even with a small balance. They jacked it up to 16.99%..why I asked them. Their reply, " You've always paid on time, you now have a zero balance, but it's the economy. " So the economy is the reason they were allowed to jack it up? Sick. Paid everyone of them off and shut them all down. :evil:

On another note, my mortgage company is charging me PMI. Icalled them to get it stopped and they told me that I had to reach 78% of my Loan to Value before they could do that without an appraisal. I injected a couple of thousand dollars into my mortgage and brought it down to 77.4% and when I called to get the PMI cancelled..guess what? I still needed an appraisal! When I nicely reminded the customer service individual that according to the FTC that when a client reaches that magical number PMI isn't necessary any longer, she told me that my "date" to get it automatically dropped wasn't for another 3 years! So all that federal law and prepayments didn't count for anything. INTERESTING. I filed a complaint with the FTC.

Any ideas on how I can get this PMI dropped without an appraisal? Any financial people out there want to take a swing?