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From an article in the Houston Chronicle by Susan Carroll:

ICE and the private prison company Corrections Corporation of America have agreed to make more than 24 changes at nine facilities. The changes include:

• Relaxing security: Low-risk detainees will have “freedom of movement” in the facilities and will no longer be subject to lock downs or lights out.

• Access: Detainees will be able to have visitors stay as long as they like within a 12-hour window. The facilities will increase attorney visitation space, add un-monitored phone lines and give detainees email and free, Internet-based calling. A unit manager will be available to take complaints directly from detainees.

• Daily life: Detainees will be allowed to wear regular clothing, will have at least four hours of recreation daily, and will be offered cooking, art and dance classes.

Source: ICE e-mail dated May 27

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Stupid.

Why try to make jail into a Holiday Inn? I agree with food, water, a toilet, a bed, and because I'm such a nice guy, climate control and an hour to exercise for inmates. They do not deserve nor need anything more than that.

The relaxing of security is a death wish for the prison guards.

They aren't jails and they aren't for punishment.

They're for holding people whose legal status is in legal limbo or who are awaiting deportation.

Skjellyfetti wrote:They aren't jails and they aren't for punishment.

They're for holding people whose legal status is in legal limbo or who are awaiting deportation.

That's why I say give them basic necessities. When they get back to where they belong, they won't brag to other potential illegals about how nice the holding tank is when you get caught trying to weasel into our country. We don't need to encourage people to try to make it here illegally.

93henfan wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:They aren't jails and they aren't for punishment.

They're for holding people whose legal status is in legal limbo or who are awaiting deportation.

That's why I say give them basic necessities. When they get back to where they belong, they won't brag to other potential illegals about how nice the holding tank is when you get caught trying to weasel into our country. We don't need to encourage people to try to make it here illegally.

I agree with this in most cases. But, some of these people are in legal limbo... they may be US citizens or people here legally. Some are in cartels and deserve to be in prison-type settng. Some are children with no parents... and could be stuck in limbo for years. Look up Division of Unaccompanied Children Services for some truly heartbreaking stories.

These benefits in nativist's article are for "low risk detainees"... not for everyone. That's obviously vague... and I wouldn't mind hearing how that status is determined. But, I think most would fall toward the unaccompanied minor side of the spectrum and not the cartel side.

Sorry to sound so callous, Skjelly, but I've seen enough children of Americans orphaned with no financial support after their parents were wiped out by a drunken, uninsured illegal to really give a fuck about the kids of illegal aliens.

When there's doubt, tie does not go to the illegal alien in any case in my book. Err on the side of caution and get them the hell out of our country as fast as possible. They want what we have without playing by our rules. Fuck 'em.

Skjellyfetti wrote:I agree with this in most cases. But, some of these people are in legal limbo... they may be US citizens or people here legally...

...but a few innocent members of Barrio-Azteca gang (shown, bottom row, detained while in "legal limbo") who work the border...



...yet misfortunately seem to happenstance, with peculiar frequency, border crime...



...suffering upon them ill-contrived discomforts, of which they are unaccustomed...



...whilst in "legal limbo".

travelinman67 wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:I agree with this in most cases. But, some of these people are in legal limbo... they may be US citizens or people here legally...

...but a few innocent members of Barrio-Azteca gang (shown, bottom row, detained while in "legal limbo") who work the border...



...yet misfortunately seem to happenstance, with peculiar frequency, border crime...



...suffering upon them ill-contrived discomforts, of which they are unaccustomed...



...whilst in "legal limbo".

You think those guys... covered in tats advertising their membership in cartels are going to be labeled "low risk detainees".....??

No.

Fuck off.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

travelinman67 wrote:
...but a few innocent members of Barrio-Azteca gang (shown, bottom row, detained while in "legal limbo") who work the border...



...yet misfortunately seem to happenstance, with peculiar frequency, border crime...



...suffering upon them ill-contrived discomforts, of which they are unaccustomed...



...whilst in "legal limbo".

You think those guys... covered in tats advertising their membership in cartels are going to be labeled "low risk detainees".....??

No.

Fuck off.

Profiling people based upon their appearance??????

Shame on you, Jellydonut!!

Aren't those the guys from GoHens?

"Art classes, bingo and continental breakfasts"? GMAFB!

What's next? "Comfort ladies"?

Ivytalk wrote:"Art classes, bingo and continental breakfasts"? GMAFB!

What's next? "Comfort ladies"?

How in the hell are they going to play BINGO when they can't and don't speak english?????

However I do like the art classes portion of this... this can't do anything but help to beautify our railroad yards, highway overpasses, and abandoned buildings nationwide.

travelinman67 wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:
**** off.

Profiling people based upon their appearance??????

Shame on you, Jellydonut!!

He's not the donut - he's the hole (without the jelly).

blueballs wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:"Art classes, bingo and continental breakfasts"? GMAFB!

What's next? "Comfort ladies"?

However I do like the art classes portion of this... this can't do anything but help to beautify our railroad yards, highway overpasses, and abandoned buildings nationwide.

"Fore!"









...couldn't resist not finishing the sentence.

We had a hispanic Marine at Camp Pendleton who would design a t-shirt for the unit each year. They were fucking awesome. Those graffiti skills do have some practical applications.

Ivytalk wrote:"Art classes, bingo and continental breakfasts"? GMAFB!

What's next? "Comfort ladies"?

This is free market prison, bro. Gotta put the customers first if you wanna stay in bidniz.....