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The Spin Machine is running at top speed today, eh?

AZGrizFan wrote:The Spin Machine is running at top speed today, eh?

What am I spinning?

Or are YOU spinning because Obama is doing what you are crying for the Federal Government to do, and you can't handle it?

Non-criminal deportations are down. The graph says nothing of how many illegals are entering the country. Thank you, President Obama.

CitadelGrad wrote:Non-criminal deportations are down. Thank you, President Obama.

Wrong again - the numbers from 2008 to 2009 (Fiscal years), non-criminal deportations went up as well.

The 2009 numbers are not official. The 2010 numbers are goals.

CitadelGrad wrote:The 2009 numbers are not official. The 2010 numbers are goals.

Which is to increase overall deportations, concentrating first on criminals. Makes sense to me.

dbackjon wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:The Spin Machine is running at top speed today, eh?

What am I spinning?

Or are YOU spinning because Obama is doing what you are crying for the Federal Government to do, and you can't handle it?

CitadelGrad wrote:Non-criminal deportations are down. The graph says nothing of how many illegals are entering the country. Thank you, President Obama.

That's like celebrating that unemployment is now only 9.5%, Jon. Deportations are up because RECORD numbers of illegals are now in this country.

AZGrizFan wrote:

dbackjon wrote:
What am I spinning?

Or are YOU spinning because Obama is doing what you are crying for the Federal Government to do, and you can't handle it?

CitadelGrad wrote:Non-criminal deportations are down. The graph says nothing of how many illegals are entering the country. Thank you, President Obama.

That's like celebrating that unemployment is now only 9.5%, Jon. Deportations are up because RECORD numbers of illegals are now in this country.

But I thought the Federal Government was doing NOTHING about illegals??

dbackjon wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:

That's like celebrating that unemployment is now only 9.5%, Jon. Deportations are up because RECORD numbers of illegals are now in this country.

But I thought the Federal Government was doing NOTHING about illegals??

They've got their fingers in the dyke while water is pouring over the top Jon. Even YOU can see that, no?

Obama did manage to deport Specter into retirement yesterday!

There are two variables in the equation: entry and deportation. What good does it do to increase deportations by 50K or even 100K when little to nothing is being done to stop the millions from coming across the border illegally?

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...about 12-20 million short of the deportation requirement so far.

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Everyone but his Aunt.

CitadelGrad wrote:There are two variables in the equation: entry and deportation. What good does it do to increase deportations by 50K or even 100K when little to nothing is being done to stop the millions from coming across the border illegally?

What would you suggest we do to stop the millions coming across the border illegally?

Skjellyfetti wrote:

CitadelGrad wrote:There are two variables in the equation: entry and deportation. What good does it do to increase deportations by 50K or even 100K when little to nothing is being done to stop the millions from coming across the border illegally?

What would you suggest we do to stop the millions coming across the border illegally?

Shoot the illegals at the border with laser beams from satellites. What do you think, fucking idiot?

CitadelGrad wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:
What would you suggest we do to stop the millions coming across the border illegally?

Shoot the illegals at the border with laser beams from satellites. What do you think, **** idiot?

I don't know. That's why I asked, fucking idiot. You seemed to know how to realistically stop it. Maybe not?

Has anyone seen this vid?

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Really sad. This has gotta be one of the toughest issues out there, especially when it involves kids.

∞∞∞ wrote:Has anyone seen this vid?

...Really sad. This has gotta be one of the toughest issues out there, especially when it involves kids.

Yup. Saw it. Really sad.

The fault lies with the illegal alien parents, the illegal alien employers and a tragic misinterpretation of an amendment intended to protect freed slaves. PERIOD.

The answer is NOT to reward the illegal parents with CITIZENSHIP, but a comprehensive compromise solution to the ILLEGAL immigration problem which could include allowing permanent legal resident status with NO POSSIBILITY of citizenship to the illegal parents of American citizens, only AFTER the parents have followed all the steps that would otherwise be required for citizenship and only AFTER passing a Consitutional law to end the "anchor-baby" interpretation of the 14th Amendment.

If illegal aliens are rewarded with citizenship, legal citizens will have been forever disenfranchised by an illegal and immoral political ploy.

UNHWildCats wrote:

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Everyone but his Aunt.

That's the one issue I do not blame Obama for, wildcat. I do not want the relative of a sitting President of the United States to be deported to a foreign country, allowing the administration to be blackmailed or extorted by a foreign criminal or political entity.

Even though Obama himself is a dishonest dirtbag, national security is more important in this case.

dbackjon wrote:

CitadelGrad wrote:The 2009 numbers are not official. The 2010 numbers are goals.

Which is to increase overall deportations, concentrating first on criminals. Makes sense to me.

Concentrating first on criminals?
Excuse me, but everyone who came into this country illegally is a criminal.

native wrote:

∞∞∞ wrote:Has anyone seen this vid?

...Really sad. This has gotta be one of the toughest issues out there, especially when it involves kids.

Yup. Saw it. Really sad.

The fault lies with the illegal alien parents, the illegal alien employers and a tragic misinterpretation of an amendment intended to protect freed slaves. PERIOD.

The answer is NOT to reward the illegal parents with CITIZENSHIP, but a comprehensive compromise solution to the ILLEGAL immigration problem which could include allowing permanent legal resident status with NO POSSIBILITY of citizenship to the illegal parents of American citizens, only AFTER the parents have followed all the steps that would otherwise be required for citizenship and only AFTER passing a Consitutional law to end the "anchor-baby" interpretation of the 14th Amendment.

If illegal aliens are rewarded with citizenship, legal citizens will have been forever disenfranchised by an illegal and immoral political ploy.

There are simple and easy options:
1. Take the anchor baby with you on the way out.
2. Leave the anchor baby behind with legal friends or relatives.

The solution is to repeal the statute that allows the children of illegals full citizenship. That law was needed and just 140 years ago. It's time has run it's course.

native wrote:

UNHWildCats wrote: Everyone but his Aunt.

That's the one issue I do not blame Obama for, wildcat. I do not want the relative of a sitting President of the United States to be deported to a foreign country, allowing the administration to be blackmailed or extorted by a foreign criminal or political entity.

Even though Obama himself is a dishonest dirtbag, national security is more important in this case.

I dont think she should have been deported either but not for those reasons. I think it was a waste of time and money to even bother with the process for her, cause there was no way she was going to be deported.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

CitadelGrad wrote:There are two variables in the equation: entry and deportation. What good does it do to increase deportations by 50K or even 100K when little to nothing is being done to stop the millions from coming across the border illegally?

What would you suggest we do to stop the millions coming across the border illegally?

Treat them like Mexico treats their illegals. That would stop that shit right there.

SeattleGriz wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:
What would you suggest we do to stop the millions coming across the border illegally?

Treat them like Mexico treats their illegals. That would stop that shit right there.

Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

Did anyone hear the Mexican president being interviewed by Wolf Blitzer? Blitzer asked how Mexico treated illegals and he said they send them home. Not sure if the interview was before or after Calderon spoke to Congress and complained about how we are treating the poor illegals.