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White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:19 am
by JMU DJ
... About an administration job to keep him from running against the incumbent Obama supports:
Jim Messina, White House deputy chief of staff, talked about three jobs with former Colorado House Speaker Andrew Romanoff last year in an unsuccessful attempt to head off a primary challenge against incumbent Senator Michael Bennet, who Obama supports.
"Messina wanted to determine if it was possible to avoid a costly battle between two supporters," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said in a statement, although he and Romanoff said no concrete job offers were made.
It is the second time in less than a week the White House has acknowledged using a possible job to try to head off Democratic primary battles, a pattern that has drawn heavy Republican criticism.
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Romanoff, who earlier had applied for a position at the U.S. Agency for International Development, said Messina suggested three administration positions that might be available if he dropped his Senate race.
"He added that he could not guarantee my appointment to any of these positions. At no time was I promised a job, nor did I request Mr. Messina's assistance in obtaining one," Romanoff said in a statement.
Republicans said the intensive political wheeling and dealing by the Obama administration raised legal questions and cast doubt on his promises to practice a new kind of politics.
"It is clear that the Obama administration is not capable of living up to the same standards they campaigned on, and an independent investigation is necessary to learn all the facts," Republican Party chief Michael Steele said.
Republicans have charged the offer to Sestak, presented by former President Bill Clinton on the administration's behalf, violated federal laws prohibiting offering jobs to influence elections.
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Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:22 am
by 89Hen
the intensive political wheeling and dealing by the Obama administration raised legal questions and cast doubt on his promises to practice a new kind of politics.

The only thing I can't believe is that so many people fell for it.

Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:27 am
by GannonFan
89Hen wrote: the intensive political wheeling and dealing by the Obama administration raised legal questions and cast doubt on his promises to practice a new kind of politics.

The only thing I can't believe is that so many people fell for it.

I'll admit, I was hopeful that Obama could live up to what he campaigned on (and still, it's not like McCain was presenting a decent enough alternative to vote for - again, a case of picking the least objectionable of the two candidates offered). Unfortunately, it appears more and more each day that there has been no real shift in politics - it's still just politics as usual. Oh well, it was worth a shot.

Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:31 am
by andy7171
GannonFan wrote:89Hen wrote:

The only thing I can't believe is that so many people fell for it.

I'll admit, I was hopeful that Obama could live up to what he campaigned on (and still, it's not like McCain was presenting a decent enough alternative to vote for - again, a case of picking the least objectionable of the two candidates offered). Unfortunately, it appears more and more each day that there has been no real shift in politics - it's still just politics as usual. Oh well, it was worth a shot.

I think it was a shot worth taking. But I think deep down most of us with a brain knew nothing was going to CHANGE. Now it's time to throw them all out.

Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:33 am
by 89Hen
Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:37 am
by 89Hen
Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:39 am
by 89Hen
Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:44 am
by JMU DJ
Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:47 am
by 89Hen

That book and footnote didn't even last a year in to Obama's tenure. He has rewritten them all. Some change.
Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:48 am
by dbackjon
No, this shouldn't happen, and very disapointed if it is.
but, this is not an Obama invention....
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Ol Ronnie did it...as I am sure most every President has
Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:50 am
by 89Hen
dbackjon wrote:but, this is not an Obama invention....
Ol Ronnie did it...as I am sure most every President has
Oh, then this wasn't the change he was talking about.
- Not tampering with primaries
- Not over-spending
- Not ending the war and closing Gitmo
- Not ending earmarks
What exactly was the change he was talking about??
Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:11 am
by andy7171
dbackjon wrote:No, this shouldn't happen, and very disapointed if it is.
but, this is not an Obama invention....
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1 ... 60,5317656" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ol Ronnie did it...as I am sure most every President has
No doubt this is common place over the history of the country, but BO specifically said he wasn't going to follow in those footsteps... He said he was going to change it.
Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:13 am
by dbackjon
andy7171 wrote:dbackjon wrote:No, this shouldn't happen, and very disapointed if it is.
but, this is not an Obama invention....
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1 ... 60,5317656" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ol Ronnie did it...as I am sure most every President has
No doubt this is common place over the history of the country, but BO specifically said he wasn't going to follow in those footsteps... He said he was going to change it.
And that is one reason I am dissapointed in this. As well as the Republicans calling for impeachment hearings on this.
Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:21 am
by andy7171
dbackjon wrote:andy7171 wrote:
No doubt this is common place over the history of the country, but BO specifically said he wasn't going to follow in those footsteps... He said he was going to change it.
And that is one reason I am dissapointed in this. As well as the Republicans calling for impeachment hearings on this.
Agreed. I'm all for an anti incumbent Novemeber. This has turned into a bad joke.
Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:37 am
by 89Hen
dbackjon wrote:And that is one reason I am dissapointed in this. As well as the Republicans calling for impeachment hearings on this.
HEY! We never promised any change. We're keeping our end of the bargain.

Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:59 pm
by death dealer
Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:23 pm
by mainejeff
Will Republicans do this in the future?

Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:38 pm
by death dealer
mainejeff wrote:Will Republicans do this in the future?

You are one stupid cracker.

Of course they will, but I don't recall any of those assholes promising not to, or spouting about "change". That was the asshole currently sitting in the oval office.

Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:11 pm
by Skjellyfetti
death dealer wrote:
You are one stupid cracker.

Of course they will, but I don't recall any of those ******* promising not to, or spouting about "change". That was the ******* currently sitting in the oval office.

Short memory? Senility beginning to kick in? Self administering Novocaine?
Republicans came to power promising fiscal responsibility, government accountability, etc. etc.
How did that turn out?

Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:28 pm
by death dealer
Skjellyfetti wrote:death dealer wrote:
You are one stupid cracker.

Of course they will, but I don't recall any of those ******* promising not to, or spouting about "change". That was the ******* currently sitting in the oval office.

Short memory? Senility beginning to kick in? Self administering Novocaine?

Fuck you KY. If you'd take Howard Dean's cock out of your mouth for a half a second and pay attention, you'd see I'm not taking a side here. Your guts just so full of Donk jizz that you can't think straight. Different set of assholes, same old schtick brother. I was referring to current leadership. But, as I said, meet the new boss, same as the old boss. You can't realistically fit a dime between the difference.
You really are just the Donk version of Alphie aren't you?

Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:47 pm
by Skjellyfetti
death dealer wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:
Short memory? Senility beginning to kick in? Self administering Novocaine?

**** you KY. If you'd take Howard Dean's cock out of your mouth for a half a second and pay attention, you'd see I'm not taking a side here. Your guts just so full of Donk jizz that you can't think straight. Different set of *******, same old schtick brother. I was referring to current leadership. But, as I said, meet the new boss, same as the old boss. You can't realistically fit a dime between the difference.
You really are just the Donk version of Alphie aren't you?

You weren't referring solely to the current leadership. Mainejeff's comment was about REPUBLICANS. And you defended them saying... "I don't recall any of those ******* promising not to, or spouting about "change".
Clearly that wasn't the case.
Too much N2O exposure?
Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:11 pm
by mainejeff
death dealer wrote:mainejeff wrote:Will Republicans do this in the future?

You are one stupid cracker.
And you are a stupid dip.
Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:12 pm
by mainejeff
death dealer wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:
Short memory? Senility beginning to kick in? Self administering Novocaine?

**** you KY. If you'd take Howard Dean's cock out of your mouth for a half a second and pay attention, you'd see I'm not taking a side here. Your guts just so full of Donk jizz that you can't think straight. Different set of *******, same old schtick brother. I was referring to current leadership. But, as I said, meet the new boss, same as the old boss. You can't realistically fit a dime between the difference.
You really are just the Donk version of Alphie aren't you?

I'd say that you ARE Alphie with that manure that you just wrote.

Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:37 am
by Baldy
Skjellyfetti wrote:death dealer wrote:
You are one stupid cracker.

Of course they will, but I don't recall any of those ******* promising not to, or spouting about "change". That was the ******* currently sitting in the oval office.

Short memory? Senility beginning to kick in? Self administering Novocaine?
Republicans came to power promising fiscal responsibility, government accountability, etc. etc.
How did that turn out?

You aren't a very astute student of history, are you?
As history has proven, the Contract With America served it's purpose and delivered on most of it's promises. What happened to that particular set of Republican politicians is the same that happens with any set of politicians who fall into the "Culture of DC". Which in my opinion, is a good argument for term limits. Well intending people of both parties who truly want to become advocates for their constituents seem to get sucked into the 'me first' culture of Washington DC. It happened to the people who came in with the "Republican Revolution", and it has happened now with the current lot.

Re: White House Admits Talking With Another Senate Candidate
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:45 am
by 89Hen
Baldy wrote:You aren't a very astute student of history, are you?


Jelly was probably 7 then. Cut him some slack.